Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-24 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 06:00:21PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > Yes, as the new wording is logically inconsistent. *By definition* a Debian > Project Member, as the term is being used here, is someone who has voting > rights. The term "Debian Developer" was being used to distinguish between > p

Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Stephen Gran
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 04:35:10PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero said: On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 04:38:21PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero said: On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 04:42:06PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero said: On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 04:49:07PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero said: On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 04:52:51PM -040

Re: Bug#682706: ITP: crtools -- tools for freezing/checkpointing/restoring a running application

2012-07-24 Thread Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez
On 25/07/12 04:19, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > > On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Artem Leshchev wrote: >> * Package name: crtools >> >...< >> Checkpoint/Restore In Userspace, or CRIU, is a tool, that can freeze a >> running >> application (or part of it) and checkpoint it to a hard drive as a collecti

Re: Re: Re: Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Filipus Klutiero (chea...@gmail.com): > >The purpose of debian-devel-announce is for communicating announcements *to > >people involved with the development of Debian*. > > > >You are not a Debian developer. > > I am. Philippe, if you want to prove you're a DD, then sign you mails, pleas

Re: Bug#682706: ITP: crtools -- tools for freezing/checkpointing/restoring a running application

2012-07-24 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Tue, 2012-07-24 at 22:19 -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Artem Leshchev wrote: > > * Package name: crtools > > >...< > > Checkpoint/Restore In Userspace, or CRIU, is a tool, that can freeze a > > running > > application (or part of it) and checkpoint it to a hard d

Re: Bug#682706: ITP: crtools -- tools for freezing/checkpointing/restoring a running application

2012-07-24 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012, Artem Leshchev wrote: > * Package name: crtools > >...< > Checkpoint/Restore In Userspace, or CRIU, is a tool, that can freeze a running > application (or part of it) and checkpoint it to a hard drive as a collection > of files. You can then use the files to restore and

Re: Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-24 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 09:43:05AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 02:23:50AM +0200, Ulrich Dangel a écrit : > > >From http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper: > > A Debian developer (DD) is a Debian Project Member who has uploading rights. > this page (and probably others)

Modified http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper to mention non-packagers (Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict)

2012-07-24 Thread Charles Plessy
Thread broken as topic changes. In-Reply-To: <500f3c96.90...@spamt.net> Le Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 02:23:50AM +0200, Ulrich Dangel a écrit : > > >From http://wiki.debian.org/DebianDeveloper: > A Debian developer (DD) is a Debian Project Member who has uploading rights. Hi Ulrich, this page (and pr

Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Ulrich Dangel
On 07/25/12 02:15, Filipus Klutiero wrote: >> You don't seem to be in LDAP, nor in the keyring, so no, you're not, >> unless you're posting under some alias or similar. > > I am posting under an alias, but in any case, Debian's LDAP and keyring only > contain a fraction of developers. This is tr

Re: Re: Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Hi Philipp, Philipp Kern wrote: On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:31:43PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > Please try using complete sentences. While you're at it, > constructive messages would be more productive than name-calling. If you think that your messages are constructive, well, you're wrong.

Re: Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Filipus Klutiero > > You are not a Debian developer. > > I am. You don't seem to be in LDAP, nor in the keyring, so no, you're not, unless you're posting under some alias or similar. I am posting under an alias, but in any case, Debian's LDAP and keyring only con

Re: Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Hi Russ, Russ Allbery wrote: Filipus Klutiero writes: > The "second highest decision-making body" in question is also our lowest > conflict resolution body. I for one am not interested in reading the > outcome of each small claims case. You have been heard. I've read all of your messages

Re: Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Scott Kitterman wrote: On Monday, July 23, 2012 11:00:37 PM Filipus Klutiero wrote: > Which kind of idiotic distraction? The one where you continue this pointless thread. I don't think this thread is pointless; it is simply too noisy. If it isn't clear to you already let me try one more

Bug#682706: ITP: crtools -- tools for freezing/checkpointing/restoring a running application

2012-07-24 Thread Artem Leshchev
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Artem Leshchev * Package name: crtools Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : OpenVZ Team * URL : http://criu.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C, Assembler Description : tools for freezing/checkpointing/restoring

Re: solving the network-manager-in-gnome problem

2012-07-24 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-07-24 12:26:33 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > If the package description had said that, it would have been > > less confusing. It's strange for a package description to focus > > on non-native features! > > I don't know what you mean by non-native features. Support for SysV > init scri

Bug#682692: ITP: tcl-fitstcl -- Tcl interface to FITS Files

2012-07-24 Thread Ole Streicher
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ole Streicher X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-scie...@lists.debian.org * Package name: tcl-fitstcl Version : 2.3 Upstream Author : Have to ask - probably William Pence, Pan Chai * URL : http://heasarc.gsfc.nas

Processed: Re: /usr/include/features.h referes to bits/predefs.h, but no "bits" link or dir in /usr/include

2012-07-24 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > forcemerge 637232 682678 Bug #637232 [general] general: Multiarch breaks support for non-multiarch toolchain Bug #639214 [general] eglibc: changes to paths concerning crt1.o, crti.o and crtn.o breaks building LLVM Trunk Bug #644986 [general] i38

Processed (with 1 errors): Re: /usr/include/features.h referes to bits/predefs.h, but no "bits" link or dir in /usr/include

2012-07-24 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > # affects many libraries, not just libc > reassign 682678 general Bug #682678 [libc6-dev] /usr/include/features.h referes to bits/predefs.h, but no "bits" link or dir in /usr/include Bug reassigned from package 'libc6-dev' to 'general'. No longer

Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-24 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Sorry for replying to myself, but here are some updates: > > > that it might add difficulties in the future if we don't use the same > > names for > > the same thing will not help. > > Ubuntu'e `melange' is Deprecated, and is pending removal from the archive (see launchpad[1]). It's deprecated

Bug#682661: ITP: powerdebug -- tool to display regulator, sensor and clock information

2012-07-24 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Marcin Juszkiewicz -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: powerdebug Version : 0.6.1-2011.10 Upstream Author : Linaro Power Management Working Group * URL : https://launchpad.net/linaro-powerdebug * Lice

Re: Bug#682496: ITP: melange -- Melange Widget System for the Cream Desktop Environment

2012-07-24 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 02:28:16PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 07/24/2012 12:00 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > > Also, we should not favor software written in the context of our downstream > > distributions, compared to sofware written independantly, otherwise the take > > home message will be t

Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Philipp Kern
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:36:51AM +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Le mardi, 24 juillet 2012 09.03:30, Philipp Kern a écrit : > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:31:43PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > > > Please try using complete sentences. While you're at it, > > > constructive messages would b

Re: solving the network-manager-in-gnome problem

2012-07-24 Thread Roger Leigh
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 11:31:26AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2012-07-24 08:16:43 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > > > I don't think it follows at all that because there are init systems > > which conflict with sysvinit, Debian does not support multiple init > > systems. > > But in such

Re: MATE Desktop Environment in Debian

2012-07-24 Thread Dmitry Shachnev
I agree with Josselin here. There is no point in forking gconf and other libraries. Even worse, this will increase the incompatibility between different desktops. For example, an app making use of "gconftool-2" will not work when there's "mateconftool-2" in the system instead. If you want to fix a

Re: solving the network-manager-in-gnome problem

2012-07-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Vincent Lefevre > But in such a case, sysvinit shouldn't be an essential package (and > packages that need it should thus have an explicit dependency on it), > since it isn't really needed in a working Debian system. And people are working towards that goal. We won't be there for wheezy, but

Re: solving the network-manager-in-gnome problem

2012-07-24 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-07-24 08:16:43 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > ]] Vincent Lefevre > > > On 2012-07-23 15:55:27 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > > ]] Vincent Lefevre > > > > > > > On 2012-07-23 10:21:04 +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > > > > ]] Vincent Lefevre > > > > > > > > > > > OK, if Debian pla

Re: glibc very old

2012-07-24 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-07-24 13:45:08 +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > Vincent Lefevre writes: > > By "correct", I mean that the result is somewhat acceptable (not > > that the result is correctly rounded and the rounding direction is > > honored), instead of getting completely wrong values or even a > > crash. > >

Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Didier 'OdyX' Raboud
Le mardi, 24 juillet 2012 09.03:30, Philipp Kern a écrit : > On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:31:43PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > > Please try using complete sentences. While you're at it, > > constructive messages would be more productive than name-calling. > > If you think that your messages are

Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 07/22/2012 01:24 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Lars Wirzenius wrote: >> >> In my opinion, _every_ technical committee decision should be posted >> to debian-devel-announce. Any time that the TC needs to make a decision, >> it's already an unusual circumstance, and usually something's gone wrong. >

Re: Re: [CTTE #614907] Resolution of node/nodejs conflict

2012-07-24 Thread Philipp Kern
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 10:31:43PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: > Please try using complete sentences. While you're at it, > constructive messages would be more productive than name-calling. If you think that your messages are constructive, well, you're wrong. You're repeating the same arguments