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Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-08 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 8 May 2011 22:36:20 +0200 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > The options are just passed on unchanged. No problem with that. Can > > still call ./configure directly. Maybe it wastes a little bit of time > > but if you're cross-building, you're using a really fast machine so > > this is hardly of c

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-08 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Bernhard R. Link schrieb: > Given that aclocal is part of automake that is not very surprising. > If you want to use it without automake, you could just add a single-line > Makefile.am with the needed data (without AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE in configure.ac > autoreconf will not call automake), but best

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-08 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Neil Williams schrieb: (forgot attachments) ... -- -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ phone: +49 36207 519931 email: weig...@metux.de mobile: +49 151 27565287 icq: 210169427 skype: n

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-08 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Neil Williams schrieb: > ./autogen.sh does not clean anything. Clarification: with "clean state" I meant a state of the tree where all the generated files (from autotools+friends) have been reliably regenerated afresh (no leftovers from previous runs). Removing temporary files from different

Re: Crypto consolidation in debian ?

2011-05-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 21:25 +0200, Arthur de Jong wrote: > On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 12:55 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > > It seems fedora is moving to nss for openldap > > I don't think it's completely free from the same kind of issues as > GNUTLS. For example, I recently came across this: > ht

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-08 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Enrico Weigelt [110508 21:45]: > Autoconf (w/o automake) offers no means to tell additional m4 > include pathes (eg. in configure.ac), so that just calling > autoreconf (w/o any additional parameters!) can do a full > regeneration all on its own. Given that aclocal is part of automake that is n

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-08 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Simon Josefsson schrieb: > >> The problem is that autoreconf offers NO command line options for you to > >> pass the required -I parameters for aclocal, nor is there a way to encode > >> that information in the one place where it could conveniently live > >> (configure.ac) AFAIK. > > > > So, mo

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-08 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Neil Williams schrieb: > > Which ones exactly (besides the usual autotools) ? > > bison, flex and a few others. Standard tools available on virtually any system that likes to build anything ... To make sure they're installed, use build-time dependencies. Done. > Also that certain stages of

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-08 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Simon McVittie schrieb: > As much as I wish this had been the convention, it isn't - the convention is > that autogen.sh *does* call ./configure (often with options suitable for > developers of the project, whereas the ./configure defaults are more suitable > for packagers). Actually, I dont

Re: Crypto consolidation in debian ?

2011-05-08 Thread Arthur de Jong
On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 12:55 +0200, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote: > It seems fedora is moving to nss for openldap I don't think it's completely free from the same kind of issues as GNUTLS. For example, I recently came across this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=701587 NSS (Network Securit

Re: Crypto consolidation in debian ?

2011-05-08 Thread Arthur de Jong
On Sun, 2011-05-01 at 14:08 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > If we could move to having a central service, rather than having every > process load in a pile of extra libraries, I would probably be in > favour of it. If would make some things, such as NSS queries inside > chroots, much more efficient an

Re: 0-day NMUs for RC bugs without activity for 7 days?

2011-05-08 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sat, 07 May 2011 15:08:37 +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > But I agree that this policy should not force maintainers of several > packages to ping their bug logs every 7 days, although at the very > minimum I do expect a maintainer to post to an RC bug log at least once > an "I'm on it" messa

Bug#626097: ITP: ruby-pgplot -- A Ruby interface to the PGPLOT graphics library

2011-05-08 Thread Youhei SASAKI
Package: wnpp Owner: Youhei SASAKI Severity: wishlist * Package name: ruby-pgplot Version : 0.1.3-1 Upstream Author : Masahiro TANAKA * URL or Web page : http://pgplot.rubyforge.org/ * License : Ruby's Description : A Ruby interface to the PGPLOT graphics library Ru

Re: wheel group

2011-05-08 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Steve Langasek (vor...@debian.org): > But I hope the login maintainers 'wontfix' any such bug report. This is a I suspect they would, yesbased on the advice of people they trust for such things..:-) (imho, such case is indeed something where the Technical Comittee has added value i

Bug#626087: ITP: tinarng -- Tina's (pseudo-) Random Number Generator Library

2011-05-08 Thread Torquil Macdonald Sørensen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Torquil Macdonald Sørensen" * Package name: tinarng Version : 4.12 Upstream Author : Heiko Bauke * URL : http://trng.berlios.de * License : BSD Programming Lang: C++ Description : Tina's (pseudo-) Random Number

Re: Privacy Extensions for Stateless Address Autoconfiguration in IPv6 in wheezy as default?

2011-05-08 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 17:56 +0200, Sven Hoexter wrote: > On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 05:33:42PM +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > > Hi, > > > i currently wonder if Debian should implement RFC 4941 as default for > > wheezy. > > I thought about this a few month ago and my proposal would've been to >

Re: Privacy Extensions for Stateless Address Autoconfiguration in IPv6 in wheezy as default?

2011-05-08 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On dim., 2011-05-08 at 17:56 +0200, Sven Hoexter wrote: > Beside that the default timeout setting for the dynamic address is something > to be discussed, I believe the default is about a week which is rather > long if you want to have a benefit over static assignment. After all the gain > of > ano

Re: Privacy Extensions for Stateless Address Autoconfiguration in IPv6 in wheezy as default?

2011-05-08 Thread Sven Hoexter
On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 05:33:42PM +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: Hi, > i currently wonder if Debian should implement RFC 4941 as default for > wheezy. I thought about this a few month ago and my proposal would've been to add an example in /etc/sysctl.conf. I'm not sure if we can or should dis

Privacy Extensions for Stateless Address Autoconfiguration in IPv6 in wheezy as default?

2011-05-08 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, i currently wonder if Debian should implement RFC 4941 as default for wheezy. Background: IPv6 configured via router advertisement will use the hardware address of the ethernet card to encode the IPv6 address. This raises privacy issues, such as being able to track each single device. I the

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-08 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, May 08, 2011 at 10:07:53AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit : > > I would be happy if we could stop discussing what today is just spilled milk, > given that one way or another this matter has been settled. To clarify, Enrico wrote that “the hands of FD were rather tied” by the 2008 GR, an

Processed: Re: Bug#616317: base: commit= ext3 mount option in fstab has no effect.

2011-05-08 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 616317 general Bug #616317 [base] base: commit= ext3 mount option in fstab has no effect. Bug reassigned from package 'base' to 'general'. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. -- 616317: http://bu

Re: Bug#616317: base: commit= ext3 mount option in fstab has no effect.

2011-05-08 Thread Amaya
reassign 616317 general thanks In http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=9;bug=616317 you said: > So I'm going to do the cowardly thing, and choose the third option, > which is to reassign this back to base, cc'ing debian-devel. I'm not > sure what the right thing is to do here, since

Re: New Packages generator

2011-05-08 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi again, Cyril Brulebois (08/05/2011): > is that a related breakage? > > [Can't debootstrap] > > Same happens with ftp{.fr,.uk,.de,}.debian.org; with i386 and amd64. Also, ftp.ch.d.o exhibited the infamous Hash Sum mismatches for the kfreebsd-i386 sid chroot on io.debian.net; switching to ftp.d

Re: New Packages generator

2011-05-08 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi, Joerg Jaspert (07/05/2011): > As we have received no notice of errors and as we also do not see > anything bad ourself, I just activated the new generator for the > archive. Starting with the next dinstall run in a few minutes all > Packages and Sources files[2] will be generated using the ne

Re: Software quality metrics in Debian?

2011-05-08 Thread Paul Wise
Sounds like an extension of DACA: http://qa.debian.org/daca/ -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/BANLkTi=

Software quality metrics in Debian?

2011-05-08 Thread Thomas Koch
Hi, I'd like to hear your opinions about an idea and propose a discussion about it on Debconf: a) Dream: Debian could publish quality metrics about the packaged software in a machine readable format. b) Software quality obviously is not strictly defined. There are metrics that could automatic

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-08 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 10:46:35AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > the 2008 GR invites to seek consensus, and in my opinion, what prove > to be anti-consensual is to divide developers into formal categories. > I have not seen such a vigourous opposition in the recent years to the > idea of accepting

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-08 Thread Simon Josefsson
Enrico Weigelt writes: > * Henrique de Moraes Holschuh schrieb: > >> > I'm (as upstream) using serval macros in their own .m4 files (eg. >> > in ./m4/, maybe even sorted into subdirs). Can autoreconf figure >> > out the required search pathes all on its own ? >> >> The problem is that autorecon