Re: Making -devel discussions more viable (was: switching from exim to postfix)

2012-05-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 10:44:17PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > It was implemented because at the time ubuntu-devel had a very low signal to > noise ratio and developers were getting frustrated (sound familiar). My > opinion is that it worked pretty well. > Most of the noise immediately shif

Re: Making -devel discussions more viable (was: switching from exim to postfix)

2012-05-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, May 04, 2012 11:17:24 PM Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer wrote: > Not enough information to check signature validity. Show Details > On Jue 03 May 2012 08:23:29 Stefano Zacchiroli escribió: > [snip] > > > 3) public, but contributors-only list > > > > > > > > This has been implem

Re: Making -devel discussions more viable (was: switching from exim to postfix)

2012-05-04 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Jue 03 May 2012 08:23:29 Stefano Zacchiroli escribió: [snip] > 3) public, but contributors-only list > > This has been implemented by other FOSS projects. A notable example is > Ubuntu who have a split between ubuntu-devel (project members only + > whitelisting) and ubuntu-devel-discuss (free

Re: Node.js and it's future in debian

2012-05-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Hi Patrick, On 12-05-03 at 05:28pm, Patrick Ouellette wrote: > On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 05:13:09PM -0400, Chris Knadle wrote: > > > > Drat. I forgot about APRS. APRS has become fairly popular among > > hams, so much so that it now comes built-in to several radios, and > > even HTs (Handy-Talkie

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Node.js and it's future in debian

2012-05-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 12-05-02 at 05:10pm, Patrick Ouellette wrote: > On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 08:22:05PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > > Maybe we should short-circuit this part of the conversation, since > > it doesn't sound like you're horribly interested in agreeing to > > change the name of node in the exist

Re: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-04 Thread Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer
On Vie 04 May 2012 18:13:01 Russ Allbery escribió: [big snip] I think Russ' proposal is quite a nice solution. Kinds regards, Lisandro. -- The volume of a pizza of thickness a and radius z can be described by the following formula: pi zz a Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer http://perezmeyer

Re: Node.js and it's future in debian

2012-05-04 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 12-05-03 at 10:40am, Russ Allbery wrote: > Patrick Ouellette writes: > > How many people use Node.js? I had never heard of it until this > > came up, and I work in IT with web development teams. > > Relative numbers really isn't the point, and I'm sorry I distracted us > all with that. The

Re: Node.js and it's future in debian

2012-05-04 Thread brian m. carlson
On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 09:03:55AM +0200, Vincent Bernat wrote: > OoO En cette fin de nuit blanche du vendredi 04 mai 2012, vers 06:11, > Hamish Moffatt disait : > > > Secondly if node.js is usually just used via #!, I'm not sure why it's in > > $PATH at all - why not in /usr/lib? > > Neithe

Re: Bug#648345: marked as done (FTBFS on kfreebsd-amd64)

2012-05-04 Thread Robert Millan
2012/5/4 Marco d'Itri : > On May 02, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > >> -Architecture: any >> +Architecture: linux-any > Robert, don't you have anything better to do with your time than NMU'ing > other people's packages with cosmetic issues? > I obviously do not want to dictate how you should

Re: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-04 Thread Russ Allbery
David Kalnischkies writes: > Completely ignoring the mail itself and just referring to the title > (beside ignoring even the first word in that): "repository format is > not documented" is a valid bug - and it should be documented for the > benefit of people who write the various tools used to g

Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-04 Thread David Kalnischkies
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:49 PM, Michal Suchanek wrote: > This, however, does not apply the apt-ftparchive. It is supposed to > create the required files fully automatically. With the provided > documentation I was able to make it do exactly nothing, fully > automatically. For the record: This was

Re: Bug#671302: Circular Build Dependencies (was Bug#671302: libav: circular dependency between libav and opencv)

2012-05-04 Thread Fabian Greffrath
> libav -> x264 -> libav AFAICT the x264 frontend uses libav whereas libav uses the libx264 shared library. So theortically (!) this issue could be solved by two separate source packages for the x264 frontend and the library. - Fabian -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.de

Re: Bug#671302: Circular Build Dependencies (was Bug#671302: libav: circular dependency between libav and opencv)

2012-05-04 Thread Andres Mejia
On May 4, 2012 4:43 PM, "Fabian Greffrath" wrote: > > > libav -> x264 -> libav > > AFAICT the x264 frontend uses libav whereas libav uses the libx264 shared > library. So theortically (!) this issue could be solved by two separate > source packages for the x264 frontend and the library. > > - Fab

Bug#671517: ITP: carton -- Perl module dependency manager (aka Bundler for Perl)

2012-05-04 Thread Michael Prokop
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Prokop * Package name: carton Version : 0.9.5+git8e653 Upstream Author : Tatsuhiko Miyagawa * URL : https://github.com/miyagawa/carton * License : GPL-1+ or Artistic Programming Lang: Perl Description :

Re: Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-04 Thread Neil Williams
On Fri, 04 May 2012 18:49:34 +0200 Michal Suchanek wrote: > Package: general > Severity: important > > I wanted to create a repository of my own packages so that I can use the > standard Debian tools to install these packages and resolve any > dependencies automatically. Use better tools - repr

Re: Bug#648345: marked as done (FTBFS on kfreebsd-amd64)

2012-05-04 Thread Andrew Shadura
Hello, On Fri, 4 May 2012 16:34:30 +0200 m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: > > That doesn't look cosmetic to me. That looks like an FTBFS fix for > > kfreeBSD, which he gave you 5 months to do yourself before NMUing > > it. > Since the package did not work before and will not work after, I do >

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Node.js and it's future in debian

2012-05-04 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > Hi Pau, > > On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 04:24:21PM +0200, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: >> Regarding the often-mentioned "many users run 'node script' from the >> command-line"... so what? If we can get enough distributions (Debian, >> Suse, Fedora,

Re: Node.js and it's future in debian

2012-05-04 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Pau, On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 04:24:21PM +0200, Pau Garcia i Quiles wrote: > Regarding the often-mentioned "many users run 'node script' from the > command-line"... so what? If we can get enough distributions (Debian, > Suse, Fedora, MacPorts and brew would likely be enough) to rename the > node

Bug#671503: general: APT repository format is not documented

2012-05-04 Thread Michal Suchanek
Package: general Severity: important Hello, I wanted to create a repository of my own packages so that I can use the standard Debian tools to install these packages and resolve any dependencies automatically. However, there is no documentation of the format of these repositories. There are mult

Bug#671499: ITP: tdiary-contrib -- Misc plugins and utilities for tDiary

2012-05-04 Thread Taku YASUI
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Taku YASUI * Package name: tdiary-contrib Version : 20120504 Upstream Author : TADA Tadashi * URL : http://www.tdiary.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Ruby Description : Misc plugins and utilities for

Re: How often is any package tested for FTBS on main arch ?

2012-05-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Neil Williams writes: > Dominique Dumont wrote: >> We, sdl maintainers, made a recent change in our package by removing >> unnecessary build depends on -dev packages [1]. > ... at which point you should have looked at the list of reverse > dependencies and done some tests yourselves before upl

Re: Node.js and it's future in debian

2012-05-04 Thread Russ Allbery
The Fungi writes: > I think this is part of the misunderstanding. If these systems are nodes > on an AX.25 network, what's being renamed (and potentially broken) is > the userspace binary which connects the machine to the network. Think of > it as if you're suggesting a rename of /usr/sbin/sshd t

Re: Bug#648345: marked as done (FTBFS on kfreebsd-amd64)

2012-05-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 04, Wookey wrote: > That doesn't look cosmetic to me. That looks like an FTBFS fix for > kfreeBSD, which he gave you 5 months to do yourself before NMUing it. Since the package did not work before and will not work after, I do not consider this strictly a FTBFS bug. -- ciao, Marco sig

Re: Bug#648345: marked as done (FTBFS on kfreebsd-amd64)

2012-05-04 Thread Wookey
+++ Marco d'Itri [2012-05-04 16:01 +0200]: > On May 02, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > > > -Architecture: any > > +Architecture: linux-any > Robert, don't you have anything better to do with your time than NMU'ing > other people's packages with cosmetic issues? > I obviously do not want to

Re: Node.js and it's future in debian

2012-05-04 Thread Pau Garcia i Quiles
Hi, What are other distributions doing? I've check and OpenSuse apparently lives happy with having /usr/sbin/node for axnode and /usr/bin/node for node.js. Has anyone contacted them about this? Regarding the often-mentioned "many users run 'node script' from the command-line"... so what? If we c

Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Node.js and it's future in debian

2012-05-04 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, May 03, 2012 at 12:39:04PM -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : > > Consider a package that contains a node.js script, which is not the > primary purpose of the package. So it Recommends, rather than depends > on nodejs. (Let's assume it uses #!/usr/bin/env node, and for the sake > of example is som

Re: Bug#648345: marked as done (FTBFS on kfreebsd-amd64)

2012-05-04 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 02, Debian Bug Tracking System wrote: > -Architecture: any > +Architecture: linux-any Robert, don't you have anything better to do with your time than NMU'ing other people's packages with cosmetic issues? I obviously do not want to dictate how you should spend your time, but is kfreebsd a

Bug#671487: ITP: python-oauthlib -- Generic, spec-compliant, thorough implementation of the OAuth request-signing logic

2012-05-04 Thread Daniele Tricoli
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Daniele Tricoli * Package name: python-oauthlib Version : 0.1.2 Upstream Author : Idan Gazit * URL : https://github.com/idangazit/oauthlib * License : BSD-3-clause Programming Lang: Python Description : Generic,

Bug#671481: ITP: libzeep -- A C++ library providing a validating XML parser, XML DOM tree implement

2012-05-04 Thread Maarten L. Hekkelman
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Maarten L. Hekkelman" * Package name: libzeep Version : 2.9.0 Upstream Author : Maarten L. Hekkelman * URL : http://www.cmbi.ru.nl/libzeep * License : Boost-1.0 Programming Lang: C++ Description : A C++ library

Re: smaller than 0 but not negative (Re: question about "Conflicts:"

2012-05-04 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Thibaut Paumard > Le 04/05/12 00:29, Peter Samuelson a écrit : > > > > [Patrick Lauer] > >> 1.0_pre20120503 maybe > > > > That'd be wrong if you expect a real _alpha, _beta or _pre of the given > > version in the future. I think in that case you'd need something like > > 1.0_alpha_alpha2012

Re: switching from exim to postfix

2012-05-04 Thread Håkon Alstadheim
On 04. mai 2012 01:29, Roger Lynn wrote: On 02/05/12 02:00, brian m. carlson wrote: On Tue, May 01, 2012 at 07:47:08PM +0100, Roger Lynn wrote: I have enabled accept_8bitmime in every exim I've installed for the last 10 years and no one has reported any problems. I think the risk of encounterin

Re: Node.js and it's future in debian

2012-05-04 Thread The Fungi
On 2012-05-04 09:03:19 +0100 (+0100), Jon Dowland wrote: [...] > So some form of access to the machine would be required to create > the problem, be it physical or remote. The same access should be > used to fix the problem. [...] I think this is part of the misunderstanding. If these systems are

Re: How often is any package tested for FTBS on main arch ?

2012-05-04 Thread Neil Williams
On Fri, 4 May 2012 10:08:44 +0200 Dominique Dumont wrote: > We, sdl maintainers, made a recent change in our package by removing > unnecessary build depends on -dev packages [1]. ... at which point you should have looked at the list of reverse dependencies and done some tests yourselves before

Re: Circular Build Dependencies

2012-05-04 Thread Игорь Пашев
2012/5/4 Игорь Пашев > x11-utils xfonts-utils

Re: Circular Build Dependencies

2012-05-04 Thread Игорь Пашев
When I meet circular build deps: 1. Just get sources and try to build, satisfying what possible. Some deps required for docs or tests and may be ignored for the first time. 2. If a build dep is really required to build (I remember x11-utils), I install it separately from sources into /usr/local

Re: Circular Build Dependencies

2012-05-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andres Mejia writes: > On May 3, 2012 10:20 AM, "Andres Mejia" wrote: >> >> On May 3, 2012 9:30 AM, "Pino Toscano" wrote: >> > >> > Alle giovedì 3 maggio 2012, Andres Mejia ha scritto: >> > > On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 3:44 AM, Pino Toscano wrote: >> > > > Package: libav >> > > > Version: 6:0.8.1-

How often is any package tested for FTBS on main arch ?

2012-05-04 Thread Dominique Dumont
Hello We, sdl maintainers, made a recent change in our package by removing unnecessary build depends on -dev packages [1]. Unfortunately, some package did rely on this "extra" dependencies and went ftbs [2]. Now is the question of possible impact (FTBS) on all packages build-depending on sdl

Re: Node.js and it's future in debian

2012-05-04 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 04:20:46PM -0400, Patrick Ouellette wrote: > On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 10:11:41PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > > > You also don't address the issue of a user who installs both packages > > > and now gets varying behavior depending on their $PATH - a result not > > > of

Re: Node.js and it's future in debian

2012-05-04 Thread Jon Dowland
On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 02:26:33PM -0400, Patrick Ouellette wrote: > One of the considerable costs involves the number of systems in place in > the ham community that are not easily physically accessible should the > upgrade/change break the system. These systems may be on mountain tops, > high bu

Re: Node.js and it's future in debian

2012-05-04 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO En cette fin de nuit blanche du vendredi 04 mai 2012, vers 06:11, Hamish Moffatt disait : > Secondly if node.js is usually just used via #!, I'm not sure why it's in > $PATH at all - why not in /usr/lib? Neither "#!/usr/bin/node" nor "#!/usr/bin/env node" will work then. -- Vincent Ber

Re: smaller than 0 but not negative (Re: question about "Conflicts:"

2012-05-04 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Le 04/05/12 00:29, Peter Samuelson a écrit : > > [Patrick Lauer] >> 1.0_pre20120503 maybe > > That'd be wrong if you expect a real _alpha, _beta or _pre of the given > version in the future. I think in that case you'd need something like > 1.0_alpha_alpha20120503 or 1.0_alpha_pre20120503. > 1