Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

2012-07-07 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Ben Hutchings (b...@decadent.org.uk): > > partman-crypto still installs this. > > Seems like a bug...? The package is orphaned and dm-crypt has support > for a compatible encryption mode. Given the level of attention which partman-crypto got during the squeeze->wheezy release, I'd bet

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

2012-07-07 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 16:36 -0600, Joey Hess wrote: > > - ftp, telnet: mostly redundant with wget and nc, unless you really like > > cleartext authentication > > - procmail: server > > These are priority standard. Which is not the same as being important to include in a desktop installation. > >

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

2012-07-07 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 04:36:34PM -0600, Joey Hess wrote: > > - ftp, telnet: mostly redundant with wget and nc, unless you really like > > cleartext authentication > > - procmail: server > These are priority standard. This is fixeable. > > - pcmciautils: PCMCIA is dead > > - jfsutils, reiserfspr

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

2012-07-07 Thread Joey Hess
> - ftp, telnet: mostly redundant with wget and nc, unless you really like > cleartext authentication > - procmail: server These are priority standard. > - pcmciautils: PCMCIA is dead > - jfsutils, reiserfsprogs, ufsutils: obscure > - discover > - openssh-server: server, not desktop > - grub-lega

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

2012-07-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 12:03:44AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Ansgar Burchardt (07/07/2012): > > Another question is if the release team would consider unblocking > > updated packages (with just the switch to xz for binaries). I think > > it would be nice to be able to get a useful desktop s

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

2012-07-07 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Ansgar Burchardt (07/07/2012): > Another question is if the release team would consider unblocking > updated packages (with just the switch to xz for binaries). I think > it would be nice to be able to get a useful desktop system using just > the first CD, but I'm not sure if they would make an e

Re: EFI in Debian

2012-07-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 11:09:57PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org) [120707 22:54]: > > On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 10:14:01AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > > If OTOH we have to pay a fee just for our software to work on platforms > > > that just happen to be usin

Re: EFI in Debian

2012-07-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 02:48:59PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 10:14:01AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > If OTOH we have to pay a fee just for our software to work on platforms > > that just happen to be using Microsoft’s certificate, this is clearly > > abusive. I w

Re: EFI in Debian

2012-07-07 Thread Andreas Barth
* Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org) [120707 22:54]: > On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 10:14:01AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > If OTOH we have to pay a fee just for our software to work on platforms > > that just happen to be using Microsoft’s certificate, this is clearly > > abusive. I would object

Re: EFI in Debian

2012-07-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 10:14:01AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le vendredi 06 juillet 2012 à 05:32 +0100, Ben Hutchings a écrit : > > 1. General consensus in the project that supporting the option of Secure > > Boot, including purchase of a Microsoft-signed certificate, is > > worthwhile and

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

2012-07-07 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 16:14 +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 02:34:44PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > > The list posted there is the full sorted list of *all* packages, as > > applied to the full set of CDs. The last one on CD#1 is > > gnome-packagekit-data, as I said, and I d

Re: EFI in Debian

2012-07-07 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 08:46 -0600, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: > Hi, > > Ben Hutchings writes: > > 2. Upstream kernel support: when booted in Secure Boot mode, Linux would > > only load signed kernel modules and disable the various debug interfaces > > that allow code injection. I'm aware that David

Re: Bug#679078: ITP: acpi-support-minimal -- minimal acpi scripts

2012-07-07 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 01:29:39AM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: > The bug is already closed but I'd like to share another solution: I am > using "acpi_fakekey $KEY_COFFEE" which sends XF86ScreenSaver key to the > currently displayed X server. This is not foolproof (only one X server, > only if it i

Bug#680654: ITP: fglrx-driver-legacy -- non-free legacy ATI/AMD RadeonHD display driver

2012-07-07 Thread Andreas Beckmann
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andreas Beckmann * Package name: fglrx-driver-legacy Version : 12.6~beta Upstream Author : AMD/ATI * URL : http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/catalyst126legacyproducts.aspx * License : proprietary Programming L

Re: Sysklogd vs. rsyslog

2012-07-07 Thread Michael Biebl
On 07.07.2012 19:07, Guillem Jover wrote: > On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 19:40:25 +0300, Touko Korpela wrote: >> Recent issue is that new kernels (3.5-rc?) have a problem with sysklogd. >> http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=134161256014626&w=2 >> Maybe someone can reply there if having knowledge. >> In sa

Re: Sysklogd vs. rsyslog

2012-07-07 Thread Guillem Jover
On Sat, 2012-07-07 at 19:40:25 +0300, Touko Korpela wrote: > Recent issue is that new kernels (3.5-rc?) have a problem with sysklogd. > http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=134161256014626&w=2 > Maybe someone can reply there if having knowledge. > In same thread Linus made another harsh reply that I

Re: Sysklogd vs. rsyslog

2012-07-07 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Sb, 07 iul 12, 19:40:25, Touko Korpela wrote: > (please cc me) Done. > Some upgraders from previous releases may miss that change > and stay at sysklogd if they don't install new alternative themself. Upgraders should also read the Release Notes ;) http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/i386/re

Sysklogd vs. rsyslog

2012-07-07 Thread Touko Korpela
(please cc me) Rsyslog is now the default syslog daemon on Debian (at least on wheezy, maybe earlier also). It has more features than sysklogd. Maybe package description of sysklogd should tell that better logging daemons are available and it's no longer the default? Some upgraders from previous r

Re: Bug#680226: lib{nss,pam}-ldapd: apt wants to remove them on dist-upgrade in favour of lib{nss,pam}-ldap:i386

2012-07-07 Thread Arthur de Jong
On Fri, 2012-07-06 at 10:00 +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: > > I'm not sure what the proper way is to specify that Conflicts and > > Provides should only apply for a same-architecture version of the > > package. If I do this (just trying some things): > > There is simple no way. Thanks for your

Re: EFI in Debian

2012-07-07 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, Ben Hutchings writes: > 2. Upstream kernel support: when booted in Secure Boot mode, Linux would > only load signed kernel modules and disable the various debug interfaces > that allow code injection. I'm aware that David Howells, Matthew > Garrett and others are working on this. That makes

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

2012-07-07 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 02:34:44PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > The list posted there is the full sorted list of *all* packages, as > applied to the full set of CDs. The last one on CD#1 is > gnome-packagekit-data, as I said, and I don't see any debug packages > above that in the list. Ups, I di

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

2012-07-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 03:10:15PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: >On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 10:10:04PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: >> http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/tmp/new-tasks/gnome-cd.list.gz > >Why does this contain debug packages? The list posted there is the full sorted list of *all* pack

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

2012-07-07 Thread Bastian Blank
On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 10:10:04PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/tmp/new-tasks/gnome-cd.list.gz Why does this contain debug packages? Bastian -- I've already got a female to worry about. Her name is the Enterprise. -- Kirk, "The Corbomite Ma

Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

2012-07-07 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Steve McIntyre writes: > On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 09:00:32PM -0600, Ansgar Burchardt wrote: >>I tried recompressing all packages in wheezy with xz. The total size >>for all amd64+all packages was reduced from 42GB to 33 GB (about 20%). >>A per-package listing is available from [1] >> >> [1]

Bug#680610: ITP: predictprotein -- A service for sequence analysis and the prediction of protein structure and function

2012-07-07 Thread s . domke
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: s.do...@wzw.tum.de * Package name: predictprotein Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Laszlo Kajan * URL : http://www.predictprotein.org// * License : GPL Programming Lang: Perl Description : A service for sequence