On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 09:30:04PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> I'm glad to see that Peter has approved of your NMU proposal, as
> migrating away from hand-rolled debian/rules files is a goal that
> I heartily support. However, your original question was one of
> etiquette, and I don't think tha
Marco d'Itri wrote:
On May 31, md wrote:
The issue was raised by the udev upstream maintainer along with the udev
package maintainers of the major distributions, who all agreed that this
configuration is not supported.
FYI, udev 146 ships usb-id and pci-id programs which read
/usr/share/misc/u
Hi Craig,
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 10:57:30PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
> (Please CC me on replies as i'm not subscribed to debian-devel)
> it's been a long time since I've done this, so i'd like to know what
> the current etiquette is for an NMU.
> arpwatch has had only sporadic NMU updates si
Ryan Niebur writes:
> On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 07:53:26PM -0700, Ben Pfaff wrote:
>> Ryan Niebur writes:
>>
>> > This is a sparc only FTBFS, and none of us own a sparc machine. Does
>> > anybody have a spare one they could let me (or somebody else in the
>> > Perl group) ssh into to debug it?
>>
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On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 07:53:26PM -0700, Ben Pfaff wrote:
> Ryan Niebur writes:
>
> > This is a sparc only FTBFS, and none of us own a sparc machine. Does
> > anybody have a spare one they could let me (or somebody else in the
> > Perl group) ssh into to debug it?
>
> http://db.debian.org/machi
Ryan Niebur writes:
> This is a sparc only FTBFS, and none of us own a sparc machine. Does
> anybody have a spare one they could let me (or somebody else in the
> Perl group) ssh into to debug it?
http://db.debian.org/machines.cgi lists a number of Debian sparc
machines.
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Hi,
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 07:12:47PM -0700, Ryan Niebur wrote:
>
> This is a sparc only FTBFS, and none of us own a sparc machine. Does
> anybody have a spare one they could let me (or somebody else in the
> Perl group) ssh into to debug it?
>
the upstream author of libdevel-declare-perl thin
On Sep 01, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Why do programs need udev to read this information in at driver load time?
> Why can't packages that need this information query it when they need it
> (which is well after /usr is mounted), instead of expecting udev to provide
> it?
I did not design this aspect
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Hi,
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 10:50:38PM +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> > Failed Test Stat Wstat Total Fail List of Failed
> > ---
> > t/combi.t 010?? ?? ??
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On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 17:21:28 -0400, Felipe Sateler wrote:
> Julien Cristau wrote:
>
> > FWIW, I'm not going to use something that I can't produce with git
> > format-patch and feed to git send-email / git am since that feels like
> > busy work; in particular the Author and Description fields
Is doc-base lacking a section for SSH clients/servers and other remote control
software? Sure, you can transfer files and monitor other computers using SSH,
but that's not all you can do.
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Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 01:56:35 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I made some last changes to the DEP following round 4. You'll find them
>> below. I plan to switch the DEP's status to CANDIDATE since it's about
>> time to start using this new format to try
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 05:24:19AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > The issue was raised by the udev upstream maintainer along with the udev
> > package maintainers of the major distributions, who all agreed that this
> > configuration is not supported.
> FYI, udev 146 ships usb-id and pci-id progra
On tisdagen den 1 september 2009, Andreas Barth wrote:
> Hi,
>
> currently there is the large mysql / octave / hdf* / nattle /
> ...-transition going on which includes about 170 source package
> changes and about 120 binary changes (recompilations) for every arch.
"nattle"?
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Neil McGovern wrote:
Do we only support network configuration with DHCP now?
That's not the point, the slightly off-topic point we got onto was that
you can in fact share / between hosts if you're using DHCP. I don't
think the FHS supports it, but I can see uses for it in places.
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Some time ago one of our users contributed deb packages. There is even
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On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 04:47:54PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 15:36 +0100, Chris Jackson a écrit :
> > Well, /etc needs to be on /, since otherwise you can't get to fstab to
> > mount it, and generally things like /etc/hostname will be different, so,
> > while
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 01:56:35 +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I made some last changes to the DEP following round 4. You'll find them below.
> I plan to switch the DEP's status to CANDIDATE since it's about time to start
> using this new format to try it out. Once I've done this, I'
On Sep 01, Gabor Gombas wrote:
> How about re-running the rules after all the filesystems have been
> mounted?
No.
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On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 01:45:23PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > How will usb-id and pci-id behave, if the ids files are not accessible?
> Print an error on stderr and exit with rc=1.
> The more interesting question is which packages care about this
> information and how they will behave when it
1 сентября 2009 19:11:06 Leo "costela" Antunes писали:
> Ivan Borzenkov wrote:
> >> If you support Windows drivers, you will support kernel-mode Windows
> >> trojans as well.
> >
> > trojans also need root access to system - in windows it's standart, in
> > linux not
>
> I'm not familiar with LUK,
Ivan Borzenkov wrote:
>> If you support Windows drivers, you will support kernel-mode Windows
>> trojans as well.
> trojans also need root access to system - in windows it's standart, in linux
> not
I'm not familiar with LUK, but by the description it seems you might be
missing the point: it does
1 сентября 2009 18:45:52 Josselin Mouette писали:
> Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 17:28 +0400, Ivan Borzenkov a écrit :
> > But also indows has many very good programs, and many drivers (LUK also
> > support Windows driver model), now worms and trojans works on wine, and
> > linux access system prot
Josselin Mouette wrote:
Ever heard of DHCP ?
Mmm, fair enough. Anyway, it isn't true that what's said about /usr also
applies to / since, once init is running (and a little before that), we
definitely have a /, but may not have a /usr yet, or /usr may fail to
mount. I'm not 100% sure wheth
Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 15:36 +0100, Chris Jackson a écrit :
> Well, /etc needs to be on /, since otherwise you can't get to fstab to
> mount it, and generally things like /etc/hostname will be different, so,
> while I suppose it's theoretically possible, I'd take it also to be
> somewhat
Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 17:28 +0400, Ivan Borzenkov a écrit :
> But also indows has many very good programs, and many drivers (LUK also
> support Windows driver model), now worms and trojans works on wine, and linux
> access system protect linux from viruses in wine, also no autorun and man
Josselin Mouette wrote:
/ is shareable as well, if you mount it read-only.
Everything that has been said about /usr in this thread can also be said
about /, so please think about it before making propositions.
Well, /etc needs to be on /, since otherwise you can't get to fstab to
mount it,
* Colin Tuckley (col...@debian.org) [20090901 14:32]:
> Looking in the database, Peter Kelemen doesn't seem to have been
> around for about 2 years. I suspect MIA proceedings need to be
> started if they haven't been already.
I'm still lurking... Adoption has been t
Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 13:41 +0100, Chris Jackson a écrit :
> Well, /usr is supposed to be shareable between hosts; forcing it to be
> on the same filesystem as / is very sub-optimal.
/ is shareable as well, if you mount it read-only.
Everything that has been said about /usr in this threa
1 сентября 2009 16:09:02 Ron Johnson писали:
> Windows has so many viruses, worms and trojans, is it really wise to
> open the Linux kernel to infection by Windows malware?
But also indows has many very good programs, and many drivers (LUK also
support Windows driver model), now worms and trojans
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On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 11:18:47AM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> Josselin Mouette wrote:
> >Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 10:32 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen a
> >écrit :
> >>In Debian, /usr/ is allowed to be on NFS.
> >
> >So is /.
>
> I was thinking the same, but #441291 (root over nfs) is st
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Quoting Craig Sanders :
(Please CC me on replies as i'm not subscribed to debian-devel)
it's been a long time since I've done this, so i'd like to know what
the current etiquette is for an NMI.
arpwatch has had only sporadic NMU updates since 2004. I've packaged
the latest version and applied
(Please CC me on replies as i'm not subscribed to debian-devel)
it's been a long time since I've done this, so i'd like to know what
the current etiquette is for an NMI.
arpwatch has had only sporadic NMU updates since 2004. I've packaged
the latest version and applied a bunch of patches from th
Mike Hommey wrote:
An interesting corollary is how will upgraded systems behave ? A lot of
the currently installed ones have a separate /usr. It would be a shame to
tell users they have to reinstall (or go through hoops to put /usr in /)
Well, /usr is supposed to be shareable between hosts; f
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 03:01:35PM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote:
> Jonas Meurer wrote:
> >do we really consider to stop support for seperate /usr? after all fhs
> >supports seperate /usr by design. [1]
> >i hope that we keep fhs compability within debian.
>
> I agree, but the problem is "how?
Jonas Meurer wrote:
do we really consider to stop support for seperate /usr? after all fhs
supports seperate /usr by design. [1]
i hope that we keep fhs compability within debian.
I agree, but the problem is "how?".
Moving too much thinkgs from /usr to / is also against
the design of FHS, thus
hey,
On 01/09/2009 Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 01:45:23PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> > On Sep 01, Michael Biebl wrote:
> >
> > > Wouldn't make it sense then if udev had a recommends or at least suggests
> > > for
> > > usbutils and pciutils?
> > Yes, the next upload (today i
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 12:37:38PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> maybe that is an issue for debian-user, so I put it in the To too
> although I am not subscribed there.
What exactly do you want to discuss on -devel which is not appropriate
on the bug report or on -user?
That bugs should get fixed?
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Charles Plessy wrote:
> Here is my current plan:
>
> - Open a RC bug on samtools to prevent testing migration.
> - Upload a new samtools package where -fPIC is enabled.
> - Upload libbio-samtools-perl to NEW.
> - Open a RC bug on libbio-samtools-perl prevent testing migration
>after it is
Le Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 11:21:37AM +0200, Vincent Danjean a écrit :
> Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 09:49 +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
> >> I started to write a message about to ask upstream why they do not make a
> >> shared version of libbam, but I am blocked becaus
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On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 01:45:23PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Sep 01, Michael Biebl wrote:
>
> > Wouldn't make it sense then if udev had a recommends or at least suggests
> > for
> > usbutils and pciutils?
> Yes, the next upload (today in experimental maybe) will do this.
>
> > How will u
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Hi,
maybe that is an issue for debian-user, so I put it in the To too
although I am not subscribed there.
If you look to Bug #497617 there is a long time bug in apt first only
targeting the German translations but now it is independent of the
local
On Sep 01, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Wouldn't make it sense then if udev had a recommends or at least suggests for
> usbutils and pciutils?
Yes, the next upload (today in experimental maybe) will do this.
> How will usb-id and pci-id behave, if the ids files are not accessible?
Print an error on st
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[Josselin Mouette]
> Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 10:32 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen a écrit :
>> In Debian, /usr/ is allowed to be on NFS.
>
> So is /.
Perhaps, but it is not a supported solution which need to be handled
by all packages. /usr/ on NFS on the other hand is a supported
solution tha
Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 09:49 +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
>> I started to write a message about to ask upstream why they do not make a
>> shared version of libbam, but I am blocked because I could not give good
>> reason
>> of why Debian can not make -fPIC versi
Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 10:32 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen a écrit :
In Debian, /usr/ is allowed to be on NFS.
So is /.
I was thinking the same, but #441291 (root over nfs) is still open.
ciao
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Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 10:32 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen a écrit :
> In Debian, /usr/ is allowed to be on NFS.
So is /.
> Mounting NFS volumes from
> the initramfs is probably not worth the effort.
How do you make root on NFS work without this?
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Le mardi 01 septembre 2009 à 09:49 +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
> I started to write a message about to ask upstream why they do not make a
> shared version of libbam, but I am blocked because I could not give good
> reason
> of why Debian can not make -fPIC version of libbam.
You can build a
[Giacomo A. Catenazzi]
> I still think /usr standalone should be supported, but I agree with
> you that it could be difficult to support it in actual way.
>
> Thus: Are there any technical difficulties to mount usr in the
> standard initramfs?
> I don't think there are more "special" /usr environm
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Marco d'Itri wrote:
On May 31, md wrote:
The issue was raised by the udev upstream maintainer along with the udev
package maintainers of the major distributions, who all agreed that this
configuration is not supported.
FYI, udev 146 ships usb-id and pci-id programs which read
/usr/share/misc/u
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