Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 26 juillet 2010 à 14:57 -0400, Andres Mejia a écrit : > Here's a template reportbug prints out for iceweasel. [snip] > Versions of packages iceweasel depends on: > ii debianutils 3.4Miscellaneous utilities specific > t > ii fontconfig2.8.0-2

Natasha Jones has invited you to open a Google mail account

2010-07-26 Thread Natasha Jones
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Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Mon, 26 Jul 2010, Michael Gilbert wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:49:00 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Simply, we do not need to, and should not, make reporting bugs easier. > > As a point of reference, Ubuntu disabled their easy-to-find http bug > submission page because of this very probl

Re: Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 26 juillet 2010 à 20:19 +0200, Magnus Berg a écrit : > And you wonder: "How to make Debian more attractive for users". :-) > > First thing: Average Linux user may not be very interested in spam > hunting. > Second thing: If you intend to be attractive for the average Linux > user - Ubuntu

Re: Bug#590527: ITP: mussh -- MUltihost SSH Wrapper

2010-07-26 Thread Jacob Luna Lundberg
Hi Holger, On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 12:46:16AM -0400, Holger Levsen wrote: > how is that different to dsh, already present in Debian? They are similar. They have even both been around for a fair while now without recent changes. I find mussh a little more convenient to use. Also, mussh is ju

Re: Bug#590527: ITP: mussh -- MUltihost SSH Wrapper

2010-07-26 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Jacob, On Montag, 26. Juli 2010, Jacob Luna Lundberg wrote: > * Package name: mussh > > Mussh is a shell script that allows you to execute a command > or script over ssh on multiple hosts with one command. When > possible mussh will use ssh-agent and RSA/DSA keys to minimize > the need to

Bug#590536: ITP: openpyxl -- module to read/write Excel 2007 xlsx/xlsm files

2010-07-26 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Yaroslav Halchenko * Package name: openpyxl Version : 1.0.1 Upstream Author : Eric Gazoni * URL : http://bitbucket.org/ericgazoni/openpyxl/ * License : Expat Programming Lang: Python Description : module to read

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Arief M Utama
Le 26/07/2010 10:26, Arief M Utama a écrit : Olivier, If you need any help, I'd like to help creating the web-interface. I have some years of experience in php. All the best. -arief Thanks but it's Perl only :( Ahh.. :-( No possibilities to implement the interface in php while leavin

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Brian May
On 26 July 2010 21:49, Ian Jackson wrote: > Brian May writes ("Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: > The number  of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling"): >> I would really like to see a HTML/HTTP browser based interface for the >> BTS. I would have several advantages:

Bug#590527: ITP: mussh -- MUltihost SSH Wrapper

2010-07-26 Thread Jacob Luna Lundberg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jacob Luna Lundberg * Package name: mussh Version : 0.7 Upstream Author : dough...@doughnut.net * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/mussh/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: bash Description : MUltihost SSH Wr

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Fernando Lemos
2010/7/26 Jesús M. Navarro : > Hi, Ian: > > On Monday 26 July 2010 13:49:00 Ian Jackson wrote: >> Brian May writes ("Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: > Re: The number  of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling"): >> > I would really like to see a HTML/HTTP browser based inte

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Will
6, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Marc Haber wrote: > On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:32:49 -0400, Will wrote: >>Additionally, an HTTP interface to reportbug would be a good idea. >>Many new users find it difficult or unnecessary to set up an MTA when >>they first install, so allowing to use some kind of HTTP interfac

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Jesús M. Navarro
Hi Marc: On Monday 26 July 2010 17:54:29 Marc Haber wrote: > On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:32:49 -0400, Will wrote: > >Additionally, an HTTP interface to reportbug would be a good idea. > >Many new users find it difficult or unnecessary to set up an MTA when > >they first install, so allowing to use som

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Jesús M. Navarro
Hi, Ian: On Monday 26 July 2010 13:49:00 Ian Jackson wrote: > Brian May writes ("Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling"): > > I would really like to see a HTML/HTTP browser based interface for the > > BTS. I would have s

Re: Uploads without the architecture-dependant binary packages.

2010-07-26 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 09:59:45AM +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit : > Le Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 01:22:38AM +0100, Joerg Jaspert a écrit : > > > > > I found it interesting that a package like git-core is autobuilt on all > > > ports > > > since at upload time it only contains the source and > > > ar

Re: Moving ACL utilities to /bin?

2010-07-26 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Sun, 2010-07-25 at 22:16 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > Ideally POSIX ACLs should be binned and replaced wholesale with > NFS4 ACLs. You have my vote... but I guess that's rather difficult to get in all current filesystems and even for current developments (btrfs) only POSIX 1e ACLs are conside

Re: [pkg-nvidia-devel] Moving diversions between packages

2010-07-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Goswin von Brederlow writes: > Russ Allbery writes: >> Goswin von Brederlow writes: >>> But you are right, if your suggestion is to undo this in prerm then >>> there will be a long delay between undoing and redoing. But if you >>> fully undo things then programs will still start, they just won'

Bug#590495: ITP: phoneui-apps -- SHR applications

2010-07-26 Thread Sebastian Reichel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sebastian Reichel * Package name: phoneui-apps Version : 0.1+git20100303 Upstream Author : SHR project * URL : http://www.shr-project.org/ * License : GPLv3, CC-BY-SA Programming Lang: C Description : SHR applicat

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Magnus Berg writes: > And you wonder: "How to make Debian more attractive for users". :-) > First thing: Average Linux user may not be very interested in spam > hunting. Second thing: If you intend to be attractive for the average > Linux user - Ubuntu users for instance - keep in mind that mos

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010, Magnus Berg wrote: > > Magnus Berg wrote: > > > I think that sucks and I don't help you with sending any bug reports > > > because of that. > > > > See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=63995 > > And you wonder: "How to make Debian more attractive for users". :-)

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users

2010-07-26 Thread Russell Gadd
On 26 July 2010 17:31, Michael Gilbert wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:05:19 +0100, Russell Gadd wrote: > > I spotted this topic in Debian Project News. I am a non-technical Debian > > user (Lenny AMD 64 bit) - I have tried Ubuntu a couple of times but > came > > back to Debian because of its s

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users

2010-07-26 Thread Simon Paillard
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 04:24:43PM +0100, Nicholas Bamber wrote: > Paul Wise wrote: > >On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:21 PM, Nicholas Bamber > >wrote: > >>I reckon a forum would be much easier to finance (even with moderators) than > >>a phone line. It could probably be integrated with one of the mail

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Andres Mejia
On Monday 26 July 2010 11:54:29 Marc Haber wrote: > On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:32:49 -0400, Will wrote: > >Additionally, an HTTP interface to reportbug would be a good idea. > >Many new users find it difficult or unnecessary to set up an MTA when > >they first install, so allowing to use some kind of

Re: Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Magnus Berg
> Magnus Berg wrote: > > I think that sucks and I don't help you with sending any bug reports > > because of that. > > See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=63995 > > > Don Armstrong And you wonder: "How to make Debian more attractive for users". :-) First thing: Average Linux user

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Montag, 26. Juli 2010 schrieb Teemu Likonen: > * 2010-07-26 08:13 (+0200), Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >> * 2010-07-25 12:54 (+0200), Marc Haber wrote: > >>> stable = release > >>> testing = current > >>> unstable = development Yeah, I like it, too. This is better than the suggetion, with that I

Re: Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Lu, 26 iul 10, 18:42:06, Magnus Berg wrote: > Why is it neccecary to show mail adresses in bug reports and mail list? > This help spammers, take capacity from the internet and makes people who > are friendly to contribute once to bug reports and mail list crasy. I > think that sucks and I don't

Email addresses on web pages, was: Re: Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users

2010-07-26 Thread brian m. carlson
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 06:42:06PM +0200, Magnus Berg wrote: > Why is it neccecary to show mail adresses in bug reports and mail list? > This help spammers, take capacity from the internet and makes people who > are friendly to contribute once to bug reports and mail list crasy. I > think that suck

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010, Magnus Berg wrote: > I think that sucks and I don't help you with sending any bug reports > because of that. See http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=63995 Don Armstrong -- I shall require that [a scientific system's] logical form shall be such that it can be s

Re: Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Magnus Berg
Why is it neccecary to show mail adresses in bug reports and mail list? This help spammers, take capacity from the internet and makes people who are friendly to contribute once to bug reports and mail list crasy. I think that sucks and I don't help you with sending any bug reports because of that.

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread JPenny
Marc Haber wrote on 07/26/2010 12:00:28 PM: > Marc Haber > 07/26/2010 12:00 PM > > To > > debian-devel@lists.debian.org > > cc > > Subject > > Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The > number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling > > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:1

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 05:47:53PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote: > An HTTP interface for /manipulating/ (not necessarily submitting) bugs > would be a huge timesaver for me at least. Preliminary code for that has been around for a while now: . It's even p

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Bastian Venthur
Am 26.07.2010 17:21, schrieb Paul Wise: > On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Bastian Venthur wrote: > >> Yep, that's correct. I wish xdg-email would work as expected but it does >> not so I have to take care of each and every quirk of a MUA if it wants >> to be used by reportbug-ng. > > Shouldn't

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Roger Leigh
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 12:49:00PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Brian May writes ("Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: > The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling"): > > I would really like to see a HTML/HTTP browser based interface for the > > BTS. I would have

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users

2010-07-26 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:05:19 +0100, Russell Gadd wrote: > I spotted this topic in Debian Project News. I am a non-technical Debian > user (Lenny AMD 64 bit) - I have tried Ubuntu a couple of times but came > back to Debian because of its stability. The main problem I have is lack of > up to date

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users

2010-07-26 Thread Kumar Appaiah
(CCing OP, assuming he isn't subscribed) On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 05:05:19PM +0100, Russell Gadd wrote: > I spotted this topic in Debian Project News. I am a non-technical Debian > user (Lenny AMD 64 bit) - I have tried Ubuntu a couple of times but came > back to Debian because of its stability.

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users

2010-07-26 Thread Russell Gadd
I spotted this topic in Debian Project News. I am a non-technical Debian user (Lenny AMD 64 bit) - I have tried Ubuntu a couple of times but came back to Debian because of its stability. The main problem I have is lack of up to date Flash in the browser (Iceweasel) and I think this is a common pr

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 13:32:49 -0400, Will wrote: >Additionally, an HTTP interface to reportbug would be a good idea. >Many new users find it difficult or unnecessary to set up an MTA when >they first install, so allowing to use some kind of HTTP interface >would be very nice indeed. This will decr

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Marc Haber
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 08:13:29 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >On Sun, 25 Jul 2010, Teemu Likonen wrote: >> * 2010-07-25 12:54 (+0200), Marc Haber wrote: >> >> > stable = release >> > testing = current >> > unstable = development >> >> I like these. They describe the three distributions well and "c

Bug#590476: ITP: libdbix-class-helpers-perl -- Simplify the common case stuff for DBIx::Class

2010-07-26 Thread Antony Gelberg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Antony Gelberg Package name: libdbix-class-helpers-perl Version : 2.003002 Upstream Author : Arthur Axel "fREW" Schmidt URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/DBIx-Class-Helpers License : GPL / Artistic (as Perl) Prog

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:49:00 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Brian May writes ("Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: > The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling"): > > I would really like to see a HTML/HTTP browser based interface for the > > BTS. I would have sever

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 11:13 AM, Bastian Venthur wrote: > Yep, that's correct. I wish xdg-email would work as expected but it does > not so I have to take care of each and every quirk of a MUA if it wants > to be used by reportbug-ng. Shouldn't those quirks be moved into xdg-email? -- bye, pa

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Bastian Venthur
Am 26.07.2010 11:56, schrieb Raphael Hertzog: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010, Daniel Reurich wrote: >> (It would be easier still if sensible-utils included a "mail user agent" as >> well, >> then we could just call that.) Alternatively we could ask the user what >> mua they use (provide a list out of the

Bug#590469: ITP: jemris -- high performace computing MRI simulator

2010-07-26 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Yaroslav Halchenko * Package name: jemris Version : 2.3 Upstream Author : Tony Stöcker, Kaveh Vahedipour, Daniel Pflugfelder * URL : http://www.jemris.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : high

Bug#590465: ITP: gcc-4.5-armel -- The GNU Compiler Collection cross compilers (C, C++) for armel architecture.

2010-07-26 Thread Hector Oron
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Hector Oron * Package name: gcc-4.5-armel Version : 4.5 Upstream Author : many authors * URL : http://gcc.gnu.org * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : The GNU Compiler Collection cross compilers (C,C

Bug#590458: ITP: phoneuid -- SHR daemon for user interaction

2010-07-26 Thread Sebastian Reichel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sebastian Reichel * Package name: phoneuid Version : 0.1+git20100502 Upstream Author : SHR Project * URL : http://www.shr-project.org * License : GPLv3 Programming Lang: C Description : SHR daemon for user interac

Bug#590457: ITP: libphone-ui-shr -- SHR library for user interface, EFL backend

2010-07-26 Thread Sebastian Reichel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sebastian Reichel * Package name: libphone-ui-shr Version : 0.1+git20100726 Upstream Author : SHR Project * URL : http://www.shr-project.org * License : GPLv3 Programming Lang: C Description : SHR library for user

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Teemu Likonen
* 2010-07-26 08:13 (+0200), Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> * 2010-07-25 12:54 (+0200), Marc Haber wrote: >>> stable = release >>> testing = current >>> unstable = development > I would not introduce "release" but just keep "stable", it describes > the distribution well. Yes, that's it: stable - curre

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Ian Jackson
Brian May writes ("Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling"): > I would really like to see a HTML/HTTP browser based interface for the > BTS. I would have several advantages: I would strongly resist any such suggestion, fo

Bug#590450: ITP: daemonfs -- real time monitoring software

2010-07-26 Thread Alessio Treglia
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alessio Treglia * Package name: daemonfs Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Giorgio Wicklein * URL : https://launchpad.net/daemonfs * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : real time monitoring software

Bug#590444: ITP: python-django-extdirect -- Ext.Direct serverside implementation for Django

2010-07-26 Thread Michael Ziegler
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Ziegler * Package name: python-django-extdirect Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Michael Ziegler * URL : http://bitbucket.org/Svedrin/djextdirect * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Description : Ext

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010, Daniel Reurich wrote: > > > 2) store output in a file, read it, then copy/paste on my MUA : you call > > > that user friendly ? ;) > > > > No, but it's a viable solution (and I heard several people are already > > doing similar stuff). > > you could improve this and have it c

Re: Flag images

2010-07-26 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Magnus Holmgren | On onsdagen den 17 februari 2010, Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote: | > May be the size must be included into path? | > | > like | > flags/countires//16x10/ | > flags/countires//24x15/ | | Not all flags have the same aspect ratio. Pad them with transparent pixels, then? -

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Olivier Bonvalet
Le 26/07/2010 10:26, Arief M Utama a écrit : On 26/07/2010 06:08, Olivier Bonvalet wrote: PS: I don't know how much of this still belongs to d-devel (honestly, very few of the discussions about reportbug arisen from this thread does) and so you might probably want to move the conversation to re

Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Benjamin Drung wrote: > Am Donnerstag, den 22.07.2010, 10:20 +0200 schrieb Yves-Alexis Perez: > > On 21/07/2010 10:25, Paul Wise wrote: > > > They also currently have almost 20 times as many popcon submissions as > > > Debian and continuing growth: > > > > > > http://popc

Re: How to make Debian more attractive for users, was: Re: The number of popcon.debian.org-submissions is falling

2010-07-26 Thread Arief M Utama
On 26/07/2010 06:08, Olivier Bonvalet wrote: PS: I don't know how much of this still belongs to d-devel (honestly, very few of the discussions about reportbug arisen from this thread does) and so you might probably want to move the conversation to reportbug-ma...@lists.alioth.debian.org . I ag