Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 04:18:38PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > - Third party modules for interpreters should be cross-buildable. > >Many build systems for interpreter languages are written in the > >interpreter language itself. So you do require the interpreter > >for the build, an

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Stéphane Glondu
Le 18/04/2013 12:07, Marc Haber a écrit : >> The tool you are looking for is "mk-build-deps" from the package >> "devscripts". > > So one uses mk-build-deps to create a .deb containing the build > dependencies as binary dependencites, put that .deb into an local > aptable archive, run apt-get upd

Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread James McCoy
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 04:18:20PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:41:35 +0200 > Matthias Klose wrote: > > > - running a gdb:amd64 on i386 to debug 64bit binaries. This is the > >reason for our current gdb64 package on i386, but it is missing the > >support for the p

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Joachim Breitner writes: > Hi, > > Am Dienstag, den 16.04.2013, 21:19 -0700 schrieb Nikolaus Rath: >> Has someone already written a tool to automate this? I.e., parse >> debian/control and run the appropriate apt-get command? > > The package haskell-debian-utils contains a program named > apt-get-

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Marc Haber writes: > On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:05:47 +0900, Charles Plessy > wrote: >>The tool you are looking for is "mk-build-deps" from the package "devscripts". > > So one uses mk-build-deps to create a .deb containing the build > dependencies as binary dependencites, put that .deb into an local

Work-needing packages report for Apr 19, 2013

2013-04-18 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 514 (new: 1) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 147 (new: 0) Total number of packages request

Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 18 April 2013 19:13, Sergei Golovan wrote: > Hi! > > On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Andrew Shadura wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> >> By the way, have you contacted Sergei on this? > > I saw the bugreports and I'm planning to start working on them after > wheezy release. > Yeah there is no rush r

Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! [ I had pending warning about this on debian-devel before the release, so this is a good way to do that. :) ] On Thu, 2013-04-18 at 16:41:35 +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > There are maybe not many use cases where you do want to install an interpreter > like python or perl for a foreign arch

Re: DEBIAN 0.93

2013-04-18 Thread Julián Moreno Patiño
Hi Gabriela, Some history in this link: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ch-releases.es.html And looking for the packages for that release: I can see the kernel version was 1.2.13 http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/debian/dists/Debian-0.93R6/binary/Packages In the secti

Re: DEBIAN 0.93

2013-04-18 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 09:20:33PM +, GABITA RODRIGUEZ DE MEDINA wrote: > Hi, sorry to bother you, but I'm doing research for operating systems in my > study center, the question is technical features that had debian 0.93, which > kernell used, which network protocols, file system, etc..Thank

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Dienstag, den 16.04.2013, 21:19 -0700 schrieb Nikolaus Rath: > Has someone already written a tool to automate this? I.e., parse > debian/control and run the appropriate apt-get command? The package haskell-debian-utils contains a program named apt-get-build-depends that does exactly that.

Re: Aptitude best to ignore a dependency

2013-04-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> your question is better suited for one of the various support > channels. Including but not limited to the > debian-u...@lists.debian.org mailinglists, which are even available > in different languages. > Some quick answers anyway: Thanks I changed it from the user list at the last minute as

DEBIAN 0.93

2013-04-18 Thread GABITA RODRIGUEZ DE MEDINA
Hi, sorry to bother you, but I'm doing research for operating systems in my study center, the question is technical features that had debian 0.93, which kernell used, which network protocols, file system, etc..Thank you for helping GABRIELA RODRIGUEZMONTEVIDEO URUGUAY

Re: Aptitude best to ignore a dependency

2013-04-18 Thread David Kalnischkies
Hi Kevin, your question is better suited for one of the various support channels. Including but not limited to the debian-u...@lists.debian.org mailinglists, which are even available in different languages. Some quick answers anyway: On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > Doe

Re: Plat'Home OpenBlocks discounted for Debian member and FLOSS Developer

2013-04-18 Thread Nobuhiro Iwamatsu
Hi, Thank you for your comment. 2013/4/17 Lennart Sorensen : > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 08:53:24AM +0900, Nobuhiro Iwamatsu wrote: >> Plat'Home is one of the Debconf 13 sponsor will sell at discount to >> Debian member and FLOSS Developer for the OpenBlocks of small ARM micro >> server. >> >> h

Aptitude best to ignore a dependency

2013-04-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
http://superuser.com/questions/95509/tell-aptitude-to-ignore-broken-package Does this work and is aptitude the best way to update whilst ignoring incorrect or even debatable dependencies or can apt-get do so too. Is equiv a fast and easy solution? Currently I am getting fix broken on steam-laun

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Neil Williams > The code to do this exists, it up to you to use it instead of whinging > about the Social Contract, *again*. (Always the last resort of those > who only want to complain without actually writing some code.) That's not a particularly useful comment in this context as the bug in

Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread Russ Allbery
Matthias Klose writes: > There are maybe not many use cases where you do want to install an > interpreter like python or perl for a foreign architecture, but there > are some use case where such a setup makes sense. One additional use case: I want to be able to do this in order to cross-grade (t

Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 06:15:26PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes"): > > Co-installability of interpreters is generally not planed and would > > have to be made as custom solutions, i.e. place the interpreter in > > /usr/lib/x86_64-

Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread Andrew Shadura
Hello, On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 22:13:04 +0400 Sergei Golovan wrote: > > To Sergei (added to Cc): I'd like to join the effort in packaging > > Tcl/Tk and stuff, as I said before; but as you've been the most > > active person on the team for quite some time I'm a bit hesitant > > about interrupting th

Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread Sergei Golovan
Hi! On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:56 PM, Andrew Shadura wrote: > > Hello, > > > By the way, have you contacted Sergei on this? I saw the bugreports and I'm planning to start working on them after wheezy release. > > > Personally, I'm not yet convinced about this interpreter > > multiarchification,

Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread Andrew Shadura
Hello, On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:07:44 +0100 Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > > On 18 April 2013 16:41, Matthias Klose wrote: > >> - Tcl/Tk: Wookey and Dimitrij did start on that in Ubuntu, patches > >>are available in Debian bug reports. > >>Currently the shared libraries are split out into sep

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Hi, 2013-04-16 21:19, Nikolaus Rath: > Has someone already written a tool to automate this? I.e., parse > debian/control and run the appropriate apt-get command? If you not fear using a different package manager, try this: http://people.debian.org/~jackyf/cupt-satisfy-control-deps (parser sucks,

Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread Ian Jackson
Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes"): > Co-installability of interpreters is generally not planed and would > have to be made as custom solutions, i.e. place the interpreter in > /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/ and provide /usr/bin/perl as > alternative. I think

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 18:42:10 +0200 Marc Haber wrote: > And because we want to do a really really good solution, a ten year > old wishlist bug which has a patch in the BTS for three years remains > unsolved? It's wishlist - I dread to think how many higher severity bugs have been opened and clos

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 12:27:15 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: >Or just pass -i to mk-build-deps, which does all the steps for you. Missed that. Sorry. Thanks. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy copies, please !! - Marc Haber | " Questions are the

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 12:32:50 +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: >* Lars Wirzenius , 2013-04-18, 11:19: >>ideally, dpkg-checkbuilddeps could have an output mode that just lists >>the package names and could be fed to apt-get install: >> >>apt-get install $(dpkg-checkbuilddeps --package-names-only) > >#2

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Marc Haber
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 18:13:08 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: >On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:05:47 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: >>>The tool you are looking for is "mk-build-deps" from the package >>>"devscripts". >> >> So one uses mk-build-deps to create a .d

Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 18 avril 2013 à 16:41 +0200, Matthias Klose a écrit : > - Python: co-installable runtime and development files, cross-buildability >upstreamed for 2.7.4 and 3.3.1. There is a way to cross-build third >party modules using distutils/setuptools. Packages are available in >experim

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Marc Haber wrote: > On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:05:47 +0900, Charles Plessy > wrote: >>The tool you are looking for is "mk-build-deps" from the package "devscripts". > > So one uses mk-build-deps to create a .deb containing the build > dependencies as binary dependenc

Bug#705691: ITP: defusedxml -- XML bomb protection for Python stdlib modules

2013-04-18 Thread Luke Faraone
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Luke Faraone * Package name: defusedxml Version : 0.4.1 Upstream Author : Christian Heimes * URL : https://pypi.python.org/pypi/defusedxml * License : Python Programming Lang: Python Description : XML bomb protec

Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:41:35 +0200 Matthias Klose wrote: > - running a gdb:amd64 on i386 to debug 64bit binaries. This is the >reason for our current gdb64 package on i386, but it is missing the >support for the python based pretty printer. >Installing gdb:amd64 on i386 in wheezy wil

Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 16:41:35 +0200 Matthias Klose wrote: > - running a gdb:amd64 on i386 to debug 64bit binaries. This is the >reason for our current gdb64 package on i386, but it is missing the >support for the python based pretty printer. >Installing gdb:amd64 on i386 in wheezy wil

Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 18 April 2013 15:55, Andrew Shadura wrote: > Hello, > > On 18 April 2013 16:41, Matthias Klose wrote: >> - Tcl/Tk: Wookey and Dimitrij did start on that in Ubuntu, patches >>are available in Debian bug reports. >>Currently the shared libraries are split out into separate packages, >>

Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 04:41:35PM +0200, Matthias Klose wrote: > There are maybe not many use cases where you do want to install an interpreter > like python or perl for a foreign architecture, but there are some use case > where such a setup makes sense. For now I see this limited for architectu

Re: multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread Andrew Shadura
Hello, On 18 April 2013 16:41, Matthias Klose wrote: > - Tcl/Tk: Wookey and Dimitrij did start on that in Ubuntu, patches >are available in Debian bug reports. >Currently the shared libraries are split out into separate packages, >and are co-installable. Not yet tested if this enough

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 09:19:27PM -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote: > Hello, > > When downloading a source package from somewhere else, I often find > myself in the situation that after.. If by downloading you mean "apt-get source foo" then the answere is: apt-get build-dep foo Otherwise there is

Re: epoch in filenames for packages (was: Re: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R)

2013-04-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 11:04:11AM +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > On 04/18/2013 10:48, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 09:29:19PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > >> On 04/02/2013 09:18 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >>> Actually that hits another problem. Namely that the

multiarch and interpreters/runtimes

2013-04-18 Thread Matthias Klose
There are maybe not many use cases where you do want to install an interpreter like python or perl for a foreign architecture, but there are some use case where such a setup makes sense. For now I see this limited for architecture pairs like amd64/i386, armel/armhf, ia64/i386, i.e. for architectur

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 04:13:32PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Lars Wirzenius > > > - if it's a lot of packages, I construct a complicated sed > > and awk and so on pipeline to extract the package names > > and feed those to apt-get install > > Aka /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuild

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Lars Wirzenius > - if it's a lot of packages, I construct a complicated sed > and awk and so on pipeline to extract the package names > and feed those to apt-get install Aka /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-satisfydepends ? -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky

Re: Add multiarch library paths to DEFAULT_LIBRARY_PATH in Dpkg::Shlibs?

2013-04-18 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 16.04.2013 15:19, schrieb Wookey: > +++ Игорь Пашев [2013-04-16 16:49 +0400]: >> 2013/4/16 Neil Williams : >>> On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 16:11:24 +0400 >>> >> >> >> So, is it important, that multiarch dirs go after crossdirs: >> our @librarypaths = (DEFAULT_LIBRARY_PATH, @crosslibrarypaths); >> ? > >

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Christoph Egger
Hi! Marc Haber writes: > On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:05:47 +0900, Charles Plessy > wrote: >>The tool you are looking for is "mk-build-deps" from the package "devscripts". > > So one uses mk-build-deps to create a .deb containing the build > dependencies as binary dependencites, put that .deb into an

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Lars Wirzenius , 2013-04-18, 11:19: ideally, dpkg-checkbuilddeps could have an output mode that just lists the package names and could be fed to apt-get install: apt-get install $(dpkg-checkbuilddeps --package-names-only) #214566 -- Jakub Wilk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Marc Haber , 2013-04-18, 12:07: The tool you are looking for is "mk-build-deps" from the package "devscripts". So one uses mk-build-deps to create a .deb containing the build dependencies as binary dependencites, put that .deb into an local aptable archive, run apt-get update and apt-get inst

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 18 Apr 2013 12:07:25 +0200 Marc Haber wrote: > On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:05:47 +0900, Charles Plessy > wrote: > >The tool you are looking for is "mk-build-deps" from the package > >"devscripts". > > So one uses mk-build-deps to create a .deb containing the build > dependencies as binary d

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 12:07:25PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:05:47 +0900, Charles Plessy > wrote: > >The tool you are looking for is "mk-build-deps" from the package > >"devscripts". > > So one uses mk-build-deps to create a .deb containing the build > dependencies as bin

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM, Marc Haber wrote: > On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:05:47 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: >>The tool you are looking for is "mk-build-deps" from the package "devscripts". > > So one uses mk-build-deps to create a .deb containing the build > dependencies as binary dependencites,

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 09:45:32 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: >On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 09:19:27PM -0700, Nikolaus Rath wrote: >> Has someone already written a tool to automate this? I.e., parse >> debian/control and run the appropriate apt-get command? >> >> I think I am *not* looking for apt-get build-

Re: Automatically satisfying Build-Depends from local control file

2013-04-18 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 14:05:47 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: >The tool you are looking for is "mk-build-deps" from the package "devscripts". So one uses mk-build-deps to create a .deb containing the build dependencies as binary dependencites, put that .deb into an local aptable archive, run apt-get

epoch in filenames for packages (was: Re: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R)

2013-04-18 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
On 04/18/2013 10:48, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 09:29:19PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 04/02/2013 09:18 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >>> Actually that hits another problem. Namely that the epoch does not >>> appear in the binary package filename. While wheezy wo

Re: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R

2013-04-18 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2013-04-18 10:48 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 09:29:19PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 04/02/2013 09:18 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> > Actually that hits another problem. Namely that the epoch does not >> > appear in the binary package filename. While

Re: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R

2013-04-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 02:28:23PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Niko Tyni writes: > > > FWIW, I've done ABI-incompatible uploads of perl to experimental in the > > past without changing the perlapi-* virtual package name or the libperl > > SONAME. The aim was to experiment with different configu

Re: R 3.0.0 and required rebuilds of all reverse Depends: of R

2013-04-18 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
On Sun, Apr 07, 2013 at 09:29:19PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 04/02/2013 09:18 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > Actually that hits another problem. Namely that the epoch does not > > appear in the binary package filename. While wheezy would have 1.2.3-1 > > and unstable would have 1:1.2.3

Bug#705452: docbook-xml: Fail to upgrade due to pre-depend problem

2013-04-18 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 02:58:21PM +1000, Stuart Prescott wrote: > Helmut Grohne wrote: > > The conclusion here is that the only way to fix this bug in sgml-base is > > to have *no* dependency on dpkg at all. > > Actually, removing the dependency on dpkg doesn't change the outcome at all > -- >