Re: Semantic change for dpkg triggers?

2011-06-02 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Thu, 02 Jun 2011, Ian Jackson wrote: > If a new behaviour is needed, it should have a new name. Otherwise > you break existing packages. I know this. This is precisely why I'm asking the question of which packages require this behaviour. If none or very few require it, I might consider do

Bug#629029: general: Screen scrambled up after hibernation wake up

2011-06-02 Thread etienne
Package: general Severity: important Hello, after the 2nd or 3rd wake up from hibernation, the screen is all scrambled and I have to reboot the computer (maybe killing X would be sufficient but in either case, my session goes down the drain). Etienne P.S. Thanks for making Debian!

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2011-06-02 Thread Texas Invitation
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Re: Uploading to multiple distros

2011-06-02 Thread Evan Broder
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Robert Collins wrote: > On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Martin Owens wrote: >> Why not just make ppa uploading simpler at the same time? (if you can >> change the changelog file processing): >> >> picocom (1.4-1) debian:unstable oneiric natty maverick lucid; >> urg

Re: Uploading to multiple distros

2011-06-02 Thread Robert Collins
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Martin Owens wrote: > On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 13:20 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: >> For this to work I think the "suite" target in the changelog entry >> should be qualified by the distro, so you could say (picking a random >> example): >> >>   picocom (1.4-1) debian:uns

Re: Uploading to multiple distros

2011-06-02 Thread Brian May
On 3 June 2011 01:02, Cristian Henzel wrote: > For the changelog part, I thought *not* requiring a specific suite would > also be > a good compromise. Why do we even bother putting the suite into the changelog? I don't see the point myself. I believe it is the DISTRIBUTION header in the change

Re: Uploading to multiple distros

2011-06-02 Thread Andres Rodriguez
> > > I handle this using a set of scripts in Ubuntu's bikeshed package: > * http://manpg.es/release-build > * http://manpg.es/release +1! I have been using these scripts extensively to do my releases, and preparing the packages to upload them into the archive or PPA's. Specifically for TestDri

Bug#629001: ITP: libxml-atom-microformats-perl -- parse microformats in Atom content

2011-06-02 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jonas Smedegaard * Package name: libxml-atom-microformats-perl Version : 0.002 Upstream Author : Toby Inkster * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/XML-Atom-Microformats/ * License : Artistic or GPL-1+ Programming Lang:

Re: Uploading to multiple distros

2011-06-02 Thread Barry Warsaw
On Jun 02, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Peter Samuelson wrote: >Since syncs from Debian are actually supposed to be the majority of >packages in Ubuntu anyway, why not just do that - a real sync, not a >fake simultaneous one. I don't live in the Ubuntu dev universe, but >given how common of an operation th

Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches

2011-06-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, June 02, 2011 02:17:14 PM Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Scott Kitterman writes: > > If 3.0 (quilt) didn't apply patches by default I'd have no reason not to > > just use it. Keeping local_options in a VCS is a bit of a workaround > > for this, but it seems wrong to have a persistent

Re: Uploading to multiple distros

2011-06-02 Thread Dustin Kirkland
On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 8:20 AM, Ian Jackson wrote: ... > One thing I have done a few times is to upload the very same package > simultaneously to (say) Debian and Ubuntu. > > Where the package wants to be identical, and the person doing the > upload is the same, it would be nice if this could be m

Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches

2011-06-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Scott Kitterman writes: > If 3.0 (quilt) didn't apply patches by default I'd have no reason not to just > use it. Keeping local_options in a VCS is a bit of a workaround for this, > but > it seems wrong to have a persistent diff between what's in the VCS for a > package and what's in the arc

Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches

2011-06-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Stefano Rivera writes: > Hi Scott (2011.06.02_16:30:13_+0200) >> Keeping local_options in a VCS is a bit of a workaround for this > ... >> I'd really like to have a way to just control this globally on my system. > > +1 to that. Esp for team-maintained packages where people have different > prefe

Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches

2011-06-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Charles Plessy writes: > Le Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 11:11:30AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : >> >> apt-get source foo >> work on package >> debuild >> test >> # Optionally: Just to be nice and fill out the header >> # This would be improved by the --record-changes discussed earlier >> edit

Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches

2011-06-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Guido Günther writes: > On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 11:11:30AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Scott Kitterman writes: >> >> > On Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:26:59 AM sean finney wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 02:39:42PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> >> > And note that as mainta

British Chambers of Commerce Email: Strike action in current economic climate misguided

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Re: Uploading to multiple distros

2011-06-02 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 01:54:37PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Iain Lane writes ("Re: Uploading to multiple distros"): > > For "normal" syncs we generally advise not using syncpackage, but it > > might make sense when doing simultaneous uploads. > > Hrm. So syncpackage generates a .changes for u

Re: Uploading to multiple distros

2011-06-02 Thread Iain Lane
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 01:54:37PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: [...] Hrm. So syncpackage generates a .changes for uploading to ubuntu from the .dsc (which presumably came out of the Debian build). That does mean though that the Ubuntu target suite is not visible in the changelog of the ultimate U

Re: Uploading to multiple distros

2011-06-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 03:19:14PM +0200, Stefano Rivera wrote: > Hi Ian (2011.06.02_14:54:37_+0200) > > I wasn't aware of syncpackage. The manpage is quite discouraging. > It's discouraging for a reason, the Ubuntu archive admins would prefer > that we sync packages through them if possible (whi

Re: Uploading to multiple distros

2011-06-02 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Ian Jackson] > Hrm. So syncpackage generates a .changes for uploading to ubuntu from > the .dsc (which presumably came out of the Debian build). That does > mean though that the Ubuntu target suite is not visible in the > changelog of the ultimate Ubuntu package. And if the package is not > ac

Re: Uploading to multiple distros

2011-06-02 Thread Cristian Henzel
I had this very same discussion with another packager and we came to the same conclusion: changing stuff around a bit to make uploading to multiple distributions easier, would greatly help packagers IMO. One thing I would welcome, if possible, would be conditional build-deps, so that you can set d

Re: Uploading to multiple distros

2011-06-02 Thread Martin Owens
On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 13:20 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > For this to work I think the "suite" target in the changelog entry > should be qualified by the distro, so you could say (picking a random > example): > > picocom (1.4-1) debian:unstable ubuntu:oneiric; urgency=low > > * new upstream v

Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches

2011-06-02 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Scott (2011.06.02_16:30:13_+0200) > Keeping local_options in a VCS is a bit of a workaround for this ... > I'd really like to have a way to just control this globally on my system. +1 to that. Esp for team-maintained packages where people have different preferences, and QA work. SR -- Stefan

Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches

2011-06-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, June 02, 2011 05:11:30 AM Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Scott Kitterman writes: > > On Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:26:59 AM sean finney wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 02:39:42PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> > And note that as maintainer or for the VCS copy you can allw

Bug#628953: O: mercurial-buildpackage -- Utillities for maintaining a deb package in Hg repository

2011-06-02 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Native package written by yours truly. Pristine-tar part does not work anymore, reason unknown. Everything is written in haXe, which entails some problems wrt. Process control & input/output, and I have created a branch (combined-process-input-output) in which I ha

Bug#628948: O: haxe -- Compiler for the Web-oriented haXe programming language

2011-06-02 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Package in good shape, reposive upstream, although getting stable upstream sources is little tricky. The package has pseudo build failures on kFreeBSD because of the way disks are mounted on the buildds. I would suggest to simply exclude kFreeBSD to avoid this hass

Bug#628943: O: trayer -- lightweight GTK-based systray

2011-06-02 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Package in good shape, responsive (new) upstream. -- Jens Peter Secher, GPG fingerprint 0EE5978AFE63E8A1. A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion. Q. Why is top posting bad? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with

Bug#628942: O: sml-mode -- Emacs mode for Standard-ML programming

2011-06-02 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Package in good shape, very low upstream activity. -- Jens Peter Secher, GPG fingerprint 0EE5978AFE63E8A1. A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion. Q. Why is top posting bad? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org wit

Bug#628941: O: siggen -- Signal generation tools

2011-06-02 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Package in good shape, very low activity upstream. -- Jens Peter Secher, GPG fingerprint 0EE5978AFE63E8A1. A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion. Q. Why is top posting bad? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org wit

Bug#628939: O: neko -- Virtual machine (byte code), interpreter and compiler

2011-06-02 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Package in good shape, upstream responsive, low activity. -- Jens Peter Secher, GPG fingerprint 0EE5978AFE63E8A1. A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion. Q. Why is top posting bad? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.

Bug#628938: O: lua-mode -- Emacs mode for Lua programming

2011-06-02 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Package in good shape, unclear upstream development. -- Jens Peter Secher, GPG fingerprint 0EE5978AFE63E8A1. A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion. Q. Why is top posting bad? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org w

Bug#628937: O: libpam-ssh -- Use SSH keys to login and enable eg. single sign-on

2011-06-02 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Package: wnpp Severity: normal pam-ssh has unclear upstream development, has a lot of Debian changes, and in general need a firm hand. -- Jens Peter Secher, GPG fingerprint 0EE5978AFE63E8A1. A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion. Q. Why is top posting bad? -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: Uploading to multiple distros

2011-06-02 Thread William Grant
On 02/06/11 23:19, Stefano Rivera wrote: > [snip] >> One way to enable simultaneous uploads would be to arrange for >> dpkg-genchanges to filter out suites for "other" distros when >> generating the .changes file. Then you would have the same files >> being uploaded but two different .changes file

Bug#628936: O: libfile-ncopy-perl -- Perl library for extended file copy functionality

2011-06-02 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Package has not been touched for years, very low activity upstream. -- Jens Peter Secher, GPG fingerprint 0EE5978AFE63E8A1. A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion. Q. Why is top posting bad? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lis

Bug#628935: O: libcrypto++ -- C++ class library of cryptographic schemes

2011-06-02 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Package in good shape, upstream responsive and has a Debian guest account for debugging failures. -- Jens Peter Secher, GPG fingerprint 0EE5978AFE63E8A1. A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion. Q. Why is top posting bad? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, ema

Re: Uploading to multiple distros

2011-06-02 Thread Stefano Rivera
Hi Ian (2011.06.02_14:54:37_+0200) > I wasn't aware of syncpackage. The manpage is quite discouraging. It's discouraging for a reason, the Ubuntu archive admins would prefer that we sync packages through them if possible (which results in ~1 days wait). An API method for syncing (+ a button on la

Bug#628924: O: changetrack -- automatic log book, recording what files were changed

2011-06-02 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Package in good shape, very low maintenance. -- Jens Peter Secher, GPG fingerprint 0EE5978AFE63E8A1. A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion. Q. Why is top posting bad? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a su

Bug#628923: O: budy -- Binary Decision Diagram library

2011-06-02 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Package in good shape, very low activity. -- Jens Peter Secher, GPG fingerprint 0EE5978AFE63E8A1. A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion. Q. Why is top posting bad? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subje

Re: Uploading to multiple distros

2011-06-02 Thread Ian Jackson
Iain Lane writes ("Re: Uploading to multiple distros"): > You can do this already by using syncpackage(1) from ubuntu-dev-tools ? > I don't think the archive software looks at the changelog, but the > distribution in the changes file. I wasn't aware of syncpackage. The manpage is quite discoura

Bug#628920: O: asunder -- GTK Audio CD ripper and encoder

2011-06-02 Thread Jens Peter Secher
Package: wnpp Severity: normal Asunder is in good shape, upstream is responsive (and would like to not have his email made public). -- Jens Peter Secher, GPG fingerprint 0EE5978AFE63E8A1. A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion. Q. Why is top posting bad? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, e

Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches

2011-06-02 Thread Ian Jackson
Bernhard R. Link writes ("Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches"): > The more Debian packages you have seen, the more different ways you > have encountered and the less likely you are to be confused or to > forget to apply the patches before looking at the s

Re: Semantic change for dpkg triggers?

2011-06-02 Thread Ian Jackson
Raphael Hertzog writes ("Semantic change for dpkg triggers?"): > I am considering changing the default behaviour of dpkg triggers. [1] > Currently when a package activates a trigger (except if it uses > dpkg-trigger directly with the --no-await option, and that is a minority > of cases), the triger

Re: Uploading to multiple distros

2011-06-02 Thread Iain Lane
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 01:20:08PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: Didier Raboud writes ("Re: Color Management in Debian"): Given that Debian is currently not frozen (and that the Oneiric release will very probably happen before Wheezy's), I really think that not uploading those packages to Debian fir

Uploading to multiple distros

2011-06-02 Thread Ian Jackson
Didier Raboud writes ("Re: Color Management in Debian"): > Given that Debian is currently not frozen (and that the Oneiric > release will very probably happen before Wheezy's), I really think > that not uploading those packages to Debian first would be a shame, > as this would only mean doubling ef

Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches

2011-06-02 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 11:11:30AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : > > apt-get source foo > work on package > debuild > test > # Optionally: Just to be nice and fill out the header > # This would be improved by the --record-changes discussed earlier > edit debian/patches/debian-changes-versi

Bug#628915: ITP: doconce -- document once, include anywhere

2011-06-02 Thread Johannes Ring
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package name: doconce Version: 0.5 Upstream authors: Hans Petter Langtangen URL: http://doconce.googlecode.com/ License: BSD-3-clause Description: document once, include anywhere Doconce is two things: . 1. Doconce i

Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches

2011-06-02 Thread Guido Günther
On Thu, Jun 02, 2011 at 11:11:30AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Scott Kitterman writes: > > > On Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:26:59 AM sean finney wrote: > >> On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 02:39:42PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> > And note that as maintainer or for the VCS copy you ca

Re: Behaviour of dpkg-source with "3.0 (quilt)" and VCS and automatic patches

2011-06-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Scott Kitterman writes: > On Wednesday, June 01, 2011 10:26:59 AM sean finney wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 01, 2011 at 02:39:42PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> > And note that as maintainer or for the VCS copy you can allways >> > configure debian/soruce/local-options to unapply patches if you s