Re: Link-Time Optimisation

2012-03-02 Thread Aron Xu
Hi Thorsten, You might be interested in reading this thread: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/06/msg00149.html Activating LTO by default seems not to be a reasonable idea (reasons are in the given thread), but if maintainer of a package see it's appropriate then he can use it in the pack

Bug#661972: ITP: compass-h5bp-plugin -- Compass extension for Html5 Boilerplate

2012-03-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonas Smedegaard * Package name: compass-h5bp-plugin Version : 0.0.5 Upstream Author : Peter Gumeson * URL : https://github.com/sporkd/compass-h5bp * License : Expat Programming Lang: SCSS Description : Compass e

Re: leaks in our only-signed-software fortress

2012-03-02 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 19:50 -0500, Michael Gilbert wrote: > But anyway, I think to get anywhere you'll need to help get Debian > policy 2.2.1 clarified for these kind of conditions. Then you'll be > able to submit bugs with appropriate RC severity so they'll have to be > handled. Phew,.. changing

Re: leaks in our only-signed-software fortress

2012-03-02 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Tue, 2012-02-21 at 16:59 -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Sadly, I think this is more propaganda and wishful thinking than > reality. And if I'm going to badmouth somebody, I'll badmouth myself. I guess you're right, that for large software it's difficult to impossible for the maintainer to really f

Re: Enabling hardened build flags for Wheezy

2012-03-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Kees Cook writes: > I'm not sure -- I'd like it out of hardening-includes just so that the > whole hardening-wrapper source package can be deprecated, but lintian > needs to have a Depend on whatever ships hardening-check. I think it > might be rather extreme to have lintian depend on devscripts,

Re: Enabling hardened build flags for Wheezy

2012-03-02 Thread Kees Cook
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 07:25:25PM +0100, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > Kees Cook schrieb: > > In the mean time, I'll continue to work on the crappy > > heuristic checks. ;) > > Shall we move hardening-check to devscripts, now that > dpkg-buildflags slowly trickles into standard Debian > developme

Re: Enabling hardened build flags for Wheezy

2012-03-02 Thread Kees Cook
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 07:41:25PM +0100, Julian Taylor wrote: > On 03/02/2012 05:53 PM, Kees Cook wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 09:12:16AM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 09:58:23PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > >>> Kees Cook writes: > >>> > Speaking to the false p

Re: Do not use tabs in /etc/init.d/[script]

2012-03-02 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2012-03-02, Salvo Tomaselli wrote: >> Please, let's not get into this debate. > so let's obey some unkown person, for unknown reasons? Yeah sounds > reasonable. Could you please stop feeding the troll, thanks. Kind regards Philipp kern -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists

Link-Time Optimisation

2012-03-02 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Hi all, has anyone ever wondered about adoption of LTO in Debian? I’ve been using -fwhole-program --combine since GCC supported it somewhat reliably (with a fallback as they have broken it regularily at least three times) in mksh, and now several of my packages try -flto=jobserver with a fallback

Re: Do not use tabs in /etc/init.d/[script]

2012-03-02 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
In data Friday 02 March 2012 16:38:37, martin f krafft ha scritto: > also sprach Samuel Thibault [2012.03.02.1633 +0100]: > > > It can make your scripts a bit more readable for all users. > > > > Why? > > Please, let's not get into this debate. so let's obey some unkown person, for unknown reaso

Re: Enabling hardened build flags for Wheezy

2012-03-02 Thread Julian Taylor
On 03/02/2012 05:53 PM, Kees Cook wrote: > On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 09:12:16AM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 09:58:23PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >>> Kees Cook writes: >>> Speaking to the false positives problem, I've discussed with some people the idea of having b

Re: Enabling hardened build flags for Wheezy

2012-03-02 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Kees Cook schrieb: > In the mean time, I'll continue to work on the crappy > heuristic checks. ;) Shall we move hardening-check to devscripts, now that dpkg-buildflags slowly trickles into standard Debian development practice? Cheers, Moritz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-

Re: Enabling hardened build flags for Wheezy

2012-03-02 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Russ Allbery schrieb: > Paul Wise writes: > >> Personally I think this is completely the wrong approach to take for >> compiler hardening flags. The flags should be enabled by default in >> upstream GCC and disabled by upstream software where they result in >> problems. > > If we had followed tha

Re: Enabling hardened build flags for Wheezy

2012-03-02 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Nikolaus Rath schrieb: > Moritz Muehlenhoff writes: >> Hi, >> >> dpkg-buildflags allows a uniform setting of default build flags for >> code written in C and C++. >> >> Using dpkg-build-flags in your rules files has a number of benefits: >>[...] > > Should packages of Python extensions written i

Re: Enabling hardened build flags for Wheezy

2012-03-02 Thread Kees Cook
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 09:12:16AM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 09:58:23PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Kees Cook writes: > > > > > Speaking to the false positives problem, I've discussed with some people > > > the idea of having build flags be included in some sort of EL

Re: Summary: dpkg shared / reference counted files and version match

2012-03-02 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Jakub Wilk dixit: >> * binNMUs for the same version cannot be co-installed anyway as their >> changelogs differ. >> ↓ >> That could be “fixed” by using the same email address and a hardcoded >> date, or not including the binNMU entry at all, or moving that entry to a new >> field, etc. All of whic

Re: Teams in changelog trailers

2012-03-02 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
On 03/02/2012 05:17 PM, Jakub Wilk wrote: > To summarize the discussion: while there is some doubt about how the > changelog for sponsored upload should best look like, it seems > consensual that team names should not be used in chanelog trailers. > > What is the best place to document this consen

OT Re: Do not use tabs in /etc/init.d/[script]

2012-03-02 Thread Alexey Bearded
Dear Marcin, I will. Sorry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAFoacuqeDRn5_EQrFa8HAYk4gn60UsBZ2+aY8mVEG1=4qg6...@mail.gmail.com

Re: Teams in changelog trailers

2012-03-02 Thread Jakub Wilk
To summarize the discussion: while there is some doubt about how the changelog for sponsored upload should best look like, it seems consensual that team names should not be used in chanelog trailers. What is the best place to document this consensus? Policy or Developer's Reference? -- Jakub

OT Re: Do not use tabs in /etc/init.d/[script]

2012-03-02 Thread Marcin Kulisz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/03/12 15:01, Alexey Bearded wrote: > Dear Developers and Maintainers, > > Please, do not use tabs for indentation in init.d scripts. > > It can make your scripts a bit more readable for all users. > > Thank you! Dear Alexey, please stop usi

Re: Do not use tabs in /etc/init.d/[script]

2012-03-02 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Samuel Thibault [2012.03.02.1633 +0100]: > > It can make your scripts a bit more readable for all users. > > Why? Please, let's not get into this debate. -- .''`. martin f. krafft Related projects: : :' : proud Debian developer http://debiansystem.info `. `

Re: Do not use tabs in /etc/init.d/[script]

2012-03-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Alexey Bearded, le Fri 02 Mar 2012 17:01:25 +0200, a écrit : > Please, do not use tabs for indentation in init.d scripts. > > It can make your scripts a bit more readable for all users. Why? Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscrib

Re: Do not use tabs in /etc/init.d/[script]

2012-03-02 Thread Patrick Matthäi
Am 02.03.2012 16:01, schrieb Alexey Bearded: Dear Developers and Maintainers, Please, do not use tabs for indentation in init.d scripts. It can make your scripts a bit more readable for all users. I am writing init scripts in Debian with tabs, so on: s/all/some/ Cheers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Do not use tabs in /etc/init.d/[script]

2012-03-02 Thread Alexey Bearded
Dear Developers and Maintainers, Please, do not use tabs for indentation in init.d scripts. It can make your scripts a bit more readable for all users. Thank you!

Re: speed up /etc/cron.d/php5

2012-03-02 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/02/2012 03:13 PM, dmitrijs.samson...@gmail.com wrote: > Hello, everybody! > I have server with php storing sessions in files. > Due to Debian changes session aging is managed by cron /etc/cron.d/ php5. > Which take a looong time (10-20m) to accomplish in my situation due to high > session co

Re: Bug#661840: ITP: rfcdiff -- IETF Internet Draft Difference Tool

2012-03-02 Thread Andrey Ponomarenko
Scott Kitterman wrote: On Thursday, March 01, 2012 09:49:24 PM Thomas Koch wrote: Scott Kitterman: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Scott Kitterman * Package name: rfcdiff Version : 1.41 Upstream Author : Henrik Levkowetz * URL : http://tools.ietf.org/to

Re: Bug#661840: ITP: rfcdiff -- IETF Internet Draft Difference Tool

2012-03-02 Thread Andrey Ponomarenko
Scott Kitterman wrote: On Thursday, March 01, 2012 09:49:24 PM Thomas Koch wrote: Scott Kitterman: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Scott Kitterman * Package name: rfcdiff Version : 1.41 Upstream Author : Henrik Levkowetz * URL : http://tools.ietf.org/to

Re: Systemwide desktop icons

2012-03-02 Thread Neil Williams
On Fri, 2 Mar 2012 12:18:07 +0400 Alexander GQ Gerasiov wrote: > I need to setup some software which need to be available for all users > as desktop link. The icon itself often ends up in /usr/share/pixmaps/ > For kde3 (yep, we're still using it) there > was /usr/share/apps/kdesktop/Desktop di

Systemwide desktop icons

2012-03-02 Thread Alexander GQ Gerasiov
Hi there. I need to setup some software which need to be available for all users as desktop link. For kde3 (yep, we're still using it) there was /usr/share/apps/kdesktop/Desktop dir, where I could put .desktop files. But I also want Gnome and XFCE users to have such links, and can't find any sta

Re: Linux kernel hardening - link restrictions

2012-03-02 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Freitag, 2. März 2012, Kees Cook wrote: > > + * The new kernel version includes security restrictions on links, > > +These restrictions may cause some legitimate programs to fail. > > +In particular, if the 'at' package is installed, you should either: > > +- Upgrade it to at l

Re: Enabling hardened build flags for Wheezy

2012-03-02 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 09:58:23PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Kees Cook writes: > > > Speaking to the false positives problem, I've discussed with some people > > the idea of having build flags be included in some sort of ELF > > comment-like area that can be examined. That way it's becomes tri