Re: Changing the default document root for HTTP server

2012-04-14 Thread Daniel Baumann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/15/2012 02:25 AM, Arno Töll wrote: > /srv can't be used either as no path hierarchy is specified for > /srv (e.g. think of /srv/www) and we really do not want to serve > the entire /srv hierarchy as a document root either. packages should have a

Re: Bug#668556: ITP: dparser -- a scannerless GLR parser generator

2012-04-14 Thread Miles Bader
Adam Borowski writes: > On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 11:22:06AM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: >> >GLR means "Generalized Left-to-right Rightmost deviation parser" >> >or maybe "Generalized LR parser". EBNF is the Extended Backus–Naur >> >Form. Acronyms like these - i.e. LL, LL(k), SLR, LALR - are pretty >

Re: Bug#668556: ITP: dparser -- a scannerless GLR parser generator

2012-04-14 Thread Miles Bader
"Bernhard R. Link" writes: > For the grammer I personally would prefer it expanded, though I > think it is more understandable as "EBNF (Extended Backus-Naur Form) > Grammar" than the other way around. I agree -- in reinforces the fact that these are well-known terms which are often known by thei

Re: Changing the default document root for HTTP server

2012-04-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Arno Töll writes: > Unless I'm missing something there is no better location for HTTP > documents mentioned within the FHS. Note /srv can't be used either as no > path hierarchy is specified for /srv (e.g. think of /srv/www) and we > really do not want to serve the entire /srv hierarchy as a docu

Re: eglibc 2.14 for wheezy?

2012-04-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 08:25:10PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > As the title says, are there plans to use eglibc 2.14 for wheezy?? > It has been out for some time now. No. 2.14 was a dud release with many quality issues, and everyone else has skipped it over in favor of 2.15. -- Steve Langase

Changing the default document root for HTTP server

2012-04-14 Thread Arno Töll
Hello, (please keep replies limited to -devel; I'd just like to point relevant maintainers to this thread) I'd like to discuss a change related to the default document root for HTTP servers in Debian. On behalf of the Apache maintainers I consider this change a worthwhile idea, but we would like t

Results for Debian Project Leader 2012 Election

2012-04-14 Thread devotee
Greetings, This message is an automated, unofficial publication of vote results. Official results shall follow, sent in by the vote taker, namely Debian Project Secretary This email is just a convenience for the impatient. I remain, gentle folks, Your humble servant, De

Re: The future of non-dependency-based boot

2012-04-14 Thread Raphael Geissert
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > 3) Aborting the upgrade because dependency boot ordering fails will be a > major issue for users. You already mentioned 2 issues and on my system > at home I get an error about a dependency loop. Dependency based boot > doesn't seem to be universally working enough yet

Re: Bug#668841: ITP: svipc -- System V InterProcess Communication for Python/Yorick

2012-04-14 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi, Thanks for your interest. Le 14/04/12 22:30, Roger Leigh a écrit : >> * Package name: svipc >> * URL : https://github.com/frigaut/yorick-svipc/ > > Given the rather generic package name, and the fact that > upstream is already using yorick-svipc, wouldn't it be > better to co

Re: wine-unstable in Debian

2012-04-14 Thread Kai Wasserbäch
[Please don't CC me on messages to debian-devel.] Petr Baudis schrieb am 14.04.2012 16:51: > Hi! > > It appears that the last release of wine easily available in Debian > is from 2009, quite a surprising state for a high-profile project like > that. Kai Wasserbäch appears to be very kindly p

Re: Packaging of new upstream (pre-)releases until wheezy

2012-04-14 Thread Christoph Egger
Hi! Neil Williams writes: > unstable > gets priority as far as the buildd network is concerned. While that's true, a sample package (priority optional) I've uploaded to experimental today has been building on half the debian architectures in less than half an hour and now, after 7h is only mis

Re: Packaging of new upstream (pre-)releases until wheezy

2012-04-14 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 21:49:06 +0200 Svante Signell wrote: > On Sat, 2012-04-14 at 21:40 +0200, Martin Bagge / brother wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Apr 2012, Svante Signell wrote: > > > > > It seems > > > like many DMs package new releases/fixes bugs closer to the release than > > > attending to that now

Re: Bug#668841: ITP: svipc -- System V InterProcess Communication for Python/Yorick

2012-04-14 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 10:16:53PM +0200, Thibaut Paumard wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Thibaut Paumard > > * Package name: svipc > * URL : https://github.com/frigaut/yorick-svipc/ Given the rather generic package name, and the fact that upstream is already

Bug#668841: ITP: svipc -- System V InterProcess Communication for Python/Yorick

2012-04-14 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thibaut Paumard * Package name: svipc Version : 0.9 Upstream Author : Matthieu Bec * URL : https://github.com/frigaut/yorick-svipc/ * License : GPL-3 Programming Lang: C, Yorick, Python Description : System V Inte

Re: Packaging of new upstream (pre-)releases until wheezy

2012-04-14 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2012-04-14 at 21:40 +0200, Martin Bagge / brother wrote: > On Sat, 14 Apr 2012, Svante Signell wrote: > > > It seems > > like many DMs package new releases/fixes bugs closer to the release than > > attending to that now. Of course it is a time/resource issue, but > > anyway. Why not packag

Re: Packaging of new upstream (pre-)releases until wheezy

2012-04-14 Thread Fernando Lemos
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Neil Williams wrote: > On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 20:36:13 +0200 > Svante Signell wrote: >> Doing that will make the >> release of wheezy much smoother than trying to fix things in the last >> minute (and risk that the packages gets excluded from wheezy??) > > Definitely

Re: Packaging of new upstream (pre-)releases until wheezy

2012-04-14 Thread Martin Bagge / brother
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012, Svante Signell wrote: It seems like many DMs package new releases/fixes bugs closer to the release than attending to that now. Of course it is a time/resource issue, but anyway. Why not package pre-releases in experimental, to squeeze bugs out before the new upstream release

Re: Packaging of new upstream (pre-)releases until wheezy

2012-04-14 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 20:36:13 +0200 Svante Signell wrote: > A question about packaging of some upstream (pre-)releases. It seems > like many DMs package new releases/fixes bugs closer to the release than > attending to that now. ... which makes life harder for everyone, so let's not do that this

Packaging of new upstream (pre-)releases until wheezy

2012-04-14 Thread Svante Signell
Hi, A question about packaging of some upstream (pre-)releases. It seems like many DMs package new releases/fixes bugs closer to the release than attending to that now. Of course it is a time/resource issue, but anyway. Why not package pre-releases in experimental, to squeeze bugs out before the n

Re: eglibc 2.14 for wheezy?

2012-04-14 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
Le samedi 14 avril 2012 20:37:14, Svante Signell a écrit : > On Sat, 2012-04-14 at 20:27 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > Svante Signell (14/04/2012): > > > As the title says, are there plans to use eglibc 2.14 for wheezy?? > > > It has been out for some time now. > > > > Again, ask the maintain

Re: eglibc 2.14 for wheezy?

2012-04-14 Thread Svante Signell
On Sat, 2012-04-14 at 20:27 +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Svante Signell (14/04/2012): > > As the title says, are there plans to use eglibc 2.14 for wheezy?? > > It has been out for some time now. > > Again, ask the maintainers. Not dd@. OK, I will, where? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debi

Re: eglibc 2.14 for wheezy?

2012-04-14 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Svante Signell (14/04/2012): > As the title says, are there plans to use eglibc 2.14 for wheezy?? > It has been out for some time now. Again, ask the maintainers. Not dd@. Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

eglibc 2.14 for wheezy?

2012-04-14 Thread Svante Signell
Hi, As the title says, are there plans to use eglibc 2.14 for wheezy?? It has been out for some time now. Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/133

Re: wine-unstable in Debian

2012-04-14 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 05:56:58PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > It's not even about unstable releases of wine, we're multiple major stable > releases past as well: > > Upstream has: > * devel 1.5.2 > * stable1.4 > > Debian has: > * unstable 1.0.1-3.5 > * experimental 1.1.24

Re: wine-unstable in Debian

2012-04-14 Thread Johan Grönqvist
2012-04-14 16:51, Petr Baudis skrev: I know that there is also an effort by Ove Kåven to bring wine up-to-date with some nice extras (thanks for that too!), but it seems to be quite slow-paced (the last status update I have found was from Sep 2011), so perhaps it would be beneficial to have wo

Re: wine-unstable in Debian

2012-04-14 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 04:51:56PM +0200, Petr Baudis wrote: > Hi! > > It appears that the last release of wine easily available in Debian > is from 2009, quite a surprising state for a high-profile project like > that. Kai Wasserbäch appears to be very kindly providing wine-unstable > packag

wine-unstable in Debian

2012-04-14 Thread Petr Baudis
Hi! It appears that the last release of wine easily available in Debian is from 2009, quite a surprising state for a high-profile project like that. Kai Wasserbäch appears to be very kindly providing wine-unstable packages for Debian at http://dev.carbon-project.org/debian/wine-unsta

Bug#668809: ITP: logging-tree -- introspect and display the logging tree

2012-04-14 Thread Federico Ceratto
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Federico Ceratto * Package name: logging-tree Version : 1.1 Upstream Author : Brandon Rhodes * URL : http://rhodesmill.org/brandon/2012/logging_tree/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: Python Description : introsp

Re: Bug#668556: ITP: dparser -- a scannerless GLR parser generator

2012-04-14 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Markus Wanner [120414 13:32]: > On 04/14/2012 11:22 AM, Jakub Wilk wrote: > > Sure, they are also much more common than GLR. And if you are "just" > > interested in parsing and not a computer scientists, there's a chance > > you've never heard about any of them. > > Based on two votes for extend

Re: Bug#668556: ITP: dparser -- a scannerless GLR parser generator

2012-04-14 Thread Markus Wanner
Hi, On 04/14/2012 02:12 PM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > I've written parsers (using bison, though) and can't recall having heard > the term GLR parser before. Maybe I'm unique in that respect, but I > doubt it. Note that bison also supports building GLR parsers. That's a somewhat recent addition, I

Re: Bug#668556: ITP: dparser -- a scannerless GLR parser generator

2012-04-14 Thread Moray Allan
On Sat, 2012-04-14 at 15:09 +0300, Andrew Shadura wrote: > During my university studies I had a course dedicated to compilers > theory, but while I knew (and still know) the meaning of all those > abbreviations I rarely tried to spell them out in full, but rather was > always using their abbreviate

Re: Bug#668556: ITP: dparser -- a scannerless GLR parser generator

2012-04-14 Thread Markus Wanner
On 04/14/2012 01:12 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > I can't really imagine someone writing a parser using such tools without > having heard these acronyms first, though. And I'd risk saying they are > actually more widely known than their expansions. Yeah, that's why I think the acronyms must be inclu

Re: Bug#668556: ITP: dparser -- a scannerless GLR parser generator

2012-04-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Adam Borowski > I can't really imagine someone writing a parser using such tools without > having heard these acronyms first, though. And I'd risk saying they are > actually more widely known than their expansions. I've written parsers (using bison, though) and can't recall having heard the

Re: Bug#668556: ITP: dparser -- a scannerless GLR parser generator

2012-04-14 Thread Andrew Shadura
Hello, On Sat, 14 Apr 2012 13:12:48 +0200 Adam Borowski wrote: > I can't really imagine someone writing a parser using such tools > without having heard these acronyms first, though. And I'd risk > saying they are actually more widely known than their expansions. During my university studies I

Re: Bug#668556: ITP: dparser -- a scannerless GLR parser generator

2012-04-14 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 11:22:06AM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > * Markus Wanner , 2012-04-14, 10:45: > >>I would like to suggest to explicit the "GLR", "RPF", and > >>perhaps "EBNF" acronyms in the long description. > > > >GLR means "Generalized Left-to-right Rightmost deviation parser" > >or maybe "

Re: Bug#668556: ITP: dparser -- a scannerless GLR parser generator

2012-04-14 Thread Markus Wanner
Hi, On 04/14/2012 11:22 AM, Jakub Wilk wrote: > Sure, they are also much more common than GLR. And if you are "just" > interested in parsing and not a computer scientists, there's a chance > you've never heard about any of them. Based on two votes for extending the acronyms, I propose to change t

Re: usefulness of ITPs (Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over)

2012-04-14 Thread Moray Allan
On Sat, 2012-04-14 at 17:21 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > Might be best to both at once (using X-Debbugs-CC)? That's fine if the upstream author is sufficiently aware of Debian processes, but if not then the ITP template is rather an impersonal way to make contact. Despite licences, it's polite to st

Re: Bug#668556: ITP: dparser -- a scannerless GLR parser generator

2012-04-14 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Markus Wanner , 2012-04-14, 10:45: I would like to suggest to explicit the "GLR", "RPF", and perhaps "EBNF" acronyms in the long description. Thanks for your suggestions. GLR means "Generalized Left-to-right Rightmost deviation parser" or maybe "Generalized LR parser". EBNF is the Extended

Re: usefulness of ITPs (Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over)

2012-04-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Barak A. Pearlmutter wrote: > People embarking on packaging a bit of software are also supposed to > contact the upstream author.  When one contacts the upstream author > and they respond quickly and say they'd love to have the software > packaged and they don't kn

Re: Bug#668556: ITP: dparser -- a scannerless GLR parser generator

2012-04-14 Thread Markus Wanner
Dear Charles, On 04/14/2012 05:37 AM, Charles Plessy wrote: > I would like to suggest to explicit the "GLR", "RPF", and perhaps "EBNF" > acronyms in the long description. Thanks for your suggestions. GLR means "Generalized Left-to-right Rightmost deviation parser" or maybe "Generalized LR parser

Re: usefulness of ITPs (Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over)

2012-04-14 Thread Barak A. Pearlmutter
People embarking on packaging a bit of software are also supposed to contact the upstream author. When one contacts the upstream author and they respond quickly and say they'd love to have the software packaged and they don't know of anyone else doing so, an ITP can seem (depending on the particul