Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

2010-08-10 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Ian Zimmerman | So, out of 273 doc-containing packages on this system, just 70 bothered. | I feel a strong urge to put the commands in a script that will auto-file | a bug against any package in the output of the last command. How do | maintainers feel about that? I've never understood the p

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

2010-08-10 Thread brian m. carlson
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 06:08:50PM +, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > PDFs have titles too, and they can't be snarfed in any way I know of. pdftk will dump the info dictionary for PDFs, but if you want something a little less heavyweight, try: lakeview ok % zgrep -a '^/Title' /usr/share/doc/texmf/l

Bug#592572: ITP: Marave -- A text editor that helps you focus on writing.

2010-08-10 Thread Chris Silva
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Chris Silva * Package name: Marave Version : 0.7 Upstream Author : Roberto Alsina * URL : http://code.google.com/p/marave/ * License : GPL-2+ Programming Lang: Python Description : A text editor that helps you f

Notes from the DebConf Source Format BoF

2010-08-10 Thread Russ Allbery
After a discussion on IRC, I organized a BoF at DebConf10 to discuss new source formats, specifically 3.0 (git). Below are the notes from that discussion. I tried to take reasonably comprehensive notes, but I'm sure that I missed things. Other participants, please add any additional bits that I

Re: doc-base is hugely unloved; bug mass-filing needed?

2010-08-10 Thread Ian Zimmerman
Steve Langasek debian.org> writes: > But again, as Thomas points out, you can address this use case with much > less per-package effort. A centralized ten-line shell script would be > enough to locate all the installed packages on the system that ship files > under /usr/share/doc not matching th

Re: why are there /bin and /usr/bin...

2010-08-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 03:15:35AM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: > iputils-ping: /bin/ping6 > linux-gate.so.1 => (0xb770d000) > libresolv.so.2 => /lib/i686/cmov/libresolv.so.2 (0x472dc000) > libcrypto.so.0.9.8 => /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libcrypto.so.0.9.8 > (0x4882b000) > li

Re: why are there /bin and /usr/bin...

2010-08-10 Thread Bruce Sass
On August 10, 2010 03:53:10 pm Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Bruce Sass writes: > > I was curious so... > > $ for f in /bin/* /sbin/*; do if [ "`file $f | grep ELF`" != "" ] ; > > then if [ "`ldd $f | grep /usr`" != "" ] ; then echo `dpkg -S $f`; > > ldd $f; fi; fi; done > > iputils-ping: /bin/pin

Re: why are there /bin and /usr/bin...

2010-08-10 Thread brian m. carlson
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:53:10PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Bruce Sass writes: > > > I was curious so... > > $ for f in /bin/* /sbin/*; do if [ "`file $f | grep ELF`" != "" ] ; then > > if [ "`ldd $f | grep /usr`" != "" ] ; then echo `dpkg -S $f`; ldd $f; > > fi; fi; done > > iputil

Re: why are there /bin and /usr/bin...

2010-08-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 11:53:10PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Bruce Sass writes: > Note that there is /lib/libcrypt* (at least here). This is just the more > optimized flavour the ld.so picks when the cpu supports it. libcrypt != libcrypto. -- Steve Langasek Give me

Re: why are there /bin and /usr/bin...

2010-08-10 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Bruce Sass writes: > I was curious so... > $ for f in /bin/* /sbin/*; do if [ "`file $f | grep ELF`" != "" ] ; then > if [ "`ldd $f | grep /usr`" != "" ] ; then echo `dpkg -S $f`; ldd $f; > fi; fi; done > iputils-ping: /bin/ping6 > linux-gate.so.1 => (0xb770d000) > libresolv.so

Re: Usage of /var/lib for databases not properly described in policy

2010-08-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 10:29:39PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > I just tried to give some advise about proper placement of database > files in a Debian package and I was sure I could simply link to the > relevant paragraph in policy but there is none. Is the usage of > /var/lib/ just a reasonable

Re: More advanced home directory creation in Debian?

2010-08-10 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Ian Jackson] > So while it doesn't use run-parts, it's halfway there already. I > use adduser.local on chiark. Definitely useful, but not enought, as the debian-edu-config package would break policy if it included a file in /usr/local/, and only one package can provide this script at the time wh

Re: Usage of /var/lib for databases not properly described in policy

2010-08-10 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010, Andreas Tille wrote: > I just tried to give some advise about proper placement of database > files in a Debian package and I was sure I could simply link to the > relevant paragraph in policy but there is none. Is the usage of > /var/lib/ just a reasonable habit which is shared

Sprints (Was: (seasoned) bits from the DPL: comm, derivatives, delegations, money)

2010-08-10 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 04:30:14PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > - I've been contacting (thanks to Sune Vuorela and Michael Prokop) > people from the KDE e.V. board about their incredibly successful > sprint program [11]. I'm still fleshing out details (ATM we have > significantly less

Usage of /var/lib for databases not properly described in policy

2010-08-10 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, I just tried to give some advise about proper placement of database files in a Debian package and I was sure I could simply link to the relevant paragraph in policy but there is none. Is the usage of /var/lib/ just a reasonable habit which is shared by postgresql, mysql and probably others an

Re: chromium-browser from experimental has included h.264 by default?

2010-08-10 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Tue, 2010-05-11 at 20:55 +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > On 2010-05-11, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > > Surely not. Chromium ships a *private* copy of ffmpeg, more precisely, a > > fork of ffmpeg called ffmpeg-mt. Debian does not include ffmpeg-mt > > because of bug #575600 (tagged wontfix). Mor

Re: More advanced home directory creation in Debian?

2010-08-10 Thread Ian Jackson
Petter Reinholdtsen writes ("More advanced home directory creation in Debian?"): > It would be nice if all the tools copying /etc/skel/ also had a common > location for their "post-creating" scripts, making sure users created > by for example adduser, lwat, libpam-mkhomedir and libpam-mklocaluser >

Re: why are there /bin and /usr/bin...

2010-08-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Simon McVittie writes: > It might be worth having a Lintian check for the situation you describe, > since missing libraries will generally prevent the executable from > starting up at all, whereas missing bits of /usr/share or /var might not > be so important. Unfortunately, there isn't any way

Is Jonas Genannt MIA?

2010-08-10 Thread Ernesto Hernández-Novich
I am particularly interested in liblog-dispatch-perl [1] because it's blocking other things I need to fix in webgui. Regardless, his QA page shows little activity. Has anyone seen any sign of him? [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=576912 -- Ernesto Hernández-Novich - @iamemhn -

Re: why are there /bin and /usr/bin...

2010-08-10 Thread Bruce Sass
On August 10, 2010 04:25:07 am Simon McVittie wrote: > On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 at 03:15:35 -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: > > AFAICT, the reason is so that a minimal but functional system is > > guaranteed to exist so long as a local HDD with a root filesystem > > is available > > The fact that you can use i

Re: why are there /bin and /usr/bin...

2010-08-10 Thread Bruce Sass
On August 10, 2010 04:18:10 am Stanislav Maslovski wrote: > On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 03:15:35AM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: > > /sbin and /usr/sbin, /lib and /usr/lib directories? > > > > AFAICT, the reason is so that a minimal but functional system is > > guaranteed to exist so long as a local HDD wit

Re: why are there /bin and /usr/bin...

2010-08-10 Thread Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
Simon McVittie wrote: > The FHS says mkfs.* have to be on the root filesystem. I'm not entirely clear > why this is. Well, I personally believe this holds for at least two of the purposes listed in FHS Chapter 3: * To enable recovery and/or repair of a system * To restore a system To recover a d

Re: why are there /bin and /usr/bin...

2010-08-10 Thread Simon McVittie
On Tue, 10 Aug 2010 at 03:15:35 -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: > AFAICT, the reason is so that a minimal but functional system is > guaranteed to exist so long as a local HDD with a root filesystem is > available The fact that you can use it for troubleshooting/repairs is a nice (and desirable) side-e

Re: why are there /bin and /usr/bin...

2010-08-10 Thread Stanislav Maslovski
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 03:15:35AM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: > /sbin and /usr/sbin, /lib and /usr/lib directories? > > AFAICT, the reason is so that a minimal but functional system is > guaranteed to exist so long as a local HDD with a root filesystem is > available (which doesn't necessarily inc

why are there /bin and /usr/bin...

2010-08-10 Thread Bruce Sass
/sbin and /usr/sbin, /lib and /usr/lib directories? AFAICT, the reason is so that a minimal but functional system is guaranteed to exist so long as a local HDD with a root filesystem is available (which doesn't necessarily include /usr); and that is a good thing to have because it gives develop

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