Re: GFDL in main

2012-12-01 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 02/12/2012 05:16, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > On 1 December 2012 15:42, Jean-Christophe Dubacq > wrote: >> On 01/12/2012 12:10, Jakub Wilk wrote: >>> These packages include documentation licensed under GFDL with Invariant >>> Sections or Cover Texts: >>> >>> bash >>> binutils >>> tar >>> >>> As p

Re: GFDL in main

2012-12-01 Thread Matthias Klose
Am 01.12.2012 13:20, schrieb Jakub Wilk: > * Jakub Wilk , 2012-12-01, 12:10: >> These packages include documentation licensed under GFDL with Invariant >> Sections or Cover Texts: > > To clarify: this is a list of _source_ packages. your level of detail is appreciated. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email

Re: GFDL in main

2012-12-01 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 1 December 2012 15:42, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote: > On 01/12/2012 12:10, Jakub Wilk wrote: >> These packages include documentation licensed under GFDL with Invariant >> Sections or Cover Texts: >> >> bash >> binutils >> tar >> >> As per GR 2006-001 such works are not suitable for main: >> ht

Re: Really, ...

2012-12-01 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 10:39:35PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > More over, most of the sleep calls you will find in init scripts (and I > believe that is what your grep shows, because that's the case on my own > laptop...) are because of: > case "${1}" in > restart|reload|force-reload) >

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

2012-12-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 03:40:41PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > the discussion that systemd is a bad design because it uses the same > configuration file syntax as Windows ini files or XDG .desktop files, > adding the statement that these are too difficult to parse. If you are referin

Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains

2012-12-01 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 25 Nov 2012 13:06:23 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: >And this is not a systemd >issue, even git uses that crap instead of something better like xml, >or simpler, like the hierarchical format used by apt that resembles >C++ classes. Are there ready-made perl, python or ruby modu

Bug#694881: ITP: gcc-python-plugin -- plugin to run Python from inside gcc

2012-12-01 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Paul Tagliamonte * Package name: gcc-python-plugin Version : 0.11 Upstream Author : "David Malcolm" * URL : https://fedorahosted.org/gcc-python-plugin/ * License : GPLv3 (or later) Programming Lang: C, Python Descrip

Re: GFDL in main

2012-12-01 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
On 01/12/2012 12:10, Jakub Wilk wrote: > These packages include documentation licensed under GFDL with Invariant > Sections or Cover Texts: > > bash > binutils > tar > > As per GR 2006-001 such works are not suitable for main: > http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_001 > > Any volunteers to file

Re: Contributor agreements and copyright assignment (was Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems)

2012-12-01 Thread Clint Byrum
On Dec 1, 2012, at 0:45, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 09:14:20AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >> Are you equating the FSF and the PSF with a private, for-profit company >> here? That seems to be stretching it a bit. > > Not really, IMO. > > Personally, I'm not comfortable

Re: GFDL in main

2012-12-01 Thread Simon Paillard
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 12:10:05PM +0100, Jakub Wilk wrote: > These packages include documentation licensed under GFDL with > Invariant Sections or Cover Texts: [..] > As per GR 2006-001 such works are not suitable for main: > http://www.debian.org/vote/2006/vote_001 Would you mind sharing the scr

Re: Really, ...

2012-12-01 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 11/30/2012 08:34 AM, Steve Langasek wrote: > Why are those sleeps there? Because the use of init scripts ensures that > we're always racing the kernel, instead of being able to respond directly to > events when they happen. Nearly every one of those sleeps represents *two* > bugs: the bug the

Re: Really, ...

2012-12-01 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 03:17:03PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Please stop fueling these threads already (especially when the subject > is not meaningful at all). Hey, didn't I say several times already that I would like to leave it? Please don't address me, I have been tired of this for se

Re: Really, ...

2012-12-01 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 10:12:15PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 12/01/2012 05:34 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > systemd is not Lennart, he is one of the many contributors. > This statement is simply false. Thomas, John Paul Adrian, seriously, we have had enough of these debates on -

Re: Really, ...

2012-12-01 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 10:12:15PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 12/01/2012 05:34 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > > systemd is not Lennart, he is one of the many contributors. > > This statement is simply false. > > I just checked with "git blame". Out of 381 473 lines of code in > the

Re: Really, ...

2012-12-01 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 12/01/2012 05:34 PM, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > systemd is not Lennart, he is one of the many contributors. This statement is simply false. I just checked with "git blame". Out of 381 473 lines of code in the Git, git blame reports 152 787 lines with "Poettering" in it. That's more tha

Re: Really, about udev, not init systems

2012-12-01 Thread Michael Biebl
On 01.12.2012 06:18, Michael Biebl wrote: > For b/ there is already a bug report for initramfs-tools [1]. It's > probably too late to get that into wheezy. But we should follow up there > to get that into wheezy. ^ jessie, of course. -- Why is it that all o

Re: GFDL in main

2012-12-01 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Jakub Wilk , 2012-12-01, 12:10: These packages include documentation licensed under GFDL with Invariant Sections or Cover Texts: To clarify: this is a list of _source_ packages. -- Jakub Wilk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: Really, ...

2012-12-01 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 30 nov 12, 18:03:41, Harald Jenny wrote: > > Yes a dedicated list (maybe just a temporary one) especially meant for > the early adopter/tester of systemd/upstart/OpenRC, preferrable people > who are DDs/DMs themselves and can describe/triage problems properly... I don't think this would be

GFDL in main

2012-12-01 Thread Jakub Wilk
These packages include documentation licensed under GFDL with Invariant Sections or Cover Texts: adplug autoconf2.59 bash binutils cflow cgdb chromium-browser cpio ecl gcc-4.7 gcc-h8300-hms gcc-snapshot gcj-4.7 gcl gdb gengetopt gforth gmerlin groff gsl gtypist kbuild kdesdk libbinio mathgl muse

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

2012-12-01 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 01 décembre 2012 à 09:52 +0100, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 03:58:05PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Le jeudi 29 novembre 2012 à 15:24 +0100, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : > > > Now if someone wants to fork the particular bits of upstream software so > > > makin

Re: Really, ...

2012-12-01 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 09:31:37AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 01:00:01AM +0200, Uoti Urpala wrote: > > Systemd does much better than its competitors as a social activity. > > ROTFL. > > I don't have much to say about the quality of Lennert's code, but his > social ski

Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains

2012-12-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 02:18:04AM +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2012-11-29 08:37:19 -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > And interfaces in various programming languages? > > > > http://search.cpan.org/~shlomif/Config-IniFiles-2.78/lib

Re: Contributor agreements and copyright assignment

2012-12-01 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Wouter Verhelst [...] > Personally, I'm not comfortable signing off my copyright to the FSF, for > the very same reason I'm not comfortable signing off copyright to > Canonical: while both are led by a person whom so far hasn't show much > reason for me to distrust them, it is also true that

Re: Canonical pushes upstart into user session - systemd developer complains

2012-12-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 08:37:19AM -0800, Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 7:23 AM, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > > > > And interfaces in various programming languages? > > http://docs.python.org/2/library/configparser.html > http://search.cpan.org/~shlomif/Config-IniFiles-2.78/lib/Confi

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

2012-12-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 08:51:47PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote: > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 03:28:40PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/homepage.jsp?code=PC68KCF > > > > the most recent processor you can find there was released in January > > 2012

Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems

2012-12-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 03:58:05PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 29 novembre 2012 à 15:24 +0100, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : > > Now if someone wants to fork the particular bits of upstream software so > > making use of a separate /usr is still possible, even if you think it's > > totall

Re: Contributor agreements and copyright assignment (was Re: Really, about udev, not init sytsems)

2012-12-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 09:14:20AM +0100, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > Are you equating the FSF and the PSF with a private, for-profit company > here? That seems to be stretching it a bit. Not really, IMO. Personally, I'm not comfortable signing off my copyright to the FSF, for the very same reason

Re: Really, ...

2012-12-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 01:00:01AM +0200, Uoti Urpala wrote: > Systemd does much better than its competitors as a social activity. ROTFL. I don't have much to say about the quality of Lennert's code, but his social skills are sorely lacking. -- Copyshops should do vouchers. So that next time so