Neil Williams writes:
> Whatever happens, there is no place for yet another duplicate of
> packages which already have multiple duplicates in the archive.
I think it's hard to defend the contention that the quantity of packages
has some strong relationship to whether or not those programs duplic
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 10:18:00PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:48:43 +
> Bart Martens wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 10:21:39PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > > Le dimanche 24 juin 2012 à 20:42 +0200, Arno Töll a écrit :
> > > > What makes 42 window manager
Adam Borowski kirjoitti:
>Sure, let's start removals with ones that hard-depend on things a
>window
>manager shouldn't touch, like network-manager.
Which wm does that? I know it isn't gnome-shell at least, as I've been
using it quite successfully without nm installed.
(I hope this message lo
Hi there.
It's come to my attention that bug squashing parties are _the_ way to
fix bugs.
Not to be seen as uncool, I'm proposing a bug squashing party somewhere
in Dublin, Ireland at a mutually agreed date and time.
I'm just canvassing for support right now, as I don't know the Debian
pro
I am confused that where to upload packages after testing freeze.
Give a package foobar, version 1.0 is planned to be included in the
next release.
And now, the version 2.0 released, I want make it available in Debian,
in either unstable or experimental.
Now I have several choice:
1. upload 2.0
Arno Töll writes:
> On 24.06.2012 19:15, Neil Williams wrote:
>> This bug is *not* useful to anyone. Please close it and find an
>> RC bug to close instead.
>
> I'm pretty sure this could be expressed in another tone. Especially
> since we welcome everyone (you know) and we have _no_ written rule
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> retitle 678519 after about a month, routing gets wedged
Bug #678519 [general] general: after about 1 month of uptime, routing of IPv6
packets is no longer possible, and IPv4 routing becomes slow and unpredictable.
Rebooting brings all functional
retitle 678519 after about a month, routing gets wedged
# not a general problem affecting a large portion of the archive
reassign 678519 base
tags 678519 + squeeze
quit
Hi Henrique,
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2012, Rudy Zijlstra wrote:
>> let system run with IPv4 & IPv6
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
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Owner: Jeremy Bicha
* Package name: libzapojit
Version : 0.0.2
Upstream Author : Debarshi Ray
* URL : http://git.gnome.org/browse/libzapojit
* License : LGPL-2.1
Programming Lang: C
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 09:54:22PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:43:03PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> >Meanwhile, you've got a non-FHS directory on your system that is of no
> >immediate use.
>
> Your later suggested /store as a user /tmp replacement is a non-FHS
> di
On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 12:14:46AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Oooh, NM bashing. I like completely irrelevant NM bashing that suddenly
> pops in an unrelated discussion. It’s been some time.
>
> Reading NM bashing really makes me want to jump on my packages and
> cripple their functionality
Oooh, NM bashing. I like completely irrelevant NM bashing that suddenly
pops in an unrelated discussion. It’s been some time.
Reading NM bashing really makes me want to jump on my packages and
cripple their functionality so that they work with inferior networking
scripts.
kthxbye,
--
.''`.
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 10:21:39PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le dimanche 24 juin 2012 à 20:42 +0200, Arno Töll a écrit :
> > What makes 42 window manager acceptable but not 43?
>
> Who said 42 is acceptable?
Sure, let's start removals with ones that hard-depend on things a window
manager
On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:46:55 +
Bart Martens wrote:
> > The maintainer has to make that judgement, it's just one of the things
> > maintainers have to do. popcon is no indicator here, it is about
> > whether there is a bug in Debian, independent of this package.
>
> Not only the maintainer bu
On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:48:43 +
Bart Martens wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 10:21:39PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Le dimanche 24 juin 2012 à 20:42 +0200, Arno Töll a écrit :
> > > What makes 42 window manager acceptable but not 43?
> >
> > Who said 42 is acceptable?
>
> The neglec
"Bernhard R. Link" writes:
> * Lars Wirzenius [120624 12:30]:
>> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 03:27:07PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>>> CFLAGS is an old, long-standing make thing. CPPFLAGS is newer and I
>>> believe was introduced by Autoconf
>> I don't know the history of CPPFLAGS. It's possible i
On 06/21/2012 10:09 PM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> It's all about perspective, though. We use free tools where we can, and
> we try to build free tools where it makes sense. I don't see anybody
> suggesting that we stop having debconf because the only way to get there
> for most people is to use no
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 10:21:39PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le dimanche 24 juin 2012 à 20:42 +0200, Arno Töll a écrit :
> > What makes 42 window manager acceptable but not 43?
>
> Who said 42 is acceptable?
The neglected ones should be removed. If they're all well maintained and all
use
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 08:48:48PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 18:45:54 +
> Bart Martens wrote:
>
> > About allowing new packages in Debian in general : On the one hand you have
> > a
> > point that Debian should not collect any free software, but on the other
> > hand
* Lars Wirzenius [120624 12:30]:
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 03:27:07PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > CFLAGS is an old, long-standing make thing. CPPFLAGS is newer and I
> > believe was introduced by Autoconf
>
> I don't know the history of CPPFLAGS. It's possible it was introduced by
> Autoconf.
On 12-06-24 at 07:44pm, Philip Ashmore wrote:
> On 24/06/12 17:35, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> >On 12-06-24 at 05:24pm, Philip Ashmore wrote:
> >>Anyway, I guess what I would look for, to share the bug squashing
> >>atmosphere with others, is a YouTube video summarising the event,
> >>maybe magazin
Le dimanche 24 juin 2012 à 20:42 +0200, Arno Töll a écrit :
> What makes 42 window manager acceptable but not 43?
Who said 42 is acceptable?
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On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 11:43:03PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 03:46:16PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:
So most of your Debian systems have several users working at the
same time on the same system? Okay, then you have a different user
base.
"webserver".
Sorry, I ignor
On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 18:45:54 +
Bart Martens wrote:
> About allowing new packages in Debian in general : On the one hand you have a
> point that Debian should not collect any free software, but on the other hand
> I
> think that it is OK to have multiple implementations of the same/similar
>
On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 20:42:33 +0200
Arno Töll wrote:
> On 24.06.2012 19:51, Neil Williams wrote:
> > Whatever happens, there is no place for yet another duplicate of
> > packages which already have multiple duplicates in the archive.
>
> Letting alone the package in particular (I don't even know
❦ 24 juin 2012 19:15 CEST, Neil Williams :
>> > I shortened the list to only include one line for each window manager
>> > already
>> > in Debian:
[...]
I think the list is incomplete. For example, awesome is not in it but is
properly tagged.
>> You're right, there are already a lot of X11 w
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 07:37:18PM +0100, Philip Ashmore wrote:
> >Could we perhaps entice you, Philip, to make a change to Debian instead
> >of suggesting things for us to do?
> Bug#678854: Acknowledgement (icewm won't start)
That's a good first step: you've found a problem in Debian. Now you sho
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 06:51:47PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 19:31:12 +0200
> Arno Töll wrote:
>
> Dropping the bug CC.
>
> > On 24.06.2012 19:15, Neil Williams wrote:
> > > This bug is *not* useful to anyone. Please close it and find an
> > > RC bug to close instead.
> >
On 24/06/12 17:35, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
On 12-06-24 at 05:24pm, Philip Ashmore wrote:
Anyway, I guess what I would look for, to share the bug squashing
atmosphere with others, is a YouTube video summarising the event,
maybe magazine style - it doesn't have to show someone actually
squashing a
Hi,
On 24.06.2012 19:51, Neil Williams wrote:
> Whatever happens, there is no place for yet another duplicate of
> packages which already have multiple duplicates in the archive.
Letting alone the package in particular (I don't even know it, nor do I
care), I wonder where you'd draw that line. As
+++ Neil Williams [2012-06-24 18:51 +0100]:
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 19:31:12 +0200
> Arno Töll wrote:
>
> Dropping the bug CC.
>
> > On 24.06.2012 19:15, Neil Williams wrote:
> > > This bug is *not* useful to anyone. Please close it and find an
> > > RC bug to close instead.
> >
> > I'm pretty su
On 24/06/12 17:54, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 05:24:28PM +0100, Philip Ashmore wrote:
Anyway, I guess what I would look for, to share the bug squashing
atmosphere with others, is a YouTube video summarising the event,
maybe magazine style - it doesn't have to show someone actu
On 24/06/12 18:15, Neil Williams wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 18:02:56 +0200
Mickaël Raybaud-Roig wrote:
Thomas Koch wrote:
Hi,
I shortened the list to only include one line for each window manager already
in Debian:
axi-cache --all search x11::window-manager
100% 9wm - emulation of the Plan
Package: wnpp
Owner: Alessandro Ghedini
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org
* Package name: libtest-file-sharedir-perl
Version : 0.3.1
Upstream Author : Kent Fredric
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Test-File-
On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 19:31:12 +0200
Arno Töll wrote:
Dropping the bug CC.
> On 24.06.2012 19:15, Neil Williams wrote:
> > This bug is *not* useful to anyone. Please close it and find an
> > RC bug to close instead.
>
> I'm pretty sure this could be expressed in another tone. Especially
> since w
On 24.06.2012 19:15, Neil Williams wrote:
> This bug is *not* useful to anyone. Please close it and find an
> RC bug to close instead.
I'm pretty sure this could be expressed in another tone. Especially
since we welcome everyone (you know) and we have _no_ written rule what
belongs into Debian and
On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 18:02:56 +0200
Mickaël Raybaud-Roig wrote:
> Thomas Koch wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I shortened the list to only include one line for each window manager
> > already
> > in Debian:
> >
> > axi-cache --all search x11::window-manager
> > 100% 9wm - emulation of the Plan 9 windo
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 05:24:28PM +0100, Philip Ashmore wrote:
> Anyway, I guess what I would look for, to share the bug squashing
> atmosphere with others, is a YouTube video summarising the event,
> maybe magazine style - it doesn't have to show someone actually
> squashing a bug, but it might h
On 12-06-24 at 05:24pm, Philip Ashmore wrote:
> Anyway, I guess what I would look for, to share the bug squashing
> atmosphere with others, is a YouTube video summarising the event,
> maybe magazine style - it doesn't have to show someone actually
> squashing a bug, but it might help highlight t
On 23/06/12 23:59, Wookey wrote:
+++ Philip Ashmore [2012-06-23 05:45 +0100]:
On 23/06/12 00:53, Wookey wrote:
I'm too busy developing the-next-big-thing(TM), but wanted to
encourage some sort of global social bug-squashing event(s) - it
might even encourage non-debianites to participate, or
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Sunday, June 24, 2012 10:50:58 AM Albert Huang wrote:
> > Package: wnpp
> > Severity: wishlist
> > Owner: Albert Huang
> >
> > * Package name: libticables
> > Version : 1.3.3
> > Upstream Author : Lionel Debroux
> > *
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Albert Huang
* Package name: libtifiles
Version : 1.1.5
Upstream Author : Lionel Debroux
* URL : http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilp/
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: C
Description : Texas Instruments calculator file
Thomas Koch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I shortened the list to only include one line for each window manager already
> in Debian:
>
> axi-cache --all search x11::window-manager
> 100% 9wm - emulation of the Plan 9 window manager 8-1/2
> 100% aewm - minimalist window manager for X11
> 100% aewm++ - minima
On Sunday, June 24, 2012 10:50:58 AM Albert Huang wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Albert Huang
>
> * Package name: libticables
> Version : 1.3.3
> Upstream Author : Lionel Debroux
> * URL : http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilp/
> * License : GPL
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Albert Huang
* Package name: libtifiles
Version : 1.1.3
Upstream Author : Lionel Debroux
* URL : http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilp/
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: C
Description : Texas Instruments calculators cha
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 03:57:29PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
> > Release notes are meant to be read once, not every time you upgrade a
> > system. Having a debconf note once might be appropriate. The second
> > time, you'll go "right, I've seen that before". The third time you go
> > "sigh, yes,
Mickaël Raybaud-Roig:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: "Mickaël Raybaud-Roig"
>
> * Package name: wmfs
> Version : 2~beta201206
> Upstream Author : Martin Duquesnoy
> * URL : http://wmfs.info
> * License : BSD
> Programming Lang: C
> Descripti
❦ 24 juin 2012 15:50 CEST, David Kalnischkies :
>> This should be working in apt in wheezy (I didn't verify it), but that
>> is not available at dist-upgrade time.
>
> I can't reproduce this in either version with our usual testcase creator
> (apt/test/integration/create-test-data), but these te
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Albert Huang
* Package name: libticables
Version : 1.3.3
Upstream Author : Lionel Debroux
* URL : http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_tilp/
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: C
Description : Texas Instruments link cables li
On Sun, 24 Jun 2012, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes:
> > I've read that some SSDs really *dislike* the way Linux does TRIM
> > batching (or doesn't :p), so yes, it may well be that on most SSDs
> > regular fstrim will do much better.
>
> I'm assuming this is due
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Andreas Beckmann wrote:
> On 2012-06-23 12:55, Vincent Bernat wrote:
>> I was suggested to turn `roundcube-sqlite` into some kind of
>> transitional package. But it seems difficult for me to choose between
>> `roundcube-mysql` and `roundcube-sqlite`. And it does no
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Mickaël Raybaud-Roig"
* Package name: wmfs
Version : 2~beta201206
Upstream Author : Martin Duquesnoy
* URL : http://wmfs.info
* License : BSD
Programming Lang: C
Description : Window Manager From Scratch
« WM
Wouter Verhelst writes:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 09:32:15PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> On 06/22/2012 05:34 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> > Step 1: upgrade/dist-upgrade with ia32-libs (wine, ...) held back
>> > Step 2: dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update
>> > Step 3: dist-upg
Phillip Susi writes:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Phillip Susi
>
> * Package name: e2defrag
> Version : 0.79
> Upstream Author : Phillip Susi
> * URL : http://launchpad.net/e2defrag
> * License : GPL
> Programming Lang: C
> Description
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh writes:
> On Sun, 24 Jun 2012, Osamu Aoki wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 06:00:15PM +0300, Touko Korpela wrote:
>> > Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
>> > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:46:57PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:
>> > > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 07:12:11PM +0200, T
Adam Borowski writes:
> On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 01:07:56PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> It has to be held back. But apt-get/aptitude might select a solution
>> where they do get removed rather then hold back many other packages.
>> I'm hoping it will be held back automatically without us
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 03:27:07PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> CFLAGS is an old, long-standing make thing. CPPFLAGS is newer and I
> believe was introduced by Autoconf
I don't know the history of CPPFLAGS. It's possible it was introduced by
Autoconf. However, it is now embedded into the implicit
On Sun, 2012-06-24 at 11:07:05 +0300, Serge wrote:
> 2012/6/24 Russ Allbery wrote:
> >> If you do, then... How should they do that? I.e. if I specify:
> >> CPPFLAGS="blablabla hehehe hohoho"
> >> How should build system run gcc? Like that?
> >> gcc blablabla hehehe hohoho -c -o test.o test.c
>
* Serge [120624 00:15]:
> Or you mean that they should run `gcc`/`g++` with CPPFLAGS?
> If you do, then... How should they do that?
gcc $(CPPFLAGS) $(CFLAGS) -c -o foo.o foo.c
gcc $(CFLAGS) $(LDFLAGS) -o foo foo.o
gcc $(CPPFLAGS) $(CFLAGS) $(LDFLAGS) -o foo foo.c
g++ $(CPPFLAGS) $(CXXFLAGS) -c -o
Darren Baginski wrote:>
> Is there other developer involved in development?
Yes
> Mind to share data how many 'redirect' were served?
Over 480k requests from APT clients. Not counting apt-cacher-ng and friends,
random users, or the couple of mirrors that "sync" from it.
> Why do you think red
2012/6/24 Russ Allbery wrote:
>> If you do, then... How should they do that? I.e. if I specify:
>> CPPFLAGS="blablabla hehehe hohoho"
>> How should build system run gcc? Like that?
>> gcc blablabla hehehe hohoho -c -o test.o test.c
>
> Yes.
Why? Just to have it autotools-compatible? If I was
On 06/24/2012 06:01 AM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 09:32:15PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> On 06/22/2012 05:34 PM, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>>> Step 1: upgrade/dist-upgrade with ia32-libs (wine, ...) held back
>>> Step 2: dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update
>>
Hi
When you want the unstable version of your package in the release, it
needs to be ready to migrate when it has aged enough in unstable.
Reasons why it can not be ready:
* RC bugs against the version in unstable that are not present in the
version in testing (according to the BTS). If the RC b
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