Re: Bug#616317: base: commit= ext3 mount option in fstab has no effect.

2011-05-07 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, May 08, 2011 at 05:24:09AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sat, 2011-05-07 at 22:43 -0400, Ted Ts'o wrote: > [...] > > Should we try to make this work (at best badly) since a change in > > mount options in /etc/fstab would only take effect at the next > > mkinitramfs and/or update-grub inv

Re: Bug#616317: base: commit= ext3 mount option in fstab has no effect.

2011-05-07 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2011-05-07 at 22:43 -0400, Ted Ts'o wrote: [...] > Should we try to make this work (at best badly) since a change in > mount options in /etc/fstab would only take effect at the next > mkinitramfs and/or update-grub invocation? Or should we just close > out this bug and say, "tough luck, ki

Re: Bug#616317: base: commit= ext3 mount option in fstab has no effect.

2011-05-07 Thread Ted Ts'o
reassign 616317 base thanks This isn't a bug in e2fsprogs; e2fsprogs has absolutely nothing to do with mounting the file system. Debian simply doesn't support the mount options for the root file system in /etc/fstab having any effect on how the root file system is mounted. The root file system i

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-07 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, May 07, 2011 at 03:43:11PM +0200, Enrico Zini a écrit : > > a GR was needed to be able to proceed, because the hands of FD were > rather tied by this other GR: http://www.debian.org/vote/2008/vote_002 Hi Enrico, the 2008 GR invites to seek consensus, and in my opinion, what prove to be a

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 07 May 2011, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > | The problem is that autoreconf offers NO command line options for you to > | pass the required -I parameters for aclocal, nor is there a way to encode > | that information in the one place where it could conveniently live > | (configure.ac) AFAIK. >

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-07 Thread Simon McVittie
On Sat, 07 May 2011 at 13:33:53 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > c) does _NOT_ call configure As much as I wish this had been the convention, it isn't - the convention is that autogen.sh *does* call ./configure (often with options suitable for developers of the project, whereas the ./configure defau

Bug#626017: ITP: ruby-shoulda-context -- context framework for Test::Unit

2011-05-07 Thread Antonio Terceiro
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Antonio Terceiro * Package name: ruby-shoulda-context Version : 1.0.0.beta1 Upstream Author : Several authors * URL : https://github.com/thoughtbot/shoulda-context * License : MIT Programming Lang: Ruby Description

Bug#626016: ITP: ruby-shoulda-matchers -- Test helpers for Rails applications, compatible with Test::Unit and RSpec

2011-05-07 Thread Antonio Terceiro
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Antonio Terceiro * Package name: ruby-shoulda-matchers Version : 1.0.0.beta2 Upstream Author : Several authors * URL : https://github.com/thoughtbot/shoulda-matchers * License : MIT Programming Lang: Ruby Description

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-07 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh schrieb: > > I'm (as upstream) using serval macros in their own .m4 files (eg. > > in ./m4/, maybe even sorted into subdirs). Can autoreconf figure > > out the required search pathes all on its own ? > > The problem is that autoreconf offers NO command line options

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-07 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Henrique de Moraes Holschuh Hiya, | The problem is that autoreconf offers NO command line options for you to | pass the required -I parameters for aclocal, nor is there a way to encode | that information in the one place where it could conveniently live | (configure.ac) AFAIK. Can't you use

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-07 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 07 May 2011, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Henrique de Moraes Holschuh schrieb: > > Yes. I think it was Cyrus IMAP that required -I in places where > > autoreconf doesn't reach, so I called each tool separately. Which is > > obviously a problem in autoreconf. > > Is it really a problem of a

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-07 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 12:25:15PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 02:30:35PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > Le 04/05/2011 07:42, Steve M. Robbins a écrit : > > > P.S. I tried rebuilding glibc myself locally, but gcc also segfaults > > > in the process :-( > > > > Are yo

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-07 Thread Asheesh Laroia
On Fri, 6 May 2011, Chris Warburton wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 11:29 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Friday, May 06, 2011 11:23:50 AM Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 09:11 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Friday, May 06, 2011 08:56:21 AM Chris Warburton wrote: Programm

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-07 Thread Michael Gilbert
Enrico Zini wrote: > On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 02:04:20PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > > > It wasn't the GR itself. It was the fact that these changes to the NM > > process were actually made. I suppose it is arguable that those changes > > simply would not have happened without the GR, but that

Re: Integrating aptosid?

2011-05-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 03:05:34PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > I know it's not simple, but it's not necessarily harder than making > testing usable, I think Joss made a pretty good case about that on his > blog. FWIW (#1), for the non-planet readers this is at http://np237.livejournal.com/3186

Re: New Packages generator

2011-05-07 Thread Joerg Jaspert
> As we already noted in our meeting minutes, there is one difference in > the files that you might notice: The order of the fields within one > entry is different. This should not create any trouble with compliant > 822 parsers, as order does not matter, but in case you do some weird > parsing on

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 7 May 2011 16:51:01 +0200 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Neil Williams schrieb: > > > Nonsense. It is not the job of ./autogen.sh to revert to the VCS state > > It is it's job to produce a clean state where *all* generated > files have been regenerated and the next stage (configure) > can s

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-07 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Neil Williams schrieb: > Nonsense. It is not the job of ./autogen.sh to revert to the VCS state It is it's job to produce a clean state where *all* generated files have been regenerated and the next stage (configure) can start from here, w/o any manual intervention or workarounds. > and there

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 7 May 2011 15:41:22 +0200 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Neil Williams schrieb: > > > No. Reverting the build to the point where it is equivalent to only > > what is in the VCS adds completely unnecessary build dependencies and > > build stages. > > Which ones exactly (besides the usual aut

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-07 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Sean Finney schrieb: IOW: all the fun of indeterministically self-modifying code ... cu -- -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ phone: +49 36207 519931 email: weig...@metux.de mobile: +49 151 2

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-07 Thread Enrico Zini
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 02:04:20PM -0400, Michael Gilbert wrote: > It wasn't the GR itself. It was the fact that these changes to the NM > process were actually made. I suppose it is arguable that those changes > simply would not have happened without the GR, but that indicates more > of a lack of

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-07 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Neil Williams schrieb: > No. Reverting the build to the point where it is equivalent to only > what is in the VCS adds completely unnecessary build dependencies and > build stages. Which ones exactly (besides the usual autotools) ? > VCS is not the final source, it's a tool for upstream to cr

Bug#625971: ITP: wims-help -- help files for wims

2011-05-07 Thread Georges Khaznadar
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Georges Khaznadar * Package name: wims-help Version : 4.01 Upstream Authors : Bernadette Perrin-Riou , Marie-Claude David , Association WIMSEDU * URL : http://www.wimsedu.info * License

Re: 0-day NMUs for RC bugs without activity for 7 days?

2011-05-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 12:51:46PM +0200, Jakub Wilk wrote: > This works both ways. If a NMUer uploaded my package without a delay > and without a good reason[0], I want to be able to yell at him „you > are > a jerk (according to Developers Reference)!” > > Unfortunately, clueless NMUers do exist.

Re: 0-day NMUs for RC bugs without activity for 7 days?

2011-05-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 7 May 2011 12:51:46 +0200 Jakub Wilk wrote: > [0] No, 7 days without activity in the bug log is not a good enough > reason. Let's turn our empathy on and face it: we are not bug-fixing > monkeys and 7 days is a very short time frame. It's 7 days without maintainer response - if you're

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 7 May 2011 13:33:53 +0200 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Josue Abarca schrieb: > > > From: /usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/README.Debian.gz > > "Example autogen.sh and debian/rules files can be found in > > /usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/examples. Do not use them as-is. Rather, > > properly cust

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-07 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh schrieb: > Yes. I think it was Cyrus IMAP that required -I in places where > autoreconf doesn't reach, so I called each tool separately. Which is > obviously a problem in autoreconf. Is it really a problem of autoreconf ? Imagine the following situation: I'm (as

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-07 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 7 May 2011 13:48:00 +0200 Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Neil Williams schrieb: > > > Not every generated file needs to be cleaned. The list can vary if the > > package is very old and depends on how the package itself handles the > > clean internally. > > IMHO, *all* generated files should

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-07 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh schrieb: > 1. No spawn from autotooling allowed in the VCS. EVER. .gitignore it >away at once. Autogenerated files inside the VCS repo are almost >always a bad idea. It was madness with CVS, it was bad mojo with >SVN, and it is certainly at least an a

Re: 0-day NMUs for RC bugs without activity for 7 days?

2011-05-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Sat, 07 May 2011, Jakub Wilk wrote: > This works both ways. If a NMUer uploaded my package without a delay > and without a good reason[0], I want to be able to yell at him „you > are a jerk (according to Developers Reference)!” No. First off, I never said that the rules are there to be ab

Re: 0-day NMUs for RC bugs without activity for 7 days?

2011-05-07 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, May 06, 2011 at 11:14:55PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : > > - The dev-ref documents the "default" choice. While there are cases where I > agree that uploading the fixed package ASAP is necessary, in most cases, we > can probably survive two more days with the bug, if we already surv

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-07 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Neil Williams schrieb: > Not every generated file needs to be cleaned. The list can vary if the > package is very old and depends on how the package itself handles the > clean internally. IMHO, *all* generated files should be cleaned away, just to be sure. In the last decade I've encountered a

Re: Best practice for cleaning autotools-generated files?

2011-05-07 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Josue Abarca schrieb: > From: /usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/README.Debian.gz > "Example autogen.sh and debian/rules files can be found in > /usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/examples. Do not use them as-is. Rather, > properly customize your own." > > and from /usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/examples/a

Re: 0-day NMUs for RC bugs without activity for 7 days?

2011-05-07 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Raphael Hertzog , 2011-05-07, 09:12: A patch was proposed (#625449) to implement in dvelopers-reference the "DELAYED/0 for upload fixing only release-critical bugs older than 7 days, without maintainer activity for 7 days" policy. I don't think that this policy is a good idea. But, since I w

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-07 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 02:30:35PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Le 04/05/2011 07:42, Steve M. Robbins a écrit : > > On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 12:10:48AM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote: > > > >> Sounds like http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12518 > >> which is fixed (sort of) by commit 0

Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

2011-05-07 Thread George Danchev
On Saturday 07 May 2011 09:41:34 Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hi, Hi, > On Fri, 06 May 2011, George Danchev wrote: > > * writing a meaningful ITP helps to grab attention, especially if there > > are multiple alternatives. Prove your point (ref: I'm upstream and I > > want to maintain it, doesn't magi

Re: 0-day NMUs for RC bugs without activity for 7 days?

2011-05-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 06 May 2011, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > A patch was proposed (#625449) to implement in dvelopers-reference the > "DELAYED/0 for upload fixing only release-critical bugs older than 7 days, > without maintainer activity for 7 days" policy. > > I don't think that this policy is a good idea. But,