Re: usefulness of ITPs (Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over)

2012-03-27 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
On 28/03/2012 00:46, Joey Hess wrote: > Jon Dowland wrote: >> That was Joey's hypothetical, iirc, and I don't really agree with his >> supposition that initial packaging is such quick work that the ITP >> delay is significant. > > The typical package is fairly trivial to create. Often the rules fi

Re: usefulness of ITPs (Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over)

2012-03-27 Thread Joey Hess
Jon Dowland wrote: > That was Joey's hypothetical, iirc, and I don't really agree with his > supposition that initial packaging is such quick work that the ITP > delay is significant. The typical package is fairly trivial to create. Often the rules file doesn't need modifications anymore, so unles

Bug#666026: ITP: libnetfilter_acct -- nfacct library files

2012-03-27 Thread Laurence J. Lane
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Laurence J. Lane" * Package name: libnetfilter_acct Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Pablo Neira Ayuso * URL : http://www.netfilter.org/projects/libnetfilter_acct/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description

Bug#666022: ITP: nfacct -- command line tool to create/retrieve/delete netfilter accounting objects

2012-03-27 Thread Laurence J. Lane
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Laurence J. Lane" * Package name: nfacct Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Pablo Neira Ayuso * URL : http://www.netfilter.org/projects/libnetfilter_acct/downloads.html * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Descriptio

Bug#666010: ITP: nvidia-texture-tools -- image processing and texture manipulation tools

2012-03-27 Thread Lennart Weller
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Lennart Weller * Package name: nvidia-texture-tools Version : 2.0.8 Upstream Author : Ignacio Castano * URL : http://code.google.com/p/nvidia-texture-tools/ * License : MIT/Expat, BSD-2-clause Programming Lang: C++

Re: init systems and Policy

2012-03-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Tollef Fog Heen writes: > The only case I've seen this cause problems is when you have an init > script that provides other verbs than systemctl does, since > /etc/init.d/foo $verb is translated into systemctl foo.service $verb It would be nice to say, in Policy, that systemd unit files can be s

Preinstalled package manager(s) for PCs (wheezy)

2012-03-27 Thread Filipus Klutiero
Hi, 3 days ago I installed wheezy on my laptop. The day after I realized that no graphical APT front-end was installed. Usually, I just install Synaptic as a habit, but this time I was surprised I had to do that as I was specifically testing the completeness of our KDE meta-packages and had in

Re: init systems and Policy

2012-03-27 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Simon McVittie > On 27/03/12 07:20, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > >> It is not clear to me the status of similar policy work for systemd, > >> although I see that systemd maintainers are participating in > >> #591791. Again, if you're interested in Debian switch to systemd, > >> please contribute t

Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over

2012-03-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 27 mar 12, 08:36:58, David Banks wrote: > > In the specific case of mosh, I have posted three RFS messages to > debian-mentors since filing the ITP, in addition to the creation of the > RFS bug after the sponsorship-requests procedure was announced, so the > package was certainly being work

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-27 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 20:45:20 +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote: > Writing configuration files with the shell is not going to be anywhere > simple. In two years, it will be the same mess as now: everybody will > have extended the "configuration" with its own functions and somebody > wil

Bug#665942: ITP: ruby-capistrano-colors -- Capistrano helper for colorizing output

2012-03-27 Thread Taku YASUI
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Taku YASUI * Package name: ruby-capistrano-colors Version : 0.5.5 Upstream Author : Mathias Stjernstrom * URL : https://github.com/stjernstrom/capistrano_colors * License : MIT Programming Lang: Ruby Description :

Re: init systems and Policy

2012-03-27 Thread Simon McVittie
On 27/03/12 09:31, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > dh_installinit(1) in unstable already prefers > debian/package.upstart to debian/package.init and doesn't install > both when both are present. Right, that'd have to be reverted or otherwise avoided to support Upstart being optional. I still prefer th

Re: init systems and Policy

2012-03-27 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:48:12AM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 14:31 +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 09:25:17AM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > > > Ubuntu's version of debhelper includes changes to maintainer scripts to > > > avoid calling update

Bug#665941: ITP: ruby-capistrano-colors -- Capistrano helper for colorizing output

2012-03-27 Thread Taku YASUI
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Taku YASUI * Package name: ruby-capistrano-colors Version : 0.5.5 Upstream Author : Mathias Stjernstrom * URL : https://github.com/stjernstrom/capistrano_colors * License : MIT Programming Lang: Ruby Description :

Re: init systems and Policy

2012-03-27 Thread Svante Signell
On Tue, 2012-03-27 at 14:31 +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 09:25:17AM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > > Ubuntu's version of debhelper includes changes to maintainer scripts to > > avoid calling update-rc.d for sysvinit scripts when there is a > > corresponding Upstart job

Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over

2012-03-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 08:36:58AM +0100, David Banks wrote: > As a post-script, although I am sad to see this furore, I am selfishly > happy to see my package finally get some attention after languishing in > -mentors for months and months. ;) I think Christine sponsoring your package would be

Re: usefulness of ITPs (Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over)

2012-03-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 05:06:55PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" writes: > > e) useful to prevent a duplicate work. > > Pointless if the package is uploaded the moment the BTS responds with > the bug number for the ITP, which was the hypotetical. That was Joey's hypo

Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over

2012-03-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 05:11:54AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Chris Knadle writes: > > There's a flip-side to this story, which is what happens when an ITP is > > filed > > and left-for-dead. This then turns into a situation where a prospective > > new > > packager then needs to fig

Bug#665939: ITP: ruby-capistrano-colors -- Capistrano helper for colorizing output

2012-03-27 Thread Taku YASUI
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Taku YASUI * Package name: ruby-capistrano-colors Version : 0.5.5 Upstream Author : Mathias Stjernstrom * URL : https://github.com/stjernstrom/capistrano_colors * License : MIT Programming Lang: Ruby Description :

Re: init systems and Policy

2012-03-27 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 09:25:17AM +0100, Simon McVittie wrote: > Ubuntu's version of debhelper includes changes to maintainer scripts to > avoid calling update-rc.d for sysvinit scripts when there is a > corresponding Upstart job, from which I infer that Upstart does not do > the same as systemd?

Re: init systems and Policy

2012-03-27 Thread Simon McVittie
On 27/03/12 07:20, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: >> It is not clear to me the status of similar policy work for systemd, >> although I see that systemd maintainers are participating in >> #591791. Again, if you're interested in Debian switch to systemd, >> please contribute to that work rather than arguin

Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over

2012-03-27 Thread David Banks
Hi list, On 25/03/12 21:00, Joey Hess wrote: > The appropriate thing to do when confronted with a months-old ITP > for a package with the same content or name as your package is almost > certianly to ignore old "intent" and get on with it. In the specific case of mosh, I have posted three RFS mes