Re: Buildd & binary-indep

2010-09-26 Thread Felipe Sateler
On 09/26/2010 03:45 PM, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 26.09.2010, 08:50 + schrieb Philipp Kern: >> On 2010-09-26, Reinhard Tartler wrote: >>> On Sa, Sep 25, 2010 at 21:59:51 (CEST), James Vega wrote: No, it builds all the content for arch:all and non-arch:all, but only cr

Re: Summary of CUT discussions (Was: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable)

2010-09-26 Thread Luk Claes
Hi Raphael On 09/26/2010 08:40 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sun, 26 Sep 2010, Luk Claes wrote: >> Of course there are multiple reasons. Though I think one of the most >> obvious ones is that we as a project don't do a genuine stable release >> often so sometimes delay the freeze willingly or no

Re: Bug#598044: ITP: autoconf-dickey -- automatic configure script builder (Thomas Dickey's version)

2010-09-26 Thread Joerg Jaspert
>>> Yet another autoconf version, as if the four that we already have in the >>> archive weren't enough. :-( But it is needed for ncurses if we ever >>> need to patch configure.in, see #580190. >> And its not possible to fixup the idiot who uses an own autoconf >> version? > Considering that his

Re: Buildd & binary-indep

2010-09-26 Thread Joachim Breitner
Am Sonntag, den 26.09.2010, 08:50 + schrieb Philipp Kern: > On 2010-09-26, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > > On Sa, Sep 25, 2010 at 21:59:51 (CEST), James Vega wrote: > >> No, it builds all the content for arch:all and non-arch:all, but only > >> creates the non-arch:all binaries. The issue is that

Re: Summary of CUT discussions (Was: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable)

2010-09-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi Luk, thanks for your valuable comments. On Sun, 26 Sep 2010, Luk Claes wrote: > Of course there are multiple reasons. Though I think one of the most > obvious ones is that we as a project don't do a genuine stable release > often so sometimes delay the freeze willingly or not. Another reason >

Re: Summary of CUT discussions (Was: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable)

2010-09-26 Thread Luk Claes
On 09/26/2010 05:02 PM, Fernando Lemos wrote: > On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Luk Claes wrote: >>> Why would non-frequent snapshots help more than frequent snapshots? >> >> Because in that case they could really be used and supported for >> installing, better user testing, security... > > I

Re: Summary of CUT discussions (Was: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable)

2010-09-26 Thread Luk Claes
On 09/26/2010 04:40 PM, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Hi Luk, Hi Lucas Note that this is my personal opinion and does not represent the opinion of the Release Team perse. > On 26/09/10 at 15:55 +0200, Luk Claes wrote: >> I think this is completely the wrong question, we'd better ask the >> question: W

Re: Summary of CUT discussions (Was: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable)

2010-09-26 Thread Fernando Lemos
Hey, On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Luk Claes wrote: > IMHO, what is missing from rolling should be added to testing, not > worked around by introducing another suite: I believe it's the other way around, actually. To me, adding stuff to testing is the workaround. Testing is not meant to be u

Re: Summary of CUT discussions (Was: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable)

2010-09-26 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi Luk, On 26/09/10 at 15:55 +0200, Luk Claes wrote: > I think this is completely the wrong question, we'd better ask the > question: Why do freezes have to take that long? I would be interested in hearing your answer to that question. It would help to understand the rest of your mail. It seems t

Re: Summary of CUT discussions (Was: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable)

2010-09-26 Thread Luk Claes
Hi Raphael On 09/23/2010 02:30 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Thu, 23 Sep 2010, Luk Claes wrote: >>> Raphael's article is now published, and is probably a good basis for >>> discussing CUT on -de...@. >>> Free link: http://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/406301/bd522adc828b3461/ >> >> Personally I have th

Re: Buildd & binary-indep

2010-09-26 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2010-09-26, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > On Sa, Sep 25, 2010 at 21:59:51 (CEST), James Vega wrote: >> No, it builds all the content for arch:all and non-arch:all, but only >> creates the non-arch:all binaries. The issue is that there's currently >> no way for the buildds to say "Only build the no

Re: Buildd & binary-indep

2010-09-26 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Sa, Sep 25, 2010 at 21:59:51 (CEST), James Vega wrote: > No, it builds all the content for arch:all and non-arch:all, but only > creates the non-arch:all binaries. The issue is that there's currently > no way for the buildds to say "Only build the non-arch:all content" > since the only required