Re: Debian ppa

2010-09-22 Thread William Grant
On Thu, 2010-09-23 at 07:17 +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Julien Cristau writes: > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 16:24:44 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > >> On Mittwoch, 22. September 2010, Mike Hommey wrote: > >>> PS: for my personal needs, some way to get random packages autobuilt > >>> would

Re: Bug#597571: nodejs: non common executable name (exclusive alternatives ?)

2010-09-22 Thread Neil Williams
On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 01:32:21 +0200 Jérémy Lal wrote: > On 23/09/2010 01:24, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Jérémy Lal writes ("Re: Bug#597571: nodejs: non common executable > > name (exclusive alternatives ?)"): > >> On might object "node" would have a different meaning, depending > >> on the packages in

Re: Debian ppa

2010-09-22 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Julien Cristau writes: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 16:24:44 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: >> On Mittwoch, 22. September 2010, Mike Hommey wrote: >>> PS: for my personal needs, some way to get random packages autobuilt >>> would already be helpful (call that ppa if you want).>> >> I seem to recall, ft

Re: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable

2010-09-22 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Anyway, I'd like to ask you all to hold off the discussion for a few hours > until everybody can read the summary of the CUT discussions and have a > clearer ideas of the proposals and the implications. hm... did you mean http://lwn.net/Articles/406301/

Re: Bug#597571: nodejs: non common executable name (exclusive alternatives ?)

2010-09-22 Thread Jérémy Lal
On 23/09/2010 01:24, Ian Jackson wrote: > Jérémy Lal writes ("Re: Bug#597571: nodejs: non common executable name > (exclusive alternatives ?)"): >> On might object "node" would have a different meaning, depending >> on the packages installed ; still, nodejs or x25node (if its maintainer >> cares t

Re: Bug#597571: nodejs: non common executable name (exclusive alternatives ?)

2010-09-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Jérémy Lal writes ("Re: Bug#597571: nodejs: non common executable name (exclusive alternatives ?)"): > On might object "node" would have a different meaning, depending > on the packages installed ; still, nodejs or x25node (if its maintainer > cares to follow) would be there, and unambiguous. I t

Re: [RFC] Binary packages containing the source

2010-09-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Matt Zagrabelny writes ("Re: [RFC] Binary packages containing the source"): > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Ian Jackson > wrote: > > No :-).  Perhaps "ls" rather than "Ls" would have been more correct. > > I'm not sure of the correct rule for this situation... > > > > (If you're thinking of "L

Re: Bug#597571: nodejs: non common executable name (exclusive alternatives ?)

2010-09-22 Thread Jérémy Lal
On 21/09/2010 18:01, Patrick Ouellette wrote: > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 05:26:30PM +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote: >> >> Did you say that before? I don't think so. Personally, I care about the >> Debian package only because the original bugreport (from where this >> discussion started) was against the D

Re: Backports service becoming official

2010-09-22 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > From what concerns the BTS, Don's proposal in [2] (the main one, not > the alternative solution) seems reasonable to me and others in the > thread. The proposal also seems to assume a different Maintainer > field for the bpo package, as hinted above,

Re: [RFC] Binary packages containing the source

2010-09-22 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Call it "source" if you like. The point was that the arch follows the > package name. It's interesting that this is exactly backwards from the way the BTS does it. [Source packages are src:foopkg.] Don Armstrong -- [The] JK-88 [coffee] percola

debdelta back online

2010-09-22 Thread A Mennucc
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 dear all, due to my PC running out of disk space, no deltas were generated in the last week (while I was absent); I found more space, so it will be back online as soon as it generates all needed deltas. If you do not know what debdelta is , see http:

Re: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable

2010-09-22 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2010-09-22, Bruce Sass wrote: > I've heard that Testing cycles between good/installable and > bad/un-installable--do those good times correspond to times when it > would be possible to freeze a set of packages? You're wrong. That's FUD you've read. Cheers Philipp Kern -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: [RFC] Binary packages containing the source

2010-09-22 Thread Matt Zagrabelny
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 12:35 PM, Ian Jackson wrote: > Brett Parker writes ("Re: [RFC] Binary packages containing the source"): >> On 22 Sep 12:47, Ian Jackson wrote: >> > Julien Cristau writes ("Re: [RFC] Binary packages containing the source"): >> > > Why do people hate vowels so much? >> > >> >

Bug#597753: ITP: mspdebug -- debugging tool for MSP430 microcontrollers

2010-09-22 Thread Luca Bruno
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Luca Bruno * Package name: mspdebug Version : 0.11 Upstream Author : Daniel Beer * URL : http://mspdebug.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPLv2+ Programming Lang: C Description : debugging tool for MSP430 microcontro

Re: Backports service becoming official

2010-09-22 Thread Felipe Sateler
On 22/09/10 13:53, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > Thinking about it, what we _conceptually_ need is pretty simple: a > mechanism to declare who is the Maintainer of the bpo package and > enforce its declaration. The responsibility of bpo maintenance will be > on the declared bpo maintainer. If the def

Re: Backports service becoming official

2010-09-22 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Sep 07, 2010 at 07:46:56AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Now that backports are becoming official, I think that it is the right > time to reconsider the maintenance model of backports. I would > personally prefer if we had the same rules of packages ownership as for > normal packages ("nor

Re: [RFC] Binary packages containing the source

2010-09-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Brett Parker writes ("Re: [RFC] Binary packages containing the source"): > On 22 Sep 12:47, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Julien Cristau writes ("Re: [RFC] Binary packages containing the source"): > > > Why do people hate vowels so much? > > > > Bcs f y lv thm t y cn wrt ncmprhnsbl gbbrsh mch mr ffctvly.

Re: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable

2010-09-22 Thread Bruce Sass
On September 22, 2010 01:35:14 am Mehdi Dogguy wrote: > On 09/22/2010 08:47 AM, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 07:31:45AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > >>> Then unstable/testing would roll further as usual > >> > >> How does a major, disruptive, transition get done? > > > > I think

Re: debootstrap and fsck on lvm2 and udev

2010-09-22 Thread Pier Paolo
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 02:41, Pier Paolo wrote: > i) I debootstrap (squeeze package) from lenny on a empty ext3 lvm partition > (rectius: logical volume); > ii) all goes well: > mount proc... > mount sysfs > chroot > aptitude ... udev, lvm2, linux-image, linux-source, ... > update-initr

A new Priority level, ‘bac kports’ ? (Re: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable)

2010-09-22 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear Yaroslav and everybody, the addition of new suites has the disadvantage of dispersing our userbase. Here is a proposition that conserves the current flow of package migration for packages released in Stable, and that makes Testing the meeting point for all the packages. We could introduce

Re: Debian ppa (was Re: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable)

2010-09-22 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 16:24:44 +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Mittwoch, 22. September 2010, Mike Hommey wrote: > > PS: for my personal needs, some way to get random packages autobuilt > > would already be helpful (call that ppa if you want). > > I seem to recall, ftpmaster was planni

Debian ppa (was Re: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable)

2010-09-22 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Mittwoch, 22. September 2010, Mike Hommey wrote: > PS: for my personal needs, some way to get random packages autobuilt > would already be helpful (call that ppa if you want). I seem to recall, ftpmaster was planning something like that. Or wanted to? If so, what the status? If not, shall

Re: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable

2010-09-22 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 22/09/2010 15:01, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > I think that if you concentrate on preparing the next release like you > do, volunteers that are not interested in the stable release (except > for their own package) will show up and deal with migrations to > rolling. > It won't happen but I'd

Re: [RFC] Binary packages containing the source

2010-09-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Julien Cristau writes: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:39:01 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Going by what multiarch proposed and apt already supports that should be >> >> apt-get install linux-2.6:src >> >> where "src" is just another architecture (at least for the user >> interface). >>

Re: [RFC] Binary packages containing the source

2010-09-22 Thread Brett Parker
On 22 Sep 12:47, Ian Jackson wrote: > Julien Cristau writes ("Re: [RFC] Binary packages containing the source"): > > Why do people hate vowels so much? > > Bcs f y lv thm t y cn wrt ncmprhnsbl gbbrsh mch mr ffctvly. Ls y sv > smll mnt f typng.

Re: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable

2010-09-22 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi all, On Tue, 21 Sep 2010, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > CUT discussions at debconf10 and recent news of the birth of Linux Mint discussions on CUT have continued after debconf on the CUT mailing. I wrote a summary of the discussion that will be published in Linux Weekly News before tomorrow. Ho

Re: Bug#596511: ITP: simon -- Open source speech recognition

2010-09-22 Thread Peter Grasch
Am 2010-09-21 22:39, schrieb Simon Josefsson: Also, any external GPL code that Simon links to needs to have the same exception. Is there any external GPL code? Well of course - KDE. I believe kdelibs is LGPL, so maybe you are OK. It depends on what parts of KDE is used. You are right: http:

Re: [RFC] Binary packages containing the source

2010-09-22 Thread Ian Jackson
Julien Cristau writes ("Re: [RFC] Binary packages containing the source"): > Why do people hate vowels so much? Bcs f y lv thm t y cn wrt ncmprhnsbl gbbrsh mch mr ffctvly. Ls y sv smll mnt f typng. Ian. (sorry) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject o

Re: [RFC] Binary packages containing the source

2010-09-22 Thread Julien Cristau
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 11:39:01 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Going by what multiarch proposed and apt already supports that should be > > apt-get install linux-2.6:src > > where "src" is just another architecture (at least for the user > interface). > Why do people hate vowels so much?

Re: [RFC] Binary packages containing the source

2010-09-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hector Oron writes: > Dear developers, > > ABSTRACT > How to enable in some special cases a way to allow one source > package have multiple maintainers within Debian archive. It might be better to say they have different flavours which should (out of practicallity) or must be build on their ow

Re: [RFC] Binary packages containing the source

2010-09-22 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Josselin Mouette writes: > Le jeudi 16 septembre 2010 à 03:08 +0200, Jakub Wilk a écrit : >> * Hector Oron , 2010-09-15, 21:26: >> > c) allow build depends on source packages, which it is probably a worst >> > idea. >> >> On the contrary, I think that allowing source packages to be installab

Re: Oracle’s Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel - is th ere more to it?

2010-09-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 4:44 PM, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > Oracle recently announced [1] their own 2.6.32-based Unbreakable Enterprise > Kernel for their RHEL derivative called Oracle Linux. The announcement > promises severe performance improvements compared to the stock RHEL kernel. > > Do you

Oracle’s Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel - is there more to it?

2010-09-22 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Dear kernel team and -devel, Oracle recently announced [1] their own 2.6.32-based Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel for their RHEL derivative called Oracle Linux. The announcement promises severe performance improvements compared to the stock RHEL kernel. Do you know what patches they applied to

Re: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable

2010-09-22 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 09/22/2010 02:52 AM, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: [...] > [experimental/]unstable(sid)/testing(e.g squeeze)/stable > > *constantly* present and functioning all the time the same way. > > Then upon freeze we just copy the state of > unstable -> pending > testing(squeeze) -> frozen(squeeze, e.g

Re: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable

2010-09-22 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 08:52:09PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > NB I am having some deja vu that 'frozen' used to be used explicitly >in the archive... is that so? Indeed. That was before testing was introduced. > Then unstable/testing would roll further as usual, and pending->fro

Re: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable

2010-09-22 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 08:26:22AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:47:31 +0200 > Mike Hommey wrote: > > > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 07:31:45AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > > > Then unstable/testing would roll further as usual > > > > > > How does a major, disruptive, transi

Re: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable

2010-09-22 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:31:45 +0100 Neil Williams wrote: > So when and where are library transitions meant to occur? Transitions > are always disruptive, always cause some packages to be non-functional > or non-installable. There has to be somewhere (unstable) where libfoo2 > can be uploaded with

Re: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable

2010-09-22 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
On 09/22/2010 08:47 AM, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 07:31:45AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: >>> Then unstable/testing would roll further as usual >> >> How does a major, disruptive, transition get done? > > I think his proposal boils down to this: we *always* have unstable > and

Bug#597683: ITP: ukopp -- Full and incremental backup to disk or disk-like device

2010-09-22 Thread Alessio Treglia
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alessio Treglia * Package name: ukopp Version : 3.8 Upstream Author : Michael Cornelison * URL : http://kornelix.squarespace.com/ukopp/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : Full and incremental backu

Re: unstable/testing/[pending/frozen/]stable

2010-09-22 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 08:47:31 +0200 Mike Hommey wrote: > On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 07:31:45AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > > Then unstable/testing would roll further as usual > > > > How does a major, disruptive, transition get done? > > I think his proposal boils down to this: we *always* have