On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 09:02:50PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Hmm, what's the risk of changing it? I guess if dependencies are allowed to
> be purged when a package depending on them is removed-but-not-purged,
> dbconfig-common could obliterate config files that the depending package
> expects
On Tue, Jun 01, 2010 at 01:13:28AM +0200, sean finney wrote:
> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 12:24:48PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Does dbconfig-common know about all of these config files?
> > I think it's the responsibility of dbconfig-common to track them, and remove
> > them on purge. That w
Felix Geyer dijo [Sat, May 29, 2010 at 09:14:56PM +0200]:
> clamz [1] has been rejected from Debian NEW [2] some time ago.
> The FTP assistent that processed the package was of the
> opinion that it belongs to contrib instead of main because it's
> only useful to download non-free content.
>
> The
Package: wnpp
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Owner: Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
* Package name: monitor-edid
Version : svn269700
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Philipp Kern wrote:
> Console emulators like zsnes are in main, I think because there used to be
> at least one free ROM it can be used with (be it useful or not).
It would probably be more consistent with clamz having been accepted into
main, to not require that emulators have a free rom in order
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Marc Haber
wrote:
> I fully agree. The grub situation is as with KDE: Old version
> abandoned, new version not finished.
Not exactly. I was testing KDE4 since 3.97 and it was quite
interesting and amusing. Not many people like to test bootloader on
themself, thou
>
> In retrospect, I probably could have used a better word than
> "difference". What I meant is that the package in question (clamz) is
> not in the same category as amarok. There can be legitimate debate on
> the issue for one, and no reasonable disagreement on the other.
Dear all,
for the r
hi,
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 12:24:48PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Does dbconfig-common know about all of these config files?
>
> I think it's the responsibility of dbconfig-common to track them, and remove
> them on purge. That way if your package is purged while dbconfig-common is
> install
This is probably because of the fundametal problem with the current
boot system in Debian, and the fact that the Linux kernel have become
event based and it is not possible to know in advance when a device
will be available during boot. It is basicly a race condition during
boot because the kernel
There is another issue related to getting user collaboration working
out of the box:
Users do not belong to the "users" group, thus creating
say /home/group/users as a (sgid) group directory to provide a way for
the users of a system to collaborate on something does not work.
Either adduser woul
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On 30.05.2010 23:40, brian m. carlson wrote:
>> A very similar software is already in Debian main:
>> Amarok contains two plugins that are able to download/stream
>> music from Magnatune and MP3tunes; both are music stores.
>>
> Amarok also plays music quite well without those. I never use Ma
I find it easier to use a newsreader instead of certain e-mail clients
for managing mailing
lists (I use Pan, as it has worked very well for me).
#
Here is a QUICK GUIDE:
1. Install Pan
2. Add a news server "news.gmane.org
3. Add your e-mail address
4. Subscribe to a news group e.g. "gm
Hi Evgeni,
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:32:06AM +0200, Evgeni Golov wrote:
> This means that we *try* to execute the postrm-hook of dbconfig-common
> in our postrm, but only if it's there. Policy 7.2 says "The Depends
> field should also be used if the postinst, prerm or postrm scripts
> require the
Michael Banck writes:
> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 05:13:51PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
>> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 07:03:16AM +0200, sean finney wrote:
>> > On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:40:48PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
>> > > The difference is that those tools provide a reasonable level of
]] sean finney
| On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 05:43:25PM +0200, Hilko Bengen wrote:
| > > You can find this repository at ftp://ftp.ethgen.de/pub/debian-security
| > > (deb ftp://ftp.ethgen.de/pub/debian-security sid unofficial-secured).
| >
| > To avoid confusion, please call your repository "debian
On 31.05.2010 19:55, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 05:13:51PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
>
>> I'll bite. amavis and spamassassin handle emails, and there are in fact
>> emails that are free. CVS commit emails for free software projects are
>> a great example of this.
>>
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 05:13:51PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
> On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 07:03:16AM +0200, sean finney wrote:
> > On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:40:48PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
> > > The difference is that those tools provide a reasonable level of
> > > functionality with free
> On Mon, 31 May 2010 12:49:28 +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> >Well, this method was grown since ages when reprepro was not available
> >and I hadn't the time to migrate a working method to a /nice/ working
> >method.
[Marc Haber]
> You should have taken that time before going public.
Seriously?
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 07:03:16AM +0200, sean finney wrote:
> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 09:40:48PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
> > The difference is that those tools provide a reasonable level of
> > functionality with free data. Weather information is in the public
> > domain because there's no
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 05:43:25PM +0200, Hilko Bengen wrote:
> > You can find this repository at ftp://ftp.ethgen.de/pub/debian-security
> > (deb ftp://ftp.ethgen.de/pub/debian-security sid unofficial-secured).
>
> To avoid confusion, please call your repository "debian-security-ng".
or perhaps
For a long time, I have wished the Debian installer would
automatically install the right packages on the servers I have. If it
detect a RAID controller using the cpqarray kernel module, the
cpqarrayd package should be installed. If a RAID controller using the
mptscsih kernel module is detected,
* Klaus Ethgen:
> cause of the recent umask disaster I decided to start a repository for
> packages which are insecure in debian distribution.
>
> You can find this repository at ftp://ftp.ethgen.de/pub/debian-security
> (deb ftp://ftp.ethgen.de/pub/debian-security sid unofficial-secured).
To avo
On Mon May 31 2010 06:45:14 Marc Haber wrote:
> On Mon, 31 May 2010 10:15:26 +0100, Klaus Ethgen
> wrote:
> >The point is that I cannot live with the insecure debian packages at
> >all.
>
> Are you trying to actively harm Debian? If so, please choose other
> words. You are not a native speaker and
David Kalnischkies wrote:
> The only thing i can see from this "hint" is that dependencies are
> missing. Fine, i guess i have talked about nothing else so far.
> Whatever causes the removal of gnat-4.3 can e.g. also "Breaks"
> all the packages who missed proper dependencies before.
(side note: I
On Mon, 31 May 2010 15:56:38 +0200, Josip Rodin
wrote:
>So all this "lilo needs to die now, everyone quickly get grub2" talk does
>look a fair bit premature. Cynics might say amateurish or worse, YMMV.
>grub2 won't magically get better if we just throw more users at it.
I fully agree. The grub si
2010/5/31 Ludovic Brenta :
> David Kalnischkies wrote:
>> 2010/5/30 Ludovic Brenta :
>>> The consequence is that, despite the fact that these packages are
> broken
>>> (without the need for a Breaks: in their successor packages, BTW),
>>> aptitude prefers to leave them installed rather than remove
Dirk Eddelbuettel writes:
> On 25 May 2010 at 06:59, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
> | Dirk Eddelbuettel writes:
> | > Every now and then mini-dinstall throws us a curve ball. Right now I am
> | > seeing the errors below on my testing box (which is otherwise current).
> | >
> | > What can we do t
So, you say, "concern myself with patent issues", and Reinhard
says, "ignore the patent issues".
No! If feel the need to quote us, please do it at least correctly!
Reinhard did not say to "ignore the patent issue". He asked you to
stop throwing oil on the fire, as the whole media patent story h
Am Mon, 31 May 2010 15:28:20 +0200
schrieb Marc Haber:
> I really like the idea of having all "Debian-exim" accounts with the
> same UID on all systems as this incredibly eases moving things
As Yves suggested, maybe start testing a username => [1000..2]
hash algorithm and conflict resolution
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:08:21AM +0100, Chris Carr wrote:
> On 25/05/2010 10:00, Harald Braumann wrote:
>> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 10:39:52PM -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
>>> (4) Users need to test grub2 now.
>>
>> I've been using grub2 for quite some time now on several different
>> systems wit
On Mon, 31 May 2010 12:49:28 +0100, Klaus Ethgen
wrote:
>Well, this method was grown since ages when reprepro was not available
>and I hadn't the time to migrate a working method to a /nice/ working
>method.
You should have taken that time before going public.
Greetings
Marc
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On Mon, 31 May 2010 10:15:26 +0100, Klaus Ethgen
wrote:
>The point is that I cannot live with the insecure debian packages at
>all.
Are you trying to actively harm Debian? If so, please choose other
words. You are not a native speaker and obviously don't have a clue of
what you're saying.
Greeti
Am Mon, 31 May 2010 12:17:54 +0200
schrieb Harald Braumann:
> > I believe this completes the checks (see below)
>
> I don't, and that is what I meant by wishful thinking. Nowhere is it
> guaranteed that it works this way.
Could you please be a little more specific and try to provide a counter
On Sun, 30 May 2010 19:12:49 +0100, Klaus Ethgen
wrote:
>You can find this repository at ftp://ftp.ethgen.de/pub/debian-security
>(deb ftp://ftp.ethgen.de/pub/debian-security sid unofficial-secured).
I would like to ask you to refrain from using the string
"debian-security" in your pathnames.
Gr
On Sun, 30 May 2010 19:57:13 +0200, "C. Gatzemeier"
wrote:
>I found useradd (not adduser) is part of passwd (not base-passwd),
>would that be that central tool to take care of debian requirements?
useradd is a portable tool. We should not make any semantic changes to
that. Adduser is the debian t
On Mon, 31 May 2010 07:58:45 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez
wrote:
>On dim., 2010-05-30 at 20:46 +0200, C. Gatzemeier wrote:
>> Not a 100% sync, since any conflicts will need to be resolved, but quite
>> good for systems with sparse users. Also for reinstalling/replacing
>> systems, because it makes th
David Kalnischkies wrote:
> 2010/5/30 Ludovic Brenta :
>> The consequence is that, despite the fact that these packages are
broken
>> (without the need for a Breaks: in their successor packages, BTW),
>> aptitude prefers to leave them installed rather than remove them; this
>> in turn blocks upgra
On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 14:18:57 +, Clint Adams wrote:
> On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 10:57:56PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> > > Was this request ever actually made to the kfreebsd porters? I'm not sure
> > > that it was, in which case it's rather unfair to say that they've had
> > > enough
On Sun, 30 May 2010 15:02:41 +0100, Stephen Gran
wrote:
>This one time, at band camp, Marc Haber said:
>> I am not a very good friend of just counting. I would try to somehow
>> hash the user name into the UID since this will - at least on systems
>> with only a handful of users - enhance the chan
On Mo, Mai 31, 2010 at 14:44:08 (CEST), Ron Johnson wrote:
>> what licensing issues do you see in rtmpdump, ffmpeg or mplayer?! they
>> are all (L)GPL which is perfectly DFSG compatible. Before you come up
>> with FUD about patents, DMCA, etc. - pretty please don't. there is
>> already enough FUD
2010/5/30 Ludovic Brenta :
> David Kalnischkies writes:
>> 2010/5/29 Ludovic Brenta :
>>> David Kalnischkies writes:
No. Replaces is used to say to dpkg: It is okay that this package
overrides files of the other package - otherwise dpkg would complain
loudly for good reasons. It do
On 05/31/2010 12:54 AM, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
On dim., 2010-05-30 at 21:18 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
Clamz just moves some bits from Point A to Point B.
I hope you don't use this as a definition of dfsg-free?
Hardly.
My (possibly flawed) thinking was originally raised here:
http://lists
Il giorno lun, 31/05/2010 alle 09.27 -0300, Fernando Lemos ha scritto:
> xmame-sdl is in contrib, though. I find it hard to draw the line
> between main and contrib unless there's non-free depends, it's all
> very subjective.
xmame-sdl is in non-free, IIRC.
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On 05/31/2010 03:21 AM, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
There must be a good *reason* why Christian still maintains ffmpeg
and mplayer in d-m.o even though same-named packages are also in
Debian.
Maybe he likes the extra work??
Maybe because he activates some 5 more built-in encoders in ffmpeg and
lin
On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 5:24 AM, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On 2010-05-30, brian m. carlson wrote:
>> The difference is that those tools provide a reasonable level of
>> functionality with free data. Weather information is in the public
>> domain because there's no originality to it. Most programs t
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Am Mo den 31. Mai 2010 um 10:49 schrieb Neil Williams:
> At the very least, the public key should be available on the server
> itself and it should preferably be in an archive-keyring package in
> Debian.
Sure. And I plan to do so. But for the
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 03:49:25PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
>
> [Harald Braumann]
> > Why would you create such a mixed system? I don't see a usecase for
> > that.
>
> You should not really allow your lack of imagination to limit what
> computer systems can handle. :)
>
> Here at the Un
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 12:34:38PM +0200, C. Gatzemeier wrote:
>
> Thank you Harald for scrutinizing.
>
> Am Fri, 28 May 2010 14:50:27 +0200
> schrieb Harald Braumann:
>
> If that externel system means to have UPGs, but does not support
> propper ID allignment (like debian, at least in the last
On Mon, 31 May 2010 06:42:57 +0200
Christian PERRIER wrote:
> Quoting Klaus Ethgen (kl...@ethgen.de):
> > cause of the recent umask disaster I decided to start a repository for
> > packages which are insecure in debian distribution.
and which are hosted in an unverifiable repository. Hmmm.
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Am Mo den 31. Mai 2010 um 5:42 schrieb Christian PERRIER:
> > This repository holds secured packages of the insecure debian packages
> > just without the insecure patch (or the insecurity patched). The full
> > sources are available to build. At the
There must be a good *reason* why Christian still maintains ffmpeg
and mplayer in d-m.o even though same-named packages are also in
Debian.
Maybe he likes the extra work??
Maybe because he activates some 5 more built-in encoders in ffmpeg and
links it against some 5 more libraries like libmp3l
On 2010-05-30, brian m. carlson wrote:
> The difference is that those tools provide a reasonable level of
> functionality with free data. Weather information is in the public
> domain because there's no originality to it. Most programs that display
> lyrics or album covers are music players, and
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