Thomas Goirand writes:
> On 01/01/2012 01:49 AM, brian m. carlson wrote:
>> So the only sane thing to do is not change the default, ever.
> The other sane way is to mark files not in /etc as conffiles. It
> semantically sux a bit, but if we have no choice because of upstream
> decisions (which
On 01/01/2012 01:49 AM, brian m. carlson wrote:
> So the only sane thing to do is not change
> the default, ever.
>
The other sane way is to mark files not in /etc as conffiles.
It semantically sux a bit, but if we have no choice because
of upstream decisions (which we don't have enough time to
On 12/31/2011 11:54 AM, Josh Triplett wrote:
> Almost all of those bug reports went away once udev moved
> the default location of distro-installed rules to /lib/udev/rules.d
> rather than /etc/udev/rules.d.
>
Do you mean it went away, because in /usr/udev/rules.d it's not in
/etc, which meaning
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 8:30 AM, brian m. carlson wrote:
> Right. But if the sysadmin customizes any part of that configuration—
> even something completely unrelated—which is very likely, then he or she
> will be prompted. So if the defaults are fine, then the defaults are
> likely to be fine in
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 08:19:47PM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> If the admin has not changed the config, dpkg and ucf will happily
> replace the old config with the new one, no questions asked, even
> when the config is in /etc. So no change there.
Right. But if the sysadmin customizes any part
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 05:49:12PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
> It also either (a) prevents upstream from ever changing that default or
> (b) silently breaks packages for the user. If option foo is set to bar
> in the upstream configuration and then upstream changes it to baz, the
> package br
Russ Allbery debian.org> writes:
> But right now with configuration in /etc if you have changed *any*
> configuration setting, you then get prompted for *all* configuration
> changes in the package, which I think is Enrico's point. And I agree, I
> kind of like that behavior. Configuration setti
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 07:54:34PM -0800, Josh Triplett wrote:
> The numerous upstreams which follow this model introduced it
> specifically *because* of distributions and package management, which
> they specifically had in mind as a design constraint. The "search path"
> behavior, along with the
On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 12:30:10PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote:
> Evgeni Golov wrote:
> > grub2:
> > loopback loop /debian-7.0-amd64-NETINST-findiso.iso
> > set root=(loop)
> > linux /install.amd/vmlinux findiso
> > initrd /install.amd/initrd.gz
> > boot
>
> So for this to work, the user has to go
"Bernhard R. Link" writes:
> My experience is rather that people usually stick to their core packages
> as personal property and won't except patches to make them more well
> behaved.
That experience aside, we're not talking about patches here, assuming
Marco's description of the situation is co
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Kouhei Maeda
* Package name: python-pystache
Version : 0.3.1
Upstream Author : Chris Wanstrath
* URL : http://github.com/defunkt/pystache
* License : MIT
Programming Lang: Python
Description : Mustache is a frame
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Michael Bunk
* Package name: oak
Version : 1.5.0
Upstream Author : James M. Kretchmar
* URL : http://www.ktools.org/oak/
* License : BSD-2-Clause
Programming Lang: C
Description : System Log Reporting Tool
Oak c
Evgeni Golov wrote:
> How to use:
> boot as cdrom
>
> OR
> grub2:
> loopback loop /debian-7.0-amd64-NETINST-findiso.iso
> set root=(loop)
> linux /install.amd/vmlinux findiso
> initrd /install.amd/initrd.gz
> boot
>
> OR
> kvm:
> kvm -kernel dest/cdrom/vmlinuz -initrd dest/cdrom/initrd.gz
Le samedi 31 décembre 2011 à 14:21 +0100, Svante Signell a écrit :
> Currently I have 164 packages from unstable not being upgraded since I
> don't want to dist-upgrade. Will a majority of these packages be
> installed after installing gnome-session-fallback. Packages I want
> upgraded are e.g. br
On Sat, 2011-12-31 at 01:00 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le vendredi 30 dcembre 2011 19:20 +0100, Svante Signell a crit :
> > I'm very reluctant to upgrade to gnome3, I have it on one box, and
> > don't like it.
...
> > Looks like there is a gnome-session-fallback similar to gnome 2
> > avai
Package: wnpp
Owner: Youhei SASAKI
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: fonts-migmix
Version : 20111002-1
Upstream Author : Itou Hiroki
* URL or Web page : http://mix-mplus-ipa.sourceforge.jp/
* License : M+FONTS and IPA-1
Description : High quality japanese fonts bas
On Fri, Dec 30, 2011 at 11:09:37PM -0500, Joseph Nahmias wrote:
> * Package name: edgar
> Version : 0.94
> Upstream Author : Richard Sweeney
> * URL : http://www.parallelrealities.co.uk/p/legend-of-edgar.html
> * License : GPL2+
Please note that not everything
Le samedi 31 décembre 2011 à 10:23 +0100, Bernhard R. Link a écrit :
> If people maintain some core piece of software and want to decide what
> the package looks like, listen to what other people want.
> If you want to use "too much work" as excuse, then file a RFA.
Because it’s well-known that f
* Fernando Lemos [111231 04:54]:
> Are you guys applying for maintainership for this huge delta you want
> to introduce between upstream and us? Are you becoming new, reputable
> upstreams for that forked software? If not, please refrain from
> telling people what to do.
My experience is rather t
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