Re: some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy [Was: Warm up discussion about desktop files]

2011-04-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 21 avril 2011 à 01:14 +0200, Kurt Roeckx a écrit : > I will find it very annoying when it says "music player" in the > menu without telling me *which* one it is. > > But for people looking for a music player, they don't care (yet) > how it's called, so there probably is also a need have

Re: /run in experimental

2011-04-20 Thread Andrew O. Shadoura
Hello, On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 12:37:44 +0200 m...@linux.it (Marco d'Itri) wrote: > > udev 167-2: > > - works with /run absent > > - broken with /run present and with a tmpfs mounted > > (no networking, others have other non-working hardware) > Unsurprisingly, it turned out that udev

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-20 Thread Andrew O. Shadoura
Hello, On Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:47:18 +0200 Stig Sandbeck Mathisen wrote: > My major gripe with ifupdown is the lack of CIDR in "address", but I > can live with that. :) ifupdown 0.7 does support CIDR. -- WBR, Andrew signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy [Was: Warm up discussion about desktop files]

2011-04-20 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 09:47:25AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > 3) Comments should be used to describe the function of the program so > that users who are unfamiliar with the program name will be able to > understand how the program can help them achieve tasks or partake in an > activity. Comments

Bug#623530: ITP: libouch-perl -- exception handling module

2011-04-20 Thread gregor herrmann
Package: wnpp Owner: gregor herrmann Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libouch-perl Version : 0.0300 Upstream Author : JT Smith * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Ouch/ * License : Arti

Bug#623528: ITP: webdis -- a simple web server providing an HTTP interface to Redis server

2011-04-20 Thread Andriy Senkovych
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andriy Senkovych * Package name: webdis Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Nicolas Favre-Felix * URL : https://github.com/nicolasff/webdis * License : BSD Programming Lang: C Description : a simple web server pro

Re: network-manager as default? No!

2011-04-20 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 07:40:33PM +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote: > On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 03:23:32PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: >>> NM may be good for laptops, so put it in the laptop task and leave the >>> rest alone in the default installation. >> And keep the installer unable to do things as

Re: Bug#623452: ITP: partclone -- Utility to clone and restore a partition

2011-04-20 Thread Georges Khaznadar
Hi Reinhard, Reinhard Tartler a écrit : > > Partclone is a project like the well-known backup utility > > "Partition Image" a.k.a. partimage. > > It would be great if the description would include a list of supported > filesystems. I immediately wondered if NTFS was supported (it seems it is)

Re: some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy [Was: Warm up discussion about desktop files]

2011-04-20 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-04-20, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mercredi 20 avril 2011 à 17:30 +0200, Bernhard R. Link a écrit : >> But for me having everything in the menu is its most important feature. [...] > There is a place where you can access everything that’s installed on > your system: it’s call a shell. T

Re: some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy [Was: Warm up discussion about desktop files]

2011-04-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 20 avril 2011 à 17:30 +0200, Bernhard R. Link a écrit : > But for me having everything in the menu is its most important feature. It’s not a feature. It is a design mistake. If you keep on implementing whatever seems best for *your* use, without any care for usability, you’re going s

Re: some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy [Was: Warm up discussion about desktop files]

2011-04-20 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Josselin Mouette [110420 13:59]: > It’s not only a problem of ugliness. The #1 usability problem with the > Debian menu is the huge amount of entries. If you repeat this mistake > with the freedesktop menus, a menu system that has been nice so far > (nice, not great) would become almost as crapp

Re: Bug#623452: ITP: partclone -- Utility to clone and restore a partition

2011-04-20 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 14:17:33 (CEST), Georges Khaznadar wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Georges Khaznadar > > > * Package name: partclone > Version : 0.2.22 > Upstream Author : Steven Shiau , > Jazz Wang , > Thomas Ts

Bug#623453: ITP: xdmf -- eXtensible Data Model and Format

2011-04-20 Thread Alastair McKinstry
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alastair McKinstry * Package name: xdmf Version : 2.1 Upstream Author : Name http://www.xdmf.org/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C++, Python, Fortran Description : eXtensible Data Model and Format library The need for a s

Bug#623452: ITP: partclone -- Utility to clone and restore a partition

2011-04-20 Thread Georges Khaznadar
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Georges Khaznadar * Package name: partclone Version : 0.2.22 Upstream Author : Steven Shiau , Jazz Wang , Thomas Tsai * URL : http://partclone.org/ * License : GPL-2+ Programmin

Re: some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy [Was: Warm up discussion about desktop files]

2011-04-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 20 avril 2011 à 11:46 +0200, Bernhard R. Link a écrit : > > I'm going to start dropping debian/menu files from my packages > > henceforth. > Sorry to be a bit harsh about that, but seriously??? Yes, seriously. There’s a better use of our time than maintaining menu files and, similarl

Re: some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy [Was: Warm up discussion about desktop files]

2011-04-20 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Wed, April 20, 2011 09:57, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Neil Williams > wrote: > >> .. as validated by the desktop-file-validate utility, as used by >> lintian. > > desktop-file-validate is not used by lintian, perhaps there should be > a test similar to the man-db test t

Re: some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy [Was: Warm up discussion about desktop files]

2011-04-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 20 avril 2011 à 10:37 +0200, Bernhard R. Link a écrit : > > > 7) In case of 6) there must be a .desktop file with the same > > >command and adhering to this policy, unless that command cannot > > >be run (or cannot work) outside this environment[4]. > > > > I disagree with thi

Re: some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy [Was: Warm up discussion about desktop files]

2011-04-20 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 11:46:31 +0200 "Bernhard R. Link" wrote: > * Neil Williams [110420 10:47]: > > Have you examples of desktop files which are not "in shape" currently? > > Well, for example currently in squeeze there is > > /usr/share/menu/evince: > ?package(evince):needs="X11" section="Appl

Re: Openstack Compute nova, Cactus release, Squeeze built available in our private repo

2011-04-20 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 04/18/2011 08:47 PM, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 02:14:27AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: >> On 04/18/2011 03:03 PM, Soren Hansen wrote: >>> Making the package lintian [clean] is a great goal! > >> It's not a goal, it's a requirement for any DD before uploading to the >> arch

Re: /run in experimental

2011-04-20 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 17, Roger Leigh wrote: > udev 167-2: > - works with /run absent > - broken with /run present and with a tmpfs mounted > (no networking, others have other non-working hardware) Unsurprisingly, it turned out that udev works fine in both cases. But ifupdown breaks if /etc/netw

Re: some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy [Was: Warm up discussion about desktop files]

2011-04-20 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Neil Williams [110420 10:47]: > Have you examples of desktop files which are not "in shape" currently? Well, for example currently in squeeze there is /usr/share/menu/evince: ?package(evince):needs="X11" section="Applications/Viewers"\ title="Evince" command="/usr/bin/evince"\ hints="Documen

Re: some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy [Was: Warm up discussion about desktop files]

2011-04-20 Thread Simon McVittie
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 at 09:24:14 +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > I think we should actually try to investigate how different 'menus' is > using the desktop entries. GNOME Shell: displays only Name in the applications menu; displays only Name when you hover over "favourite" apps in the dock; type-ahead

Re: some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy [Was: Warm up discussion about desktop files]

2011-04-20 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2011-04-20, Neil Williams wrote: > e.g. ddd is useless as a Name. Data Display Debugger is OK as a Name, > particularly as the comment is "Graphical debugger frontend".=20 what is the name of that app? is it 'ddd' or 'Data Display Debugger'? Graphical debugger frontend should be in GenericNam

Re: some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy [Was: Warm up discussion about desktop files]

2011-04-20 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Neil Williams wrote: > .. as validated by the desktop-file-validate utility, as used by > lintian. desktop-file-validate is not used by lintian, perhaps there should be a test similar to the man-db test though. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise --

Re: some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy [Was: Warm up discussion about desktop files]

2011-04-20 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:12:52 +0200 "Bernhard R. Link" wrote: > Some suggestions for a Debian .desktop policy[1]: Do we actually need one? lintian makes a fairly decent job of this currently and I have yet to see any specific examples of where desktop files are a "joke" or not "in shape". (As lon

Re: some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy [Was: Warm up discussion about desktop files]

2011-04-20 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Josselin Mouette [110420 10:14]: > > 5) Categories must contain applicable KDE,GNOME,GTK,Qt,Motif,Java[3] > >so that a menu manager cat filter out things not matching > >the UI look&feel if wanted. > > > > 6) A .desktop file is allowed to break above rules if is has a > >OnlyShownIn

Re: [pkg-fso-maint] [Debian] enlightenment

2011-04-20 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/4/20 Jonas Smedegaard : >> [3] http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/EFLWebKit >> [4] http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/wiki/Eve > > Please file an RFP bugreport for that, and refer to that when requesting > packaging help. http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=623437 for Eve. Also, it seems

Re: (Vcs-Upstream-)Git support for uscan?

2011-04-20 Thread Evgeni Golov
On 04/19/2011 09:03 AM, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: > Evgeni Golov writes: >> We (lindi, liw and me) had just a short discussion in #-devel, that it >> would be nice to have some sort of Vcs-Upstream-* in debian/control > > How many packages are there that are not using a watch file because > ups

Re: some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy [Was: Warm up discussion about desktop files]

2011-04-20 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 20 avril 2011 à 09:12 +0200, Bernhard R. Link a écrit : > Some suggestions for a Debian .desktop policy[1]: > > 1) syntax according to freedesktop's Desktop Entry Specification > [TODO: always the latest, fix some version and increase that at > fixed points?] > > 2) Name must be

Re: [pkg-fso-maint] [Debian] enlightenment

2011-04-20 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-04-20 at 10:25am, Timo Jyrinki wrote: > In addition to current packages, there is interesting Samsung funded > EFL/Webkit [3] available, which is needed to build the promising touch > usable Eve browser [4]. These are definitely on my interest list if I > suddenly get gifted all free time

Re: [pkg-fso-maint] [Debian] enlightenment

2011-04-20 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/4/14 Sebastian Reichel : > Elementary and e17 are currently not installable in sid. I suggest > to upload the elementary release from experimental to sid and > update the e17 package to a newer snapshot. > > Apart from that it would be nice to get e17 and its dependencies > into testing now th

some suggestions towards a Debian .desktop policy [Was: Warm up discussion about desktop files]

2011-04-20 Thread Bernhard R. Link
Some suggestions for a Debian .desktop policy[1]: 1) syntax according to freedesktop's Desktop Entry Specification [TODO: always the latest, fix some version and increase that at fixed points?] 2) Name must be a name properly name the program and be unique enough to be useable if multiple