Chow Loong Jin writes:
> On 29/01/2012 08:19, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> Oh, hey, indeed. Right, I didn't realize the implication of what you
>> were saying.
>> So... what if dpkg-gensymbols implicitly marked all weak symbols as
>> optional and didn't care if they disappeared? Would that make sens
On 29/01/2012 08:19, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Chow Loong Jin writes:
>
>> $ nm -CD libfoo.so | awk '$2 == "W" {print;}'
>
>> I mentioned that the inlined symbols are all weak symbols. If the
>> library you're maintaining doesn't do use __attribute__((weak)), then
>> all the weak symbols present sh
Chow Loong Jin writes:
> $ nm -CD libfoo.so | awk '$2 == "W" {print;}'
> I mentioned that the inlined symbols are all weak symbols. If the
> library you're maintaining doesn't do use __attribute__((weak)), then
> all the weak symbols present should be inlined and optional.
Oh, hey, indeed. Ri
On 29/01/2012 07:48, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Chow Loong Jin writes:
>> On 29/01/2012 07:18, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
>>> What I'm seeing (I think; I'm not positive) is that an inline function
>>> (generally inlined because it's defined inside the class definition,
>>> not due to explicit keywords) app
Chow Loong Jin writes:
> On 29/01/2012 07:18, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> What I'm seeing (I think; I'm not positive) is that an inline function
>> (generally inlined because it's defined inside the class definition,
>> not due to explicit keywords) appears and disappears from the export
>> list of th
On 29/01/2012 07:18, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Chow Loong Jin writes:
>> On 29/01/2012 06:20, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
>>> Right, I think Qt is quite possibly the best maintained C++ library of
>>> significant size out there. I'm not saying that the benefit isn't
>>> worth it for fairly well-maintained
"Bernhard R. Link" writes:
> * Russ Allbery [120127 22:30]:
>> This is probably the best summary of why a symbols file might be
>> useful. It helps catch cases where ABI compatibility is not maintained
>> without people being aware that this broke.
> On the other hand a symbols file can also m
Chow Loong Jin writes:
> On 29/01/2012 06:20, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> Right, I think Qt is quite possibly the best maintained C++ library of
>> significant size out there. I'm not saying that the benefit isn't
>> worth it for fairly well-maintained libraries, *particularly* if they
>> do symbol e
On 29/01/2012 06:20, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Sune Vuorela writes:
>> On 2012-01-28, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
>>> 5. It's still not clear that the benefit is worth the amount of effort,
>>>since I expect most C++ libraries to require frequent SONAME changes
>>>anyway, which means that the long
Steve McIntyre writes:
> Russ Allbery wrote:
>> And indeed, this process has already broken. Take a look at:
>>
>> https://buildd.debian.org/status/logs.php?pkg=opensaml2&arch=ia64&ver=2.4.3-3
> To be honest, for me this thread is just confirming my
> prejudice^Wjudgement that C++ is just a bad
Sune Vuorela writes:
> On 2012-01-28, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> 5. It's still not clear that the benefit is worth the amount of effort,
>>since I expect most C++ libraries to require frequent SONAME changes
>>anyway, which means that the long-term binary compatibility angle of
> Qt has kep
On Jan 28, Philip Hands wrote:
> Marvelous -- I particularly like his "Separate /usr has become
> increasingly unsupported anyway." which reminds me of the argument for
> Software Patents in Europe, which is that the EPO have been issuing
> Software Patents in defiance of the law for ages, so cle
On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 21:41:37 +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Jan 27, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>
> > Do I understand you correctly that an empty configuration file in /etc
> > will override its 'full' equivalent in /usr? I.e., just an empty file
> > full of comments saying "this is what you can do
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On Jan 27, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Do I understand you correctly that an empty configuration file in /etc
> will override its 'full' equivalent in /usr? I.e., just an empty file
> full of comments saying "this is what you can do with this file" will
> break some things?
This is correct.
> If so
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On 2012-01-28, Russ Allbery wrote:
> 5. It's still not clear that the benefit is worth the amount of effort,
>since I expect most C++ libraries to require frequent SONAME changes
>anyway, which means that the long-term binary compatibility angle of
Qt has kept binary compatibility since 4
On 28.01.2012 17:27, Alessio Treglia wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Michael Biebl wrote:
>> If you are talking about pam_usb 0.5.0 as hosted on sf.net, then I'd
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>
> Are you
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Hi Michael,
On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Michael Biebl wrote:
> If you are talking about pam_usb 0.5.0 as hosted on sf.net, then I'd
> like to point out, that it still uses hal, which has been deprecated for
> quite some time.
Are you sure? From upstream changelog:
> * 0.5.0
> - Migrated th
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Hello Folks,
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Russ Allbery wrote:
>Russ Allbery writes:
>
>And indeed, this process has already broken. Take a look at:
>
>https://buildd.debian.org/status/logs.php?pkg=opensaml2&arch=ia64&ver=2.4.3-3
To be honest, for me this thread is just confirming my
prejudice^Wjudgement that C++ is just a bad choice of
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* Russ Allbery [120127 22:30]:
> > Symbol files are nice if you have a upstream who doesn't always take
> > binary compatibility that serious (which is probably the case for 75% of
> > upstreamers). Then you have a list that helps you finding out.
>
> This is probably the best summary of why a sym
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Russ Allbery writes:
> However, it does have some problems, some obvious, and some more subtle.
> Here's a list of the issues that I see:
> 1. It feels like this symbols file is still likely to be fragile. While
>pkg-kde-tools detects a *lot* of template instances and marks them
>option
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