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2010-05-02 Thread Thomas Harding
Problem was : God himself borned answer was : just do logical ,,Armaggedon operation starded'' self test code ok 1 last 2 branches mission test code nown for 3 familes from one only 1 eva gender same branch born family. branche test succesful condition seems ok 1 test condition seems done for

Bug#580005: ITP: otf-apanov-heuristica -- derivative font of Adobe's Utopia typeface, with improvements

2010-05-02 Thread Rogério Brito
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: otf-apanov-heuristica Version : 0.2.1 Upstream Author : Andrey V. Panov * URL : http://code.google.com/p/evristika/ * License : SIL Open Font License Programming Lang: Fontforge + Python scripts Description

Re: Confused by .la file removal vs static linking support

2010-05-02 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 02 mai 2010 à 11:57 -0500, Steve M. Robbins a écrit : > One example is scientific users that need to ensure reproducibility of > computer experiments [1] over many years: one technique used is to > statically link the code and quarantine it so that it isn't disturbed > by system librar

Re: Bug#579177: ITP: xul-ext-monkeysphere -- Iceweasel/Firefox extension for using Monkeysphere on the web

2010-05-02 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 18:44 -0400, Jameson Graef Rollins wrote: > * Package name: xul-ext-monkeysphere > Version : 0.1 The package description could mention that this is an early/alpha/experimental release, to avoid deception (and encourage feed-back) > Description : Icewease

Re: Bug#579147: ITP: libapp-cpanminus-perl -- Get, unpack, build and install modules from CPAN

2010-05-02 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 18:12 +, Jeremiah C. Foster wrote: > > * Package name: libapp-cpanminus-perl > Description : Get, unpack, build and install modules from CPAN > > A dependency free, zero configuration, and stand alone CPAN module > installer. Maintainable and extensible with

Re: Bug#579692: ITP: libtest-inter-perl -- framework for more readable interactive test scripts

2010-05-02 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 22:03 +0100, Chris Butler wrote: > Package: wnpp > Owner: Chris Butler > Severity: wishlist > X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org > > * Package name: libtest-inter-perl > Version : 1.01 > Upstream Author : Sullivan Beck >

Re: Bug#579600: ITP: sigrok -- Crossplatform logic analyzer and protocol decoder software

2010-05-02 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 00:41 +0200, Uwe Hermann wrote: > Owner: Uwe Hermann > > * Package name: sigrok > Version : 0.1 Version is 0.1... the package description could mention that the software is an early release (alpha/experimental), to avoid deception (and encourage feed-back). >

Re: Bug#579569: ITP: ants -- advanced normalization tools for brain and image mapping

2010-05-02 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 13:23 -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > > * Package name: ants > Description : advanced normalization tools for brain and image mapping > > The ANTS package is designed to enable researchers with advanced tools for > brain and image mapping.

Re: Bug#579675: ITP: goban -- Goban screensaver

2010-05-02 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
Hello, On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 22:36 +0400, Al Nikolov wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Al Nikolov > > > * Package name: goban > Version : 1.1 > Upstream Author : Scott Draves > * URL : http://draves.org/goban/ > * License : GPL > Program

Re: Confused by .la file removal vs static linking support

2010-05-02 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 23:54:02 02.05.2010 UTC+04 when yo...@debian.org did gyre and gimble: >> For #includes that your library may do for its API (e.g. gobject). NVY> But libetpan's public headers do not include any headers of those dependent NVY> packages, so it is not the case. NVY> Any othe

Re: Confused by .la file removal vs static linking support

2010-05-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nikita V. Youshchenko, le Sun 02 May 2010 23:54:02 +0400, a écrit : > > > > > > Static linking is resolved by providing a foo.pc file so that > > > > > > "pkg-config --static --libs foo" is all that's needed to find > > > > > > the right libs. > > > > > > > > > > This does not clarify the question

Re: Confused by .la file removal vs static linking support

2010-05-02 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> > > > > Static linking is resolved by providing a foo.pc file so that > > > > > "pkg-config --static --libs foo" is all that's needed to find > > > > > the right libs. > > > > > > > > This does not clarify the question about dependences. > > > > > > It does, because foo.pc won't work without its

Re: Confused by .la file removal vs static linking support

2010-05-02 Thread Samuel Thibault
Nikita V. Youshchenko, le Sun 02 May 2010 21:18:26 +0400, a écrit : > > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 15:30:37 +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > > > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:46:23 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > > > > (To actually statically link without the .la (or with an .la > > > > > 'mangled

Re: Confused by .la file removal vs static linking support

2010-05-02 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> I wouldn't > necessarily downgrade the -dev package dependencies: often they are > there not only for the static lib, but also because your library's > includes will #include files from other libs it depends on, so all > users of your -dev package may need the depended-upon -devs. So it > will d

Re: Confused by .la file removal vs static linking support

2010-05-02 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 15:30:37 +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:46:23 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > > > (To actually statically link without the .la (or with an .la > > > > 'mangled' to empty the dependency_libs field) largely amounts to > > > > reconstruct

Re: Confused by .la file removal vs static linking support

2010-05-02 Thread Steve M. Robbins
I'm a little alarmed at the attitude that "no one cares about static linking" so that it's okay to drop the .a files. Likely relatively few people care, but there are some that do. One example is scientific users that need to ensure reproducibility of computer experiments [1] over many years: one

Re: Proposed changes to the Debian Machine Usage Policy (DMUP)

2010-05-02 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, i just applied the following patch from Stefano Zacchiroli. 3b5a642da4b800dfde386df835e57b5d86f4 diff --git a/DMUP b/DMUP index 8aba26e..ced6cd0 100644 --- a/DMUP +++ b/DMUP @@ -55,9 +55,9 @@ Debian Machine Usage Policies Systems Administration and convince DSA that the

Re: Proposed changes to the Debian Machine Usage Policy (DMUP)

2010-05-02 Thread Stephen Leake
Martin Zobel-Helas writes: > I took the opportunity to also fix some other minor stuff in the current > version of the document. Please note that this is a first draft, not the > final version, which needs to be announced as per delegation to > debian-devel-announce. > > ... > > Find attached my

Re: Confused by .la file removal vs static linking support

2010-05-02 Thread Frans Pop
Neil Williams wrote: > But does any package in Debian actually do the static linking? A few udebs use static linking to avoid the need for separate udebs for certain libraries. It also helps to reduce memory usage as only needed symbols are linked in. It's only used in a few specific cases; the

Proposed changes to the Debian Machine Usage Policy (DMUP)

2010-05-02 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, the Debian Project Leader recently asked DSA in his delegation[1] to fix a flaw in the current version of the DMUP, the fact that expulsions are DAM's domain, and not our's. I took the opportunity to also fix some other minor stuff in the current version of the document. Please note that this

Re: Confused by .la file removal vs static linking support

2010-05-02 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 15:30:37 +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > > On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:46:23 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > > (To actually statically link without the .la (or with an .la 'mangled' > > > to empty the dependency_libs field) largely amounts to reconstructing > > > the i

Re: Confused by .la file removal vs static linking support

2010-05-02 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Nikita V. Youshchenko [100502 11:27]: > (3) looks like plain inconsistency: package will provide .a file, but not > ensure things required for using .a file into system. I think (3) is the best you can do if you assume the .a file is usefull to anyone. If someone wants to link to the .a file, t

Re: Confused by .la file removal vs static linking support

2010-05-02 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:46:23 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > (To actually statically link without the .la (or with an .la 'mangled' > > to empty the dependency_libs field) largely amounts to reconstructing > > the information that was in the .la originally. That should be > > sufficient disin

Bug#579924: ITP: iptraf-ng -- Interactive Colorful IP LAN Monitor

2010-05-02 Thread Frederic Peters
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Frederic Peters Owner: Frederic Peters * Package name: iptraf-ng Version : 1.0.2 Upstream Author : Gerard Paul Java * URL : https://fedorahosted.org/iptraf-ng * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : I

Re: Confused by .la file removal vs static linking support

2010-05-02 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, May 2, 2010 at 11:46:23 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > (To actually statically link without the .la (or with an .la 'mangled' > to empty the dependency_libs field) largely amounts to reconstructing > the information that was in the .la originally. That should be > sufficient disincentive t

Re: Confused by .la file removal vs static linking support

2010-05-02 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 2 May 2010 13:17:08 +0400 "Nikita V. Youshchenko" wrote: > I'm going to unload a new version, and, among other things, I was > going to remove .la file, per release-goal (Thanks for the reminder, the lack of a bug report led to me completely forgetting that I meant to do something about

Confused by .la file removal vs static linking support

2010-05-02 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
Hi I maintain a library package, libetpan. I'm going to unload a new version, and, among other things, I was going to remove .la file, per release-goal In http://ftp-master.debian.org/~aba/la/current.txt, package is listed as 'libetpan: dependency_libs', so I thoughty I just need to remove .la