On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 3:55 AM, Michael Vogt wrote:
> There is a "mirror" method in apt since some time that is a bit of a
> combined cdn/README.mirrors approach. Its not much used and probably
> has some rough edges but should be a good starting point.
>
> The idea is that you have a sources.li
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Paul Wise wrote:
> Not nessecarily, it really depends. For example in Australia local
> mirrors are much faster than US mirrors.
And your ISPs mirrors are usually faster than other ISPs mirrors. Some
ISPs give free access to their mirror; the mirror traffic does
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:11 AM, Adam Borowski wrote:
> Another strange thing about apt-spy is that it picks a subset of mirrors
> without an apparent rule. It claims it uses
> http://http.us.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt yet it ignores most (but
> not all!) of non-country-primary ones.
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On Fri, 2011-03-11 at 00:11 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 05:12:08PM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > I like the idea of having apt choose the mirror, rather than the admins
> > of cdn.debian.net. It lessens the centralization. Also, it would require
> > fewer changes from m
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 00:11:40 +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > On the other hand, we don't necessarily have to be able to pick the
> > optimal mirror. It's probably good enough to pick a good one.
> Right, with bottlenecks usually being at the last mile, all good mirrors
> will have nearly the same
* Stefano Zacchiroli [2011-03-11 00:18 +0100]:
> First of all, I'm not sure anymore that I see the point of discussing
> the *language issue* in a circle larger than the devscripts
> maintainers. ... The language issue should probably be a decision
> within the devscripts team, together with the sc
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 02:34:51PM -0500, James Vega wrote:
> I completely agree that rewriting the tools isn't a useful effort. I
> was more concerned that there had been significant development done on
> scripts that were intended to be proposed to devscripts and yet were
> intentionally being w
Hi,
i tried to understand the correct way to package a python module with
debhelper, dh_pysupport and dh_python2.
I created a python-helloworld example package ( get it from
https://code.launchpad.net/~toabctl/+junk/python-helloworld ) and want
to know if i used the correct way to package a simpl
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 08:15:22PM +0100, Carsten Hey wrote:
> James Vega seems to be the most active devscripts maintainer these days,
> and he does this (as far as I know) in his spare time. If he does not
> want to have python scripts in it, I see no justification to force him
> to do so. I al
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 05:12:08PM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> I like the idea of having apt choose the mirror, rather than the admins
> of cdn.debian.net. It lessens the centralization. Also, it would require
> fewer changes from mirror admins to participate.
What do you propose apt to do?
*
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 07:57:44PM +, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On 2011-03-10, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > On 03/10/2011 06:56 PM, Philipp Kern wrote:
> >> On 2011-03-10, Hector Oron wrote:
> >>> I was planning to start using a wanna-build instance, but i was not
> >>> sure which one to use.
> >>> A
On 03/10/2011 10:32 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 09:50:57PM +0100, gregor herrmann wrote:
>> On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:51:50 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
>
> get-build-deps
Is this an alias for "apt-get build-dep $1"?
>>> No, it's a tool that's been long missing from a
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 09:50:57PM +0100, gregor herrmann wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:51:50 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > > >get-build-deps
> > > Is this an alias for "apt-get build-dep $1"?
> > No, it's a tool that's been long missing from a Debian as a standard
> > interface - "install th
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On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:22:29 +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> I'd really like to see support for sane mirror selection in apt itself,
> possibly with archive support (i.e. list of mirrors somewhere on
> ftp.d.o). That would allow apt to for instance retry on a different
> server if the first one i
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 18:48:21 +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> To conclude with an obvious argument, rewriting useful tools which are
> known to work and which are currently maintained by a derived distro,
> when they are already written in a popular language, doesn't seem to be
> the smartest th
Hi James (2011.03.10_21:34:51_+0200)
> I completely agree that rewriting the tools isn't a useful effort. I
> was more concerned that there had been significant development done on
> scripts that were intended to be proposed to devscripts and yet were
> intentionally being written in a language th
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011 10:51:50 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > >get-build-deps
> > Is this an alias for "apt-get build-dep $1"?
> No, it's a tool that's been long missing from a Debian as a standard
> interface - "install the build-dependencies for the package in my current
> directory".
Sounds si
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 10:22:29AM +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > What would it take to get cdn.debian.net become a service provided by
> > the project? In other words, cdn.debian.org, instead of cdn.debian.net.
[..]
> I'd really like to see support
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 05:24:25PM +, Hector Oron wrote:
> Hello Roger,
>
> 2011/3/10 Roger Leigh :
>
> > This mail is really just to find out: is anyone actually using the
> > wanna-build package in the archive? popcon indicates that a few
> > people have it installed, and < 10 have ever us
On 2011-03-10, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> On 03/10/2011 06:56 PM, Philipp Kern wrote:
>> On 2011-03-10, Hector Oron wrote:
>>> I was planning to start using a wanna-build instance, but i was not
>>> sure which one to use.
>>> As I have not yet started to use any of them I have no real objection
>>> f
On 03/10/2011 06:56 PM, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On 2011-03-10, Hector Oron wrote:
>> I was planning to start using a wanna-build instance, but i was not
>> sure which one to use.
>> As I have not yet started to use any of them I have no real objection
>> for its removal, on the other hand I would no
On 2011-03-10, Carsten Hey wrote:
> One way to have both, all members of the devscripts team keep their
> current vim in maintaining it, and not wasting the potential developer
> resources of these two DDs, could be the following:
>
> Package: devscripts
> Maintainer: Devscripts Devel Team
>
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> Also, considering we are talking about Python and not, say, my beloved
> OCaml, I wouldn't be surprised to discover that among active Debian
> developers we have nowadays more Python knowledge than Perl knowledge
> (but I'm already regr
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* Stefano Zacchiroli [2011-03-10 18:48 +0100]:
> The argument of maintenance burden is in general a valid one, but IME
> maintenance burden in devscripts is more limited by the amount of
> people who are interested in maintaining a specific (dev)script than
> by the needed language knowledge. ...
>
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 06:32:28PM +0100, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
> >get-build-deps
> Is this an alias for "apt-get build-dep $1"?
No, it's a tool that's been long missing from a Debian as a standard
interface - "install the build-dependencies for the package in my current
directory".
This may not b
On 2011-03-10, Hector Oron wrote:
> I was planning to start using a wanna-build instance, but i was not
> sure which one to use.
> As I have not yet started to use any of them I have no real objection
> for its removal, on the other hand I would not mind to try to merge
> current wb used on buildd
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On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 04:46:01PM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> I suspect most people who want to add something to devscripts don't
> start off by deciding that they want to do that. Instead they have an
> itch they want to scratch, they write something quick to get fix that,
> and then realize t
On 08/03/2011 23:01, Benjamin Drung wrote:
check-symbols
I always hated programs that do "sudo" (and even more those doing it
*twice*). And, isn't just unpacking the .deb and checking for ".so"
there enough? You could have undefined symbols… but that may not be
an issue most of the time, IMO.
Hello Roger,
2011/3/10 Roger Leigh :
> This mail is really just to find out: is anyone actually using the
> wanna-build package in the archive? popcon indicates that a few
> people have it installed, and < 10 have ever used it. Would
> migrating to wanna-build.git be realistic for these users?
I like the idea of having apt choose the mirror, rather than the admins
of cdn.debian.net. It lessens the centralization. Also, it would require
fewer changes from mirror admins to participate.
On to, 2011-03-10 at 21:55 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:46 PM, The Fungi wrote:
On 2011-03-10, Roger Leigh wrote:
> This mail is really just to find out: is anyone actually using the
> wanna-build package in the archive?
Given that I know bits of the sbuild.git codebase: Try to run it. If it
doesn't immediately explode there might be users. If it does and there
are no repo
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hi,
When reconnect to a wpa2 enterprise peap wireless network the network-manager
doesn't get connection.
The solution I have tested is: right click in network-manager, disable
wireless, modprobe -r rt2860sta, load the module again, and enable wireless
in networ
On to, 2011-03-10 at 11:28 -0500, James Vega wrote:
> I also think that going off and writing scripts in Python when one knows
> that devscripts is a Perl and shell project is the wrong way to try to
> contribute. One generally tries to work with a project, not write a lot
> of code in a language
On Thu, 2011-03-10 at 11:28 -0500, James Vega wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> > On 03/09/2011 01:05 AM, Roger Leigh wrote:
> >>> Most of the script are written in Python. Rewriting them to get them
> >>> included in devscripts is too much work without benefit. dev
The Fungi wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 01:06:03PM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> > If one has or downloads a list of mirrors, what's a good way to
> > choose the best one? Ping time?
>
> Package: netselect-apt
> Description: speed tester for choosing a fast Debian mirror
> This package provid
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> On 03/09/2011 01:05 AM, Roger Leigh wrote:
>>> Most of the script are written in Python. Rewriting them to get them
>>> included in devscripts is too much work without benefit. devscripts
>>> would depend on python then.
>>
>> Most of the sc
On 03/09/2011 01:05 AM, Roger Leigh wrote:
>> Most of the script are written in Python. Rewriting them to get them
>> included in devscripts is too much work without benefit. devscripts
>> would depend on python then.
>
> Most of the scripts are short. Rewriting would be fairly simple, and
> may
sbuild (sbuild.git) builds packages for sbuild, wanna-build and
buildd. Of these, only sbuild and buildd are actively maintained.
The wanna-build instance used on the buildds is maintained
independently in a separate wanna-build.git repository. Given that
wanna-build in sbuild.git is not maintain
Benjamin Drung writes ("Re: new scripts and patches for devscripts"):
> Am Mittwoch, den 09.03.2011, 22:28 + schrieb Ian Jackson:
> > udt-* for all applicable *, where "udt" stands for "ubuntu-dev-tools".
>
> Why? These scripts are not ubuntu specific.
To distinguish them from any other scrip
Le 15/01/2011 18:22, Steve Langasek a écrit :
[...] and require us to use a hackish (>= ), (<< )
construction for all arch:any -> arch:all dependencies just as we already
have to do for arch:all -> arch:any dependencies.
This is as "wrong" as adding artificial versioned build-dependencies, a
Le jeudi 10 mars 2011 à 09:00 -0500, Scott Kitterman a écrit :
> The upstream Python position is (I'll paraphrase), "There will not be
> a Python 2.8. If there is a new feature release of Python 2 it will be
> because someone forked it - it's Free software, so we can't prevent
> that".
>
> There a
On Jo, 10 mar 11, 21:55:57, Paul Wise wrote:
> >
> > Package: netselect-apt
> > Description: speed tester for choosing a fast Debian mirror
>
> apt-spy is another one. It downloads Packages files from all the
> mirrors in a region or country and reports the fastest.
In my experience you have to u
On Thursday, March 10, 2011 06:15:01 am Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
> > seriously, THERE WILL BE NO NEW PYTHON 2.X VERSION RELEASED UPSTREAM¹,
> > we don't have to worry about 2.X transitions when 2.7 will become the
> > only supported one. If you don't like
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:46 PM, The Fungi wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 01:06:03PM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
>> If one has or downloads a list of mirrors, what's a good way to
>> choose the best one? Ping time?
>
> Package: netselect-apt
> Description: speed tester for choosing a fast Debia
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 01:06:03PM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> If one has or downloads a list of mirrors, what's a good way to
> choose the best one? Ping time?
Package: netselect-apt
Description: speed tester for choosing a fast Debian mirror
This package provides a utility that can choose th
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> What is the correct way to override what dpkg-shlibdeps detects?
Either you replace the dependency associated to the interpreters' libraries
by providing debian/shlibs.local (or any other file that you indicate with
-L) or you tell dpkg-shlibdeps to put
On to, 2011-03-10 at 10:22 +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> I'd really like to see support for sane mirror selection in apt itself,
> possibly with archive support (i.e. list of mirrors somewhere on
> ftp.d.o). That would allow apt to for instance retry on a different
> server if the first one it t
Hi,
On Thu Mar 10, 2011 at 12:09:32 +, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On 2011-03-10, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 08:58:55AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> >> What would it take to get cdn.debian.net become a service provided by
> >> the project? In other words, cdn.debian.org, inst
On 10/03/11 at 12:00 +, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> On 2011-03-10, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > On 09/03/11 at 22:27 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> >> Lucas Nussbaum writes ("Ruby changes for Wheezy"):
> >> > We are planning a rather large set of changes in Ruby packaging for
> >> > Debian wheezy, and wou
On 2011-03-10, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 08:58:55AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
>> What would it take to get cdn.debian.net become a service provided by
>> the project? In other words, cdn.debian.org, instead of cdn.debian.net.
>> If we had cdn.debian.org, we could make it into
On 2011-03-10, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 09/03/11 at 22:27 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
>> Lucas Nussbaum writes ("Ruby changes for Wheezy"):
>> > We are planning a rather large set of changes in Ruby packaging for
>> > Debian wheezy, and would appreciate some external feedback on our
>> > proposals
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
> seriously, THERE WILL BE NO NEW PYTHON 2.X VERSION RELEASED UPSTREAM¹,
> we don't have to worry about 2.X transitions when 2.7 will become the
> only supported one. If you don't like Breaks, I will remove it, it
> really doesn't matter - that's why at t
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 09:54:19AM +, Alessio Treglia wrote:
> > Should I fill a bug report ?
> By reading the changelog [1], it seems the maintainer has already
> accomplished that.
>
> [1] http://goo.gl/oomj3
Yes, see /usr/share/debhelper/dh_make/licenses/
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On 09/03/11 at 22:27 +, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Lucas Nussbaum writes ("Ruby changes for Wheezy"):
> > We are planning a rather large set of changes in Ruby packaging for
> > Debian wheezy, and would appreciate some external feedback on our
> > proposals.
> >
> > Our plans are described on
> > ht
Ian Jackson writes:
> udt-* for all applicable *, where "udt" stands for "ubuntu-dev-tools".
>
[...]
> udt-mk-sbuild
This command creates a schroot with a named debian or ubuntu release,
and adds a useful section to schroot.conf. Adding "udt-" does not make
it any less misnamed. :)
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Hi,
On Thu Mar 10, 2011 at 10:22:29 +0100, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> I'd really like to see support for sane mirror selection in apt itself,
> possibly with archive support (i.e. list of mirrors somewhere on
> ftp.d.o). That would allow apt to for inst
On to, 2011-03-10 at 10:42 +0100, Mathieu Malaterre wrote:
> What is the status of dep5(*) copyright file in debian ? I am using
> dh_make for preparing packages, and I had report that the default
> generated copyright template should be replaced by a dep5 one.
> Should I fill a bug report ?
E
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Mathieu Malaterre
wrote:
> Should I fill a bug report ?
By reading the changelog [1], it seems the maintainer has already
accomplished that.
[1] http://goo.gl/oomj3
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On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:30 PM, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Paul Wise wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Peter Palfrader wrote:
>>
>> > (i.e. list of mirrors somewhere on ftp.d.o).
>>
>> We have had the mirrors list on each mirror for a long time:
>> ftp://ftp.debian.
Hi,
What is the status of dep5(*) copyright file in debian ? I am using
dh_make for preparing packages, and I had report that the default
generated copyright template should be replaced by a dep5 one.
Should I fill a bug report ?
Thanks,
--
Mathieu
(*) http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep5/
--
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Peter Palfrader wrote:
>
> > (i.e. list of mirrors somewhere on ftp.d.o).
>
> We have had the mirrors list on each mirror for a long time:
> ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt
That's not exactly machine readab
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Peter Palfrader wrote:
> (i.e. list of mirrors somewhere on ftp.d.o).
We have had the mirrors list on each mirror for a long time:
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt
ftp://ftp.iinet.net.au/debian/debian/README.mirrors.txt
ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debi
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 08:58:55AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> What would it take to get cdn.debian.net become a service provided by
> the project? In other words, cdn.debian.org, instead of cdn.debian.net.
>
> If we had cdn.debian.org, we could make it into a default mirror (which
> could pote
On Thu, 10 Mar 2011, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
> What would it take to get cdn.debian.net become a service provided by
> the project? In other words, cdn.debian.org, instead of cdn.debian.net.
I think DNS hacks are the wrong approach in the long run.
The recursors people use are no longer always clo
Lars,
This is ARAKI (a...@debian.org), maintainer of cdn.debian.net.
Thanks for using cdn.debian.net and your good suggestion.
I think we need more resource to modify some points as follows,
- IPv6 support
- More mirror list maintainer
- Using GeoCityLite
- DNS servers on other countries.
# We al
[Raphael Hertzog, 2011-03-09]
> On Wed, 09 Mar 2011, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
> > [Josselin Mouette, 2011-03-06]
> > > You might “like” Breaks, but this:
> > > Depends: python
> > > Breaks: python (>= 2.8), python (<< 2.5)
> > > has the same semantics as:
> > > Depends: python (>= 2.5), p
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What would it take to get cdn.debian.net become a service provided by
the project? In other words, cdn.debian.org, instead of cdn.debian.net.
If we had cdn.debian.org, we could make it into a default mirror (which
could potentially skip one question in the installer), debmirror,
pbuilder, piuparts
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