Re: new package format

2009-07-31 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Eugene Gorodinsky | I also think some abstraction from the actual filesystem is a good | idea. For example currently the only way to install a lib in a | directory other than the one it was intended for is by using a hack | that would look at the directory of a file and move it somewhere. It |

Re: Spam on the lists [Was: Re: Account Upgrade (Unex)]

2009-07-31 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Sat, Aug 1, 2009 at 01:39, brian m. carlson wrote: > On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 02:24:28AM +0300, Eugene Gorodinsky wrote: >> Is there any way to actually make it harder to spam the list? I just >> subscribed and already see spam and phishing attacks... > > Yes.  There are infinitely many ways to m

Re: Orphaning debmirror

2009-07-31 Thread Jonathan Yu
Hi Frans: First of all, thanks very much for stepping up and offering to help maintain this package! :-) I should mention I've never used debmirror, and thus don't feel that I would make for a very competent maintainer of it. Nonetheless, I feel I'd be remiss if I didn't offer to help out, though

Re: waf into NEW, please test it with your packages

2009-07-31 Thread Ryan Niebur
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 02:48:37AM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Ryan Niebur (30/07/2009): > > would you mind providing a .deb of that so that I can test and update > > my dh build system patch to use it? > > waf deb? Check first mail in the thread. > ok, I misunderstood what Luca was saying.

Re: Bug#538202: ITP: virt-what -- detect if we are running in a virtual machine

2009-07-31 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
the easy usecase to me would be -- to install that package in every Debian guest, adjust my bash/zsh configuration so if the tool is present -- embed its output into the prompt. for now I use /etc/debian_chroot within chroots to alert myself that 'I am not at home' ;) On Thu, 30 Jul 2009, Russell

Why YAML is not a good choice for Debian control files.

2009-07-31 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 10:01:36AM -0400, Adrian Perez a écrit : > There's any plan of supporting another format - without breaking > compatibility, I mean supporting - besides the RFC one? > I think YAML would be a good one. Hello Adrian, I thought about YAML for machine-readable license summar

Account Upgrade (Xmission)

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Installation of packages in home directories.

2009-07-31 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:20:46PM +0200, Giacomo A. Catenazzi a écrit : > > Anyway RH has support to install packages in own homes. This kind of > abstraction could be nice to have. Hi all, I would really love to have such a functionality in apt. At work, we use shared workstations that run old

Re: new package format

2009-07-31 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:32:43PM +0300, Eugene Gorodinsky a écrit : > > Currently debian policy is to have a .desktop file for each GUI > program. What would be better, IMHO, is having some sort of > abstraction, so that the package manager itself would create a > .desktop file entry, given an i

Re: waf into NEW, please test it with your packages

2009-07-31 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Ryan Niebur (30/07/2009): > would you mind providing a .deb of that so that I can test and update > my dh build system patch to use it? waf deb? Check first mail in the thread. Mraw, KiBi. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Spam on the lists [Was: Re: Account Upgrade (Unex)]

2009-07-31 Thread brian m. carlson
On Sat, Aug 01, 2009 at 02:24:28AM +0300, Eugene Gorodinsky wrote: > Is there any way to actually make it harder to spam the list? I just > subscribed and already see spam and phishing attacks... Yes. There are infinitely many ways to make it harder to spam the list, among them: * Allowing posti

Re: Account Upgrade (Unex)

2009-07-31 Thread Eugene Gorodinsky
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Re: new package format

2009-07-31 Thread Russ Allbery
Adrian Perez writes: > This may not be relevant in here, but I felt the need to ask. > There's any plan of supporting another format - without breaking > compatibility, I mean supporting - besides the RFC one? There isn't any plan that I'm aware of. > I think YAML would be a good one. What wou

Re: Orphaning debmirror

2009-07-31 Thread Dmitry E. Oboukhov
GvB> I'm still looking for a new maintainer of debmirror and I'm GvB> considering orphaning the package now if nobody steps up. some time i had a bad connection to internet and tried to use debmirror and conditions forced me to write a patch for debmirror. but it wasnt applied with strange formula

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-07-31 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, Jul 31 2009, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> We do not want to have different helper package start inventing >> a helper specific way of building ddebs, with no clear standard tha >> they are following. > >> While archive coverage is nice, ensu

Re: multiarch: dependency-oriented vs package-oriented

2009-07-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:30:33PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Moreover, this is not the only exception. Thousands of desktop and server > >> packages that contains executable binaries (applications) compiled from > >> C/C++/Pascal/etc. also have arch-dependent reverse dependencies - pa

Re: Orphaning debmirror

2009-07-31 Thread Steve Kemp
On Fri Jul 31, 2009 at 18:47:58 +0200, Siggy Brentrup wrote: > Who wrote debmirror? Without installing I can't find out since > only maintainers are listed in the PTS. Look at the copyright file: e.g. http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/d/debmirror/debmirror_20070123/debmi

Re: Orphaning debmirror

2009-07-31 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 18:47, Siggy Brentrup wrote: > Who wrote debmirror?  Without installing I can't find out since > only maintainers are listed in the PTS.  I'm asking because but PTS has a link to the changelog: http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/d/debmirror/current/changelog

Re: Orphaning debmirror

2009-07-31 Thread Siggy Brentrup
Hi Goswin, on Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:51 +0200, you wrote: > I'm still looking for a new maintainer of debmirror and I'm > considering orphaning the package now if nobody steps up. > Debmirror is written in perl so you should have some grasp and love > for the language. No way. > I hate perl

Re: new package format

2009-07-31 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Klaus Ethgen writes: > Hi, > > Am Fr den 31. Jul 2009 um 13:32 schrieb Eugene Gorodinsky: >> Since programs usually store their settings in the user's home >> directory, that aren't deleted when the program is uninstalled the >> user's home directory becomes a mess. I'm not sure if it's possible

Re: Orphaning debmirror

2009-07-31 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Frans Pop writes: > I use debmirror (stable version) and am quite happy with it, so I'm > willing to take it. However, I'm not a perl expert and cannot promise > super active maintenance. I can try to at least keep it working though. > > If anybody else wants to take it, feel free. If someone w

Re: Please test eglibc 2.9-23+multiarch.1

2009-07-31 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 12:22:02PM +0200, Bastian Blank wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 06:02:29PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > We have the constraints that we should support upgrades from Lenny, so > > we are stuck with apt/aptitude from lenny... > > Remove the dependency from libc-bin. As l

Re: new package format

2009-07-31 Thread Eugene Gorodinsky
2009/7/31 Giacomo A. Catenazzi : > Eugene Gorodinsky wrote: >> >> 2009/7/31 Giacomo A. Catenazzi : >>> >>> Eugene Gorodinsky wrote: (in my oppinion this area can be vastly improved, and I'm interested in contributing). >>> >>> What are the problems of actual format? >>> >> For one th

Re: new package format

2009-07-31 Thread Adrian Perez
Hello. This may not be relevant in here, but I felt the need to ask. There's any plan of supporting another format - without breaking compatibility, I mean supporting - besides the RFC one? I think YAML would be a good one. IMHO there is stuff that could be somehow automated, then reviewed, but no

Re: new package format

2009-07-31 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, Am Fr den 31. Jul 2009 um 13:32 schrieb Eugene Gorodinsky: > Since programs usually store their settings in the user's home > directory, that aren't deleted when the program is uninstalled the > user's home directory becomes a mess. I'm not sure

Re: new package format

2009-07-31 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Eugene Gorodinsky wrote: 2009/7/31 Giacomo A. Catenazzi : Eugene Gorodinsky wrote: (in my oppinion this area can be vastly improved, and I'm interested in contributing). What are the problems of actual format? For one the dependencies are specified as actual packages, rather than the actual

Re: new package format

2009-07-31 Thread brian m. carlson
On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 03:32:43PM +0300, Eugene Gorodinsky wrote: > On windows a program may contain some optional components, which you > can choose at install time. This approach (I mean having some main > package and some required and some optional subpackages inside it) is > quite user-friend

Re: new package format

2009-07-31 Thread Sebastian Krause
Eugene Gorodinsky wrote: > On windows a program may contain some optional components, which you > can choose at install time. This approach (I mean having some main > package and some required and some optional subpackages inside it) is > quite user-friendly. Neither dpkg nor apt have this functio

Re: new package format

2009-07-31 Thread Eugene Gorodinsky
2009/7/31 Giacomo A. Catenazzi : > Eugene Gorodinsky wrote: >> >> Hi all >> I've read the debian news announcement today >> (http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090730). What got me very >> interested was the part about a new package format > > There are two changes: one about the source package form

Re: Orphaning debmirror

2009-07-31 Thread Frans Pop
I use debmirror (stable version) and am quite happy with it, so I'm willing to take it. However, I'm not a perl expert and cannot promise super active maintenance. I can try to at least keep it working though. If anybody else wants to take it, feel free. If someone would like to co-maintain, th

Re: new package format

2009-07-31 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Eugene Gorodinsky wrote: Hi all I've read the debian news announcement today (http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090730). What got me very interested was the part about a new package format There are two changes: one about the source package format (a true format change) and about binary package

Re: new package format

2009-07-31 Thread Sebastian Krause
Eugene Gorodinsky wrote: > I've read the debian news announcement today > (http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090730). What got me very > interested was the part about a new package format (in my oppinion > this area can be vastly improved, and I'm interested in contributing). > Searching the list

Orphaning debmirror

2009-07-31 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi, I'm still looking for a new maintainer of debmirror and I'm considering orphaning the package now if nobody steps up. Description: Debian partial mirror script, with ftp and package pool support This program downloads and maintains a partial local Debian mirror. It can mirror any combinatio

new package format

2009-07-31 Thread Eugene Gorodinsky
Hi all I've read the debian news announcement today (http://www.debian.org/News/2009/20090730). What got me very interested was the part about a new package format (in my oppinion this area can be vastly improved, and I'm interested in contributing). Searching the list archives I was unable to find

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-07-31 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 02:18:49PM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote: >> I've written down the details in the wiki [2], and I'll appreciate >> it if you could give some feeback. I don't want to trash this >> completely though, so no drastic changes preferred :) > > I

Re: multiarch: dependency-oriented vs package-oriented

2009-07-31 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek writes: > On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 11:20:20PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> You raise an interesting point there with -dbg packages. Esspecially >> considering the Google SoC project that wants to automatically build >> -dbg packages for everything in debian. Those .ddeb pac

Re: Please test eglibc 2.9-23+multiarch.1

2009-07-31 Thread Bastian Blank
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 06:02:29PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > We have the constraints that we should support upgrades from Lenny, so > we are stuck with apt/aptitude from lenny... Remove the dependency from libc-bin. As long a libc-bin does not have maintainer scripts, this should work. Basti

Re: Automatic Debug Packages

2009-07-31 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > We do not want to have different helper package start inventing > a helper specific way of building ddebs, with no clear standard tha > they are following. > While archive coverage is nice, ensuring that a ddeb is > properly defined, and that all the

Re: multiarch: dependency-oriented vs package-oriented

2009-07-31 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
>> I would still want that multi-arch dependencies would be specified at >> one straight place, not two. > > For most things it will be the depended on package. Your suggestion > would make it always be in 2 places (co-installability in the library, > depends in the dependee). I think the proposed

Re: multiarch: dependency-oriented vs package-oriented

2009-07-31 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Eugene V. Lyubimkin" writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" writes: >> >>> Goswin von Brederlow wrote: "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" writes: >> 2) Tagging package relationships instead of packages means extending >> the syntax of package relationsships, trusting t

Bug#539375: ITP: remotetea -- ONC/RPC for Java package

2009-07-31 Thread Picca Frédéric-Emmanuel
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org --- Please fill out the fields below. --- Package name: remotetea Version: 1.0.7 Upstream Author: Harald Albrecht URL: http://remotetea.sourceforge.net/ License: LGPL Description: ONC/