Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-17 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Wed, 16 Jan 2013, Colin Watson wrote: > This is cleaner than any of the other options I've come up with: it > doesn't require hardcoding a list of "toolchain packages" that have > special cross versions; it would allow us to stop having to shove > pkg-config-HOST into cross-build chroots; a

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:17:07PM +, Neil Williams wrote: > On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:51:32 +0100 > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 09:34:16AM +0100, Johannes Schauer wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 08:33:57AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > > If w

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 11:34:55PM +0100, Johannes Schauer wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 09:51:32PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > I'm not sure if wanna-build is the right tool to do this > > > > Why not? > > > > It already needs to do build-dependency tracking, marking packages

Re: how to handle architecture dependent headers in subdirectories

2013-01-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 03:28:53PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Matthias Klose writes: > > There are some issues when you do have an architecture dependent header > > file which needs to be in the multiarch specific include directory. If > > the header file is directly located in /usr/include, t

Work-needing packages report for Jan 18, 2013

2013-01-17 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 521 (new: 4) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 142 (new: 0) Total number of packages request

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-17 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 17 Jan 2013 21:51:32 +0100 Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 09:34:16AM +0100, Johannes Schauer wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 08:33:57AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > If wanna-build is updated to support these two fields, then I imagine > > > it can

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-17 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 09:51:32PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > I'm not sure if wanna-build is the right tool to do this > > Why not? > > It already needs to do build-dependency tracking, marking packages as > "can't be built yet because build-depends aren't there yet" all the > time. T

Re: new team: pkg-auth on alioth

2013-01-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 17/01/13 15:08, Olivier Berger wrote: > Hi. > > Daniel Pocock writes: > >> Simon and I both have some security/authentication packages in Debian. >> I've proposed a group on alioth, pkg-auth, which would be an umbrella >> for packages like this and potentially others >> >> The team approac

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 09:34:16AM +0100, Johannes Schauer wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 08:33:57AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > If wanna-build is updated to support these two fields, then I imagine > > it can run the bootstrapping dependency algorithm. While you wouldn't > > want

DNSSEC in wheezy

2013-01-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
For some (probably many) people, an upgrade from squeeze (or earlier) to wheezy may be their first real experience of DNSSEC I've tried to update the wiki page to help people who are completely new to the subject. However, I'm sure there are people who may be able to provide more specific comm

Bug#698384: ITP: libmindstorms -- A C++ library to control a Lego Mindstorms brick

2013-01-17 Thread Nicolas Guilbert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Nicolas Guilbert * Package name: libmindstorms Version : 0.0.1 Upstream Author : Nicolas Guilbert * URL : https://gitorious.org/mindstorms/libmindstorms * License : LGPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : A C++

Bug#698378: RFH: libvorbisidec

2013-01-17 Thread Daniel Kahn Gillmor
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I'm low on time to work on libvorbisidec (tremor) and would love some assistance. In particular, the following things would be helpful: * tracking upstream -- they make no explicit releases, and their mailing list is mostly silent. as you can see from the fact

Re: how to handle architecture dependent headers in subdirectories

2013-01-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 08:51:34AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > Would it be possible to use something similar to the bits/ dir in > eglibc? Or would your proposal replace that? > > /usr/include/python2.7/bits -> /usr/include/x86_64-linux-gnu/python2.7/bits Not "Multi-Arch: same" safe. (Note how /us

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 10:35:03AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 05:26:52PM +0100, Johannes Schauer a écrit : > > Whether or not "nocheck" and "nodocs" can/should become build profiles > > is of course still to be debated. > for the packages I maintain, I am now replacing

Re: how to handle architecture dependent headers in subdirectories

2013-01-17 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 01:21:41PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 12:06 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > > Adam Borowski angband.pl> writes: > > > > > #define DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH "x86_64-linux-gnu" > > > > And then #include "<" DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH "/foo/bar.h" or what? > > Is t

Bug#698354: ITP: python-voluptuous -- Voluptuous, a python data validation library

2013-01-17 Thread Antoine Musso
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Antoine Musso * Package name: python-voluptuous Version : 0.6 Upstream Author : Alec Thomas * URL : http://pypi.python.org/pypi/voluptuous * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : Voluptuous, a pyth

Re: new team: pkg-auth on alioth

2013-01-17 Thread Olivier Berger
Hi. Daniel Pocock writes: > Simon and I both have some security/authentication packages in Debian. > I've proposed a group on alioth, pkg-auth, which would be an umbrella > for packages like this and potentially others > > The team approach that Debian has been introducing brings a step change

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-17 Thread Wookey
+++ Wouter Verhelst [2013-01-17 08:33 +0100]: > However, to do that, there's one thing I'm missing in your mail: there > will be cases where packages, when built in a particular profile do not > support some functionality. That is, the package is available and does > most of what the full package

Re: how to handle architecture dependent headers in subdirectories

2013-01-17 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2013-01-17 at 12:06 +, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Adam Borowski angband.pl> writes: > > > This looks just like the solution ultimately chosen for #682183, except for > > the include being monstrous. Let's instead add a file to libc6-dev with > > the following: > > > > #define DEB_HOST

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-17 Thread Simon McVittie
On 17/01/13 01:35, Charles Plessy wrote: > for the packages I maintain, I am now replacing the regression tests that > were ran during the build process by autopkgtest test suites. ... > If this eventually becomes the norm, then we will not need "nocheck" build > option or profile anymore. Not nec

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-17 Thread Simon McVittie
On 17/01/13 03:18, Wookey wrote: > +++ Matthias Klose [2013-01-16 21:09 +0100]: >> Even if there are a few more, I like it better to make the profiles more >> granular, and then letting the people doing a bootstrap decide what to >> include >> in a stage1 or stage2 build. > > I can see some logic

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-17 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Johannes Schauer email.de> writes: > Your first example indeed demonstrates why multiple profiles are useful > to be enabled at once. Right, wasn’t that the assumption? Profiles are like a bitmask, or checkboxen. Default is: all are disabled. > Build-Depends: foo , bar This is better. No ma

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-17 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Colin Watson debian.org> writes: > Also potentially x32. Which is already on debian-ports, though with no packages at the moment: http://buildd.debian-ports.org/stats/ Another thing would be a Coldfire port (which Wouter might eventually start off the m68k port, but we’re concentrating on that

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-17 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Neil Williams debian.org> writes: > I'm not sure if we are going to find this situation: > > Source: foo > Build-Depends: bar , baz <+embedded> (No + there.) I for one am waiting for this to be accepted for official archive packages, because I want to use Build-Depends: …, dietlibc-dev , … f

Re: how to handle architecture dependent headers in subdirectories

2013-01-17 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Adam Borowski angband.pl> writes: > This looks just like the solution ultimately chosen for #682183, except for > the include being monstrous. Let's instead add a file to libc6-dev with > the following: > > #define DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH "x86_64-linux-gnu" And then #include "<" DEB_HOST_MULTIARCH

Re: Pure-mulitarch Cross Toolchains

2013-01-17 Thread Thibaut Girka
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 04:30:06PM +, Wookey wrote: [snip] > It was done in Thibg's GSOC project for 4.7.2-4. Yes it needs more > work to properly integrate, test, and make bootstrappable, but we have a > working implementation (modulo keeping up with your amazing rate of > new uploads :-). (F

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-17 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Charles Plessy , 2013-01-17, 10:35: for the packages I maintain, I am now replacing the regression tests that were ran during the build process by autopkgtest test suites. http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep8/ (see http://developer.ubuntu.com/packaging/html/auto-pkg-test.html while Alio

Re: Bug#698329: ITP: sos -- This set of tools is designed to provide information to support organizations

2013-01-17 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Adam, thanks for your ITP. I'd (strongly) recommend using a less generic name. Why not sticking to the upstream choice "sosreport"? BTW, after reading the description twice I totally fail to tell what this package might really do. After reading the very short description on the github page

Re: Wheezy testing versus Wheezy release repositories: confused on how to get source code

2013-01-17 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 16 ian 13, 16:01:00, Paul Johnson wrote: > I installed Wheezy beta 4 from CD and was surprised that compiz window > manager was removed. Compiz is the best thing about Linux, that's a > shame. I tracked down some explanations, don't want to start a flame > war about that decision. > > But,

Re: Bootstrappable Debian - proposal of needed changes

2013-01-17 Thread Johannes Schauer
Hi, On Thu, Jan 17, 2013 at 08:33:57AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > If wanna-build is updated to support these two fields, then I imagine > it can run the bootstrapping dependency algorithm. While you wouldn't > want to upload a package to the debian.org archive when the > architecture is as ye