Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 08:53 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > The primary one I'm unhappy with is its deleting part of the upstream > > tarball with (AFAIK) no warning and no control. (That is, if upstream > > have a debian dir, it gets nuked, rather than us collaborating on it). > > That's a fea

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Sun, 21 Feb 2010, Robert Collins wrote: > On Sat, 2010-02-20 at 14:25 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > > > This wiki page still misses a "Disadvantages of new format" > > section. > > > > It's a wiki, feel free to add it. I know some people unhappy with the > > new > > format but I do

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 20, Alexander Wirt wrote: > source 3.0 (quilt) is still missing tools to make it working out of the box. > If you quilt not only in debian packages its fucking annoying that you need > to change to patch of your patches from patches/ to debian/patches depending > on what you are working on

Re: Flag images

2010-02-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 06:05:41PM +0100, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Dmitry E. Oboukhov (un...@debian.org): > > PW> As an example of the practical effects of flags in the context of > > PW> Debian; a number of years ago we lost our kernel maintainer, partially > > PW> because KDE in Debian

Bug#570729: ITP: libmoosex-types-json-perl -- module providing JSON-constrained strings

2010-02-20 Thread Jonathan Yu
Package: wnpp Owner: Jonathan Yu Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libmoosex-types-json-perl Version : 0.02 Upstream Author : Michael Langner * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/MooseX-Types-JSO

Re: klibc only initramfs

2010-02-20 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:02:24PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > The reason would be size. I don't see anything else there. > For network based boots, specifically high performance cluster, the size > can make a real difference. When you turn the cluster on it is not just > one system downl

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Robert Collins
On Sat, 2010-02-20 at 14:25 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > This wiki page still misses a "Disadvantages of new format" > section. > > It's a wiki, feel free to add it. I know some people unhappy with the > new > format but I don't know many technical disadvantages. The primary one I'm unh

Re: How to track patches and debian versions of packages

2010-02-20 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010, Santiago Vila wrote: > Hello. > > In the process of converting my packages to the new 3.0 source format, > I'd like to log somewhere that a certain patch was applied for the > first time in a certain debian version of a given package. > > Is there a DEP3 header for that, or m

Bug#570691: ITP: libstatistics-online-perl -- pure Perl implementation of the on-line algorithm to produce statistics

2010-02-20 Thread Joenio Costa
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Joenio Costa * Package name: libstatistics-online-perl Version : 0.02 Upstream Author : Francesco Nidito * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Statistics-OnLine/ * License : Artistic or GPL-1+ Programming Lang: Perl D

How to track patches and debian versions of packages

2010-02-20 Thread Santiago Vila
Hello. In the process of converting my packages to the new 3.0 source format, I'd like to log somewhere that a certain patch was applied for the first time in a certain debian version of a given package. Is there a DEP3 header for that, or maybe such information is not supposed to be in the patch

Bug#570673: ITP: enforcer -- Maven build rule execution framework

2010-02-20 Thread Gabriele Giacone
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Gabriele Giacone <1o5g4...@gmail.com> * Package name: enforcer Version : 1.0~beta2 Upstream Author : Brian Fox * URL : http://maven.apache.org/enforcer/ * License : Apache 2.0 Programming Lang: java Description :

Re: klibc only initramfs

2010-02-20 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2010-02-20, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > For network based boots, specifically high performance cluster, the size > can make a real difference. When you turn the cluster on it is not just > one system downloading an extra meg but 100+ nodes. That largely > increases the network collisions, err

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Marco Túlio Gontijo e Silva
Hi Alexander. Excerpts from Alexander Wirt's message of Sáb Fev 20 10:07:55 -0200 2010: > Alexander Wirt schrieb am Saturday, den 20. February 2010: (...) > > > > >http://wiki.debian.org/Projects/DebSrc3.0#WhyshouldIconvertmypackageto3.0.28quilt.29format.3F > > > > > And the last thing I want to

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri Feb 19, 2010 at 18:51:11 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Marc Haber wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:08:16PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > > * More than 1000 source packages[4] are already using

Re: Changes in dpkg Pre-Depends

2010-02-20 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 20, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I've seen this for other safety-critical tools, e.g. the dar backup tool > which comes both as "dar" and "dar-static". I personally don't believe > there would be *much* use of "dpkg-static", but having it around for a > release would enable to see if/how ma

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010, Alexander Wirt wrote: > Things would be much easier for starters if dpkg would ship its own patch > helpers like push, pop and create patch. A 3.0 format which is working out of > the box without installing quilt and without the need to set QUILT_PATCHES > would be a real bene

Bug#570644: ITP: virtualenvwrapper -- extension to virtualenv for managing multiple virtual Python environments

2010-02-20 Thread Jan Dittberner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jan Dittberner * Package name: virtualenvwrapper Version : 1.24.2 Upstream Author : Doug Hellmann * URL : http://www.doughellmann.com/projects/virtualenvwrapper/ * License : ISC Programming Lang: Python Description

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread gregor herrmann
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 09:25:14 +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > I don't see any valid reason to convert packages which already use a > > patch system such as dpatch to the new thing. Debian is in dire need > > of manpower taking care of our core infrastructure, converting > > dpatch-based packages to q

Re: klibc only initramfs

2010-02-20 Thread Michael Banck
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:02:24PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Michael Tokarev writes: > > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> I googled a bit and found this old mail about a klibc only initramfs: > >> > >> http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2006/07/msg00400.html > >> > >> I would reall

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Alexander Wirt
Alexander Wirt schrieb am Saturday, den 20. February 2010: > Mike Hommey schrieb am Saturday, den 20. February 2010: > > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 09:03:10AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > > > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:51:11 +0100, Raphael Hertzog > > > wrote: > > > >On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Marc Haber wro

Re: klibc only initramfs

2010-02-20 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 20, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > For network based boots, specifically high performance cluster, the size > can make a real difference. When you turn the cluster on it is not just > one system downloading an extra meg but 100+ nodes. That largely > increases the network collisions, errors

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Alexander Wirt
Mike Hommey schrieb am Saturday, den 20. February 2010: > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 09:03:10AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:51:11 +0100, Raphael Hertzog > > wrote: > > >On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Marc Haber wrote: > > >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:08:16PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wro

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Fri Feb 19, 2010 at 18:51:11 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Marc Haber wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:08:16PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > * More than 1000 source packages[4] are already using the new source > > > formats "3.0 (quilt)" and "3.0 (na

Re: klibc only initramfs

2010-02-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Michael Tokarev writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I googled a bit and found this old mail about a klibc only initramfs: >> >> http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2006/07/msg00400.html >> >> I would really like to do this and it has been close to 4 years since >> that mail. B

Request for volunteers for symfony packaging

2010-02-20 Thread Federico Giménez Nieto
Hi all, I'm in the process of packaging the 1.4 branch of symfony [1], [2], an open source php framework for creating web applications. It embeds copies of code of php-based software not present in the archive, in particular propel, doctrine, swift and phing. I am currently working in one of them

Re: converting from dpatch to quilt

2010-02-20 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Stefan Fritsch writes: > On Saturday 20 February 2010, Mike Hommey wrote: >> > I don't see any valid reason to convert packages which already >> > use a patch system such as dpatch to the new thing. Debian is in >> > dire need of manpower taking care of our core infrastructure, >> > converting dp

Re: klibc only initramfs

2010-02-20 Thread Michael Tokarev
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Hi, > > I googled a bit and found this old mail about a klibc only initramfs: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2006/07/msg00400.html > > I would really like to do this and it has been close to 4 years since > that mail. But it doesn't look like there has be

converting from dpatch to quilt (was: Misc developer news (#21))

2010-02-20 Thread Stefan Fritsch
On Saturday 20 February 2010, Mike Hommey wrote: > > I don't see any valid reason to convert packages which already > > use a patch system such as dpatch to the new thing. Debian is in > > dire need of manpower taking care of our core infrastructure, > > converting dpatch-based packages to quilt is

Re: Changes in dpkg Pre-Depends

2010-02-20 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 12:15:10AM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote: > First, I'd like to change the dpkg Pre-Depends from lzma to xz-utils, > the latter is a bit bigger in size (lzma 172 KiB; xz-utils 504 KiB, > 160 KiB in share/doc/ and liblzma2 304 KiB, 124 KiB in share/doc/) but This just seems the

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 09:03:10AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:51:11 +0100, Raphael Hertzog > wrote: > >On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Marc Haber wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:08:16PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > >> > * More than 1000 source packages[4] are already using

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Ben Finney
Marc Haber writes: > I don't see any valid reason to convert packages which already use a > patch system such as dpatch to the new thing. Debian is in dire need > of manpower taking care of our core infrastructure, converting > dpatch-based packages to quilt is a total waste of manpower. This ig

Re: Misc developer news (#21)

2010-02-20 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:51:11 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Marc Haber wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 12:08:16PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: >> > * More than 1000 source packages[4] are already using the new source >> > formats "3.0 (quilt)" and "3.0 (native)". Have