Re: The wider implications of debhelper/dbus breakage

2009-07-16 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Michael Biebl] > Would it make sense to avoid the upload of "obviously" broken > packages from buildds in the future. E.g. if lintian detects an > error it would need some special inspection from the buildd uploader. Don't all buildd binary packages already need "special inspection" from a buil

Re: mail server broken: are debian reject messages logged ?

2009-07-16 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 16/07/09 at 16:40 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > > But probably the bugs people could export such a list in an easy > > parseable way that one could regular fetch. > > bts select pkg:wnpp users:w...@packages.debian.org tag:itp > > which assumes that t

Re: The wider implications of dbus breakage

2009-07-16 Thread Michael Biebl
Roger Leigh schrieb: > > If you run a current unstable system, with a default (empty) > xorg.conf this disables C-A-Fn and C-A-Bksp to switch to a > virtual terminal or kill a dead X server. I noticed that if you You are mixing a few things here: C-A-Bksp disabled by default is an Xorg upstream

Re: The wider implications of debhelper/dbus breakage

2009-07-16 Thread Michael Biebl
Roger Leigh schrieb: > Some people may have recently been bitten by #537125. > This mail isn't about that bug in particular, though it did > certainly expose the fragility of systems depending upon dbus. Blaming this on D-Bus is not fair. It could have happened to any other package. Heaven forbid

Work-needing packages report for Jul 17, 2009

2009-07-16 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 396 (new: 2) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 131 (new: 4) Total number of packages request

The wider implications of dbus breakage

2009-07-16 Thread Roger Leigh
Some people may have recently been bitten by #537125. This mail isn't about that bug in particular, though it did certainly expose the fragility of systems depending upon dbus. If you run a current unstable system, with a default (empty) xorg.conf this disables C-A-Fn and C-A-Bksp to switch to a v

Re: mail server broken: are debian reject messages logged ?

2009-07-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > But probably the bugs people could export such a list in an easy > parseable way that one could regular fetch. bts select pkg:wnpp users:w...@packages.debian.org tag:itp which assumes that the ITPs are properly tagged with the itp usertag for the w...@p

Re: Conflicting assignment of privileged ports on boot, once again

2009-07-16 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 09:06:56PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: > Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > Hi, > > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/306007> and > > http://www.novell.com/support/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&externalId=7002186&sliceId=1&docTypeID=DT_TID_1_1&dialog

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 08:25:19PM +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: > Should we improve how we communicate in the project? One thing I want to turn your attention in addition to what the others wrote is that -devel looks like the wrong list to me for this kind of discussion. I think -project would be m

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Philipp Kern
Hi, On 2009-07-16, Sandro Tosi wrote: > today ries (aka ftp-master) was down due to a scheduled maintenance activity. more or less scheduled, as already stated. > Now, scheduled means programmed, and suddenly this question comes to > me: should the project be notified of such core activities? s

Re: [Debconf-discuss] keysi gning in Cáceres: list and keyring files were released

2009-07-16 Thread Aníbal Monsalve Salazar
On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:09:19AM +0300, Damyan Ivanov wrote: >-=| Aníbal Monsalve Salazar, Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 01:46:39PM +1000 |=- >>On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 08:47:13PM +1000, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote: >>>The kesignings in Cáceres during DebConf9 will be done as >>>suggested by Don Armstron

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11813 March 1977, Sandro Tosi wrote: > Should we improve how we communicate in the project? Shouldn't there > be more information on what's moving "behind the scenes"? It's just me > that would like to know it? First there wasnt much notice (as people already said), but also second: The thing

Re: mail server broken: are debian reject messages logged ?

2009-07-16 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11813 March 1977, Philipp Kern wrote: > grep 'Subject: ITP:' /org/bugs.debian.org/spool/db-h/NN/NN.summary. If > you want, you could also match up the source package name. > Now you'll say that's not reliable. Maybe not, but a pretty strong indication > and very few misdirected mails won

Re: Conflicting assignment of priviledged ports on boot, once again

2009-07-16 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <20090716105202.ga18...@logic.at> you wrote: > What is currently the expert way to avoid/handle such port conflicts > in Debian? Afaik the outcome was, that daemons should only use random priveledged ports which are not in services file. Gruss Bernd -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debia

Re: How to get all dependent source packages

2009-07-16 Thread Paul Wise
apt-src might be useful to you. -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: [Debconf-discuss] keysi gning in Cáceres: list and keyring files were released

2009-07-16 Thread Damyan Ivanov
-=| Aníbal Monsalve Salazar, Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 01:46:39PM +1000 |=- > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 08:47:13PM +1000, Anibal Monsalve Salazar wrote: > >The kesignings in Cáceres during DebConf9 will be done as > >suggested by Don Armstrong in his mail message available at: > > > > http://lists.debcon

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hi Ben, thanks for this and previous reply I didn't acknowledged (and all others, of course ;) ) On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 23:04, Ben Hutchings wrote: > advance notice, since many people do not use #debian-devel. do not or can not: many company firewalls have IRC ports closed (in general, only 80 i

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 21:24 +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 20:16:06 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 20:25 +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > today ries (aka ftp-master) was down due to a scheduled maintenance > > > activity. > >

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread John Goerzen
Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > If you think we (DSA) are doing a bad job, please feel free to attand > DSA BoF on DC9 and lets talk about it there. That implies to me that this is the only way to discuss the issue. Is that what you meant to imply? I hope not; there are many people that can contribu

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hi Martin, thanks for replying (with your DSA hat on :) ). On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 21:24, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 20:16:06 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: >> On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 20:25 +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > today ries (aka ftp-master) was down

Bug#537301: ITP: libcpandb-perl -- Perl module for working with the unified CPAN database

2009-07-16 Thread Jonathan Yu
Package: wnpp Owner: Jonathan Yu Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: libcpandb-perl Version : 0.02 Upstream Author : Adam Kennedy * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/CPANDB/ * License : Artistic | GPL-1+ Programming

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread James Vega
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 08:16:06PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 20:25 +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: > > Hi all, > > today ries (aka ftp-master) was down due to a scheduled maintenance > > activity. > > > > Now, scheduled means programmed, and suddenly this question comes to > >

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
Hi! Ben Hutchings schrieb: >> Now, scheduled means programmed, and suddenly this question comes to >> me: should the project be notified of such core activities? should we >> only relay on #debian-devel irc channel topic to know this? > This is what debian-infrastructure-announce is for (though >

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, On Thu Jul 16, 2009 at 20:16:06 +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 20:25 +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: > > Hi all, > > today ries (aka ftp-master) was down due to a scheduled maintenance > > activity. > > > > Now, scheduled means programmed, and suddenly this question comes to

Re: Conflicting assignment of privileged ports on boot, once again

2009-07-16 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Mike Hommey] > Interestingly, none of the tcp ports between 600 and 1024 that are > listed in /etc/services appear in this file. Even more interesting, > none of the ports in the /etc/bindresvport.blacklist are in > /etc/services. Really? This is from my sid chroot: % for n in $(awk '{print $1

Re: Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2009-07-16 at 20:25 +0200, Sandro Tosi wrote: > Hi all, > today ries (aka ftp-master) was down due to a scheduled maintenance activity. > > Now, scheduled means programmed, and suddenly this question comes to > me: should the project be notified of such core activities? should we > only re

Re: Conflicting assignment of privileged ports on boot, once again

2009-07-16 Thread Julien BLACHE
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: Hi, > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/306007> and > http://www.novell.com/support/search.do?cmd=displayKC&docType=kc&externalId=7002186&sliceId=1&docTypeID=DT_TID_1_1&dialogID=67050089&stateId=0%200%2067048399> > report of a bug in the parsing of t

Bug#537292: ITP: grdc -- remote desktop client based on GTK+ and GNOME

2009-07-16 Thread Luca Falavigna
Package: wnpp Owner: Luca Falavigna Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: grdc Version : 0.6.0 Upstream Authors: Vic Lee * URL : http://grdc.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPLv2+ Programming Lang: C Description :

Bug#537293: ITP: grdc-gnome -- GNOME applet for grdc

2009-07-16 Thread Luca Falavigna
Package: wnpp Owner: Luca Falavigna Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: grdc-gnome Version : 0.6.0 Upstream Authors: Vic Lee * URL : http://grdc.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPLv2+ Programming Lang: C Description

Re: Conflicting assignment of privileged ports on boot, once again

2009-07-16 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 07:46:14PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: > Gernot Salzer wrote: > > Hi, > > > - ... or is it up to the administrator to add the ports manually? > > That's it. The most common offenders are already in the list; if > you're seeing the problem routinely with a popular service

Should we improve our (internal) communication?

2009-07-16 Thread Sandro Tosi
Hi all, today ries (aka ftp-master) was down due to a scheduled maintenance activity. Now, scheduled means programmed, and suddenly this question comes to me: should the project be notified of such core activities? should we only relay on #debian-devel irc channel topic to know this? ries is not

Re: Conflicting assignment of privileged ports on boot, once again

2009-07-16 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Julien BLACHE] > That's it. The most common offenders are already in the list; if > you're seeing the problem routinely with a popular service that's > not on the list already, that'd be a wishlist bug against libc6. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/306007> and http://www.nov

Bug#537287: ITP: liborlite-mirror-perl -- ORLite extension to use remote SQLite databases

2009-07-16 Thread Jonathan Yu
Package: wnpp Owner: Jonathan Yu Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org * Package name: liborlite-mirror-perl Version : 1.16 Upstream Author : Adam Kennedy * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/ORLite-Mirror/ * License : Artistic | GPL-1+

Re: Conflicting assignment of privileged ports on boot, once again

2009-07-16 Thread Julien BLACHE
Gernot Salzer wrote: Hi, > - ... or is it up to the administrator to add the ports manually? That's it. The most common offenders are already in the list; if you're seeing the problem routinely with a popular service that's not on the list already, that'd be a wishlist bug against libc6. JB.

Bug#508585: hello

2009-07-16 Thread hope
Greetings my dear How are you today, i hope every things is ok with you, i am miss vivian, as is my pleassure to contact you after viewing your e-mail, I am really interest in having communication with you, so if you will have the desire with me so that we can get to know each other better and s

Bug#508585: hello

2009-07-16 Thread hope
Greetings my dear How are you today, i hope every things is ok with you, i am miss vivian, as is my pleassure to contact you after viewing your e-mail, I am really interest in having communication with you, so if you will have the desire with me so that we can get to know each other better and s

Bug#508585: hello

2009-07-16 Thread hope
Greetings my dear How are you today, i hope every things is ok with you, i am miss vivian, as is my pleassure to contact you after viewing your e-mail, I am really interest in having communication with you, so if you will have the desire with me so that we can get to know each other better and s

Re: Conflicting assignment of privileged ports on boot, once again

2009-07-16 Thread Gernot Salzer
> > What is currently the expert way to avoid/handle such port conflicts > > in Debian? > > /etc/bindresvport.blacklist Thanks for the hint, this is what I was looking for. So the world has moved since 2005, at list a bit. 873 (rsync) is not listed in this file. - Is this a "bug" in libc6? - ...

Bug#537268: ITP: verilog-perl -- building point for Verilog support in the Perl language

2009-07-16 Thread أحمد المحمودي
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "أحمد المحمودي" * Package name: verilog-perl Version : 3.2.11 Upstream Author : Wilson Snyder * URL : http://www.veripool.org * License : Artistic License 2.0 Programming Lang: C++, Perl Description : building p

How to get all dependent source packages

2009-07-16 Thread sha liu
Hi everyone, Is there any easy method to get all the *source* packages which are the build dependency of one package? What I want to do is building dpkg from source on a CLFS[0] system. So I have to get all the dpkg's dependency source packages and the dependency of dependency and so on...

Re: remastering ISOs to append boot options

2009-07-16 Thread Samuel Thibault
MaTa, le Thu 16 Jul 2009 08:13:24 +0200, a écrit : > • live-magic > • debian-cd > • simple-cdd > • live-helper I don't want to rebuild a whole CD from scratch, I want to just patch an existing debian installer image that I have downloaded (our bought and ripped), doing exactly what you men

Re: Conflicting assignment of priviledged ports on boot, once again

2009-07-16 Thread Julien BLACHE
Gernot Salzer wrote: Hi, > What is currently the expert way to avoid/handle such port conflicts > in Debian? /etc/bindresvport.blacklist JB. -- Julien BLACHE - Debian & GNU/Linux Developer - Public key available on - KeyID: F5D6 5169 GPG Fingerprint : 935A 79

Re: RFC: DEP-3: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-07-16 Thread sean finney
hi raphael, On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:16:01PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > How do you expect to recognize the real starting point for the fields? > The freetext might contain text that look like field names at the start > of a line... I don't think that requesting fields to be first in the p

Conflicting assignment of priviledged ports on boot, once again

2009-07-16 Thread Gernot Salzer
Hi, what is the collected wisdom nowadays on how to avoid random port conflicts when booting? In 2005 I wrote: "On boot some daemons (like nis/ypbind) obtain priviledged ports via portmap/bindresvport(). Portmap assigns ports that are not in use at the time of request, usually above 600. This str

Bug#537223: RFP: tinydns-run -- djbdns tinydns service

2009-07-16 Thread .coder
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package name: tinydns-run Version: Upstream Author: D. J. Bernstein URL: http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/tinydns.html License: Public Domain Description: djbdns tinydns service Currently there

Re: mail server broken: are debian reject messages logged ?

2009-07-16 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 12:00:11PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert a écrit : > > >> Yes, you can find them on merkel:/srv/ftp.debian.org/queue/reject/*.reason > > there are not many files there. Is there a place where the rejection mails > > to > > ‘NEW’ uploads are archived? Otherwise, how about sending th

Re: mail server broken: are debian reject messages logged ?

2009-07-16 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-07-16, Joerg Jaspert wrote: >>> Yes, you can find them on merkel:/srv/ftp.debian.org/queue/reject/*.reason >> there are not many files there. Is there a place where the rejection mails to >> ‘NEW’ uploads are archived? Otherwise, how about sending them to the >> package's >> ITP bug when

Bug#537227: ITP: kwstyle -- style checker for source code

2009-07-16 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mathieu Malaterre * Package name: kwstyle Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Julien Jomier * URL : http://public.kitware.com/KWStyle/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C++ Description : style checker for source c

Re: mail server broken: are debian reject messages logged ?

2009-07-16 Thread Joerg Jaspert
>> Yes, you can find them on merkel:/srv/ftp.debian.org/queue/reject/*.reason > there are not many files there. Is there a place where the rejection mails to > ‘NEW’ uploads are archived? Otherwise, how about sending them to the package's > ITP bug when available? There is no reliable way to dete