usefulness of ITPs (Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over)

2012-03-25 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
I disagree almost completely. On 2012-03-25 16:00, Joey Hess wrote: > But still nothing. ITP is more often than not a pointless bureaucracy. No, it's not nothing, and it's not a pointless bureaucracy. Filing an ITP shows your intent to a hundreds of developers, which is: a) useful for the ITP ow

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-25 Thread Martin Wuertele
* Uoti Urpala [2012-03-23 19:44]: > IMO your upstart advocacy and anti-systemd FUD crosses the line between > having your own opinions and having your own facts. Could you please mind your words. Your style of discussion is very hostile! There was neither FUD nor advocacy in Steves mail and no

Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over

2012-03-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Chris Knadle writes: > On Sunday, March 25, 2012 19:20:10, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Joey Hess writes: > ... >> > I don't completly boycott filing ITP bugs. I've filed at least three this >> > decade; two for packages I could not immediatly upload due to a >> > copyright issue, and one for

Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over

2012-03-25 Thread Chris Knadle
On Sunday, March 25, 2012 19:20:10, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Joey Hess writes: ... > > I don't completly boycott filing ITP bugs. I've filed at least three this > > decade; two for packages I could not immediatly upload due to a > > copyright issue, and one for a package that had an independe

Re: summer of code 2013 proposal

2012-03-25 Thread Luke Faraone
Hi Henri, On 24/03/12 06:29, Henri Le Foll wrote: > A Team field should be added to debian/control. (and also to the .dsc) > === > >- I hope every package will one day belong to a team. > >- I think that each package in

Re: Bug#631139: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over

2012-03-25 Thread Luke Faraone
On 25/03/12 16:31, Christoph Egger wrote: > Hi! > > Christine Spang writes: >> I'll talk to David and sponsor his upload if we can agree on an >> alternate name. > > Make sure to also get the binary renamed (though the scheme one is used > in shebangs since nearlly half a decade). If its been u

Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over

2012-03-25 Thread Joey Hess
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > There might be a good reason why the ITP is staled, like your own > example with copyright issues. What would you say if someone else just > ignored your ITP and uploaded the package without clearing up the > copyright issues or even uploading a different package hijac

Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over

2012-03-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Joey Hess writes: > Christoph Egger wrote: >> Christoph Egger writes: >> > Read Policy 5.1 again >> >> Well right, that's devref, clicked on the wrong link but still > > But still nothing. ITP is more often than not a pointless bureaucracy. > The turnaround time for packaging the average packag

Re: Bug#631139: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over

2012-03-25 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 03/25/2012 10:31 PM, Christoph Egger wrote: > Hi! > > Christine Spang writes: >> I'll talk to David and sponsor his upload if we can agree on an >> alternate name. > > Make sure to also get the binary renamed (though the scheme one is used > in shebangs since nearlly half a decade). I think

Re: Bug#631139: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over

2012-03-25 Thread Christoph Egger
Hi! Christine Spang writes: > I'll talk to David and sponsor his upload if we can agree on an > alternate name. Make sure to also get the binary renamed (though the scheme one is used in shebangs since nearlly half a decade). Regards Christoph -- 9FED 5C6C E206 B70A 5857 70CA 9655 22B9

Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over

2012-03-25 Thread Joey Hess
Christoph Egger wrote: > Christoph Egger writes: > > Read Policy 5.1 again > > Well right, that's devref, clicked on the wrong link but still But still nothing. ITP is more often than not a pointless bureaucracy. The turnaround time for packaging the average package is less than the turnaround t

Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over

2012-03-25 Thread Christine Spang
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 09:15:47PM +0200, Christoph Egger wrote: > Christoph Egger writes: > > Read Policy 5.1 again > > Well right, that's devref, clicked on the wrong link but still Right, the developer's reference isn't policy. Forcing the creation of a WNPP bug for a package that's already re

Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over

2012-03-25 Thread Joey Hess
Christoph Egger wrote: > Read Policy 5.1 again > > Assuming no one else is already working on your prospective package, > you must then submit a bug report (Section 7.1, “Bug reporting”) > against the pseudo-package wnpp describing your plan to create a new > package, including, but not li

Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over

2012-03-25 Thread Christine Spang
On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 09:14:42PM +0200, Christoph Egger wrote: > Christoph, please My bad---please excuse my brain's autocompletion; Christopher is a much more common name in the US. > There's a RFS from February I did miss that. I do suspect that the fact that no one has sponsored that pack

Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over

2012-03-25 Thread Christoph Egger
Christoph Egger writes: > Read Policy 5.1 again Well right, that's devref, clicked on the wrong link but still > Assuming no one else is already working on your prospective package, > you must then submit a bug report (Section 7.1, “Bug reporting”) > against the pseudo-package wnpp describ

Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over

2012-03-25 Thread Christoph Egger
Hi! Christine Spang writes: > hi Christopher, Christoph, please > On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 08:22:22PM +0200, Christoph Egger wrote: >> Hi! >> >> The `mosh` you quote reads >> >> mosh - Mobile shell that supports roaming and intelligent local echo >> >> This is something totaly different from

Re: mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over

2012-03-25 Thread Christine Spang
hi Christopher, On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 08:22:22PM +0200, Christoph Egger wrote: > Hi! > > The `mosh` you quote reads > > mosh - Mobile shell that supports roaming and intelligent local echo > > This is something totaly different from > > mosh - fast R6RS Scheme interpreter I propose that t

mosh ITP not done, just package name taken over

2012-03-25 Thread Christoph Egger
Hi! The `mosh` you quote reads mosh - Mobile shell that supports roaming and intelligent local echo This is something totaly different from mosh - fast R6RS Scheme interpreter which this bug is about. Additionally I find it highly inappropriate for someone to take a package name with an ope

Bug#665717: ITP: y-u-no-validate -- Iceweasel extension to make security exceptions temporary by default

2012-03-25 Thread Jakub Wilk
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jakub Wilk * Package name: y-u-no-validate Version : 2012032401 Upstream Author : Marcin Szewczyk * URL : https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/y-u-no-validate/ * License : GPL-3 Programming Lang: JavaScript