Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

2009-06-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Ben Finney writes: > Russ Allbery writes: >> If the original said "Copyright 1994 Foo Bar" and we instead said >> "Copyright 1992-1996 Foo Bar", is that reproducing the copyright >> notice? Personally, and not being a lawyer, I'd say the answer is >> obviously yes. There is a copyright notice an

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

2009-06-10 Thread Ben Finney
Russ Allbery writes: > If the original said "Copyright 1994 Foo Bar" and we instead said > "Copyright 1992-1996 Foo Bar", is that reproducing the copyright > notice? Personally, and not being a lawyer, I'd say the answer is > obviously yes. There is a copyright notice and it contains all of the >

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

2009-06-10 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:06:39AM +0200, Fabian Greffrath a écrit : > > If I understand the sentence in question correctly then the proposal > really requires me to create all three stanzas... that's insane! Dear Fabian, everything has been written earlier in this thread, so this is more a sum

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

2009-06-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Russ Allbery writes: > The BSD license says, in part: > > Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without > modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions > are met: > 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright >

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

2009-06-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Noah Slater writes: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 03:57:46PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Because we have to comply with licenses that say that we need to >> reproduce the copyright notice. > Don't we satisfy that requirement simply by packaging the source > files? I don't see how. Consider anoth

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

2009-06-10 Thread Noah Slater
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 03:57:46PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Noah Slater writes: > > Does Debian only care about listing copyright holders, as opposed to > > reproducing legally meaningful copyright statements? If so, why not > > just list names here, excluding the word "Copyright" and excludin

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

2009-06-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Robert Collins writes: > On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 15:57 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> >>> Does Debian only care about listing copyright holders, as opposed to >>> reproducing legally meaningful copyright statements? If so, why not >>> just list names here, excluding the word "Copyright" and excludin

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

2009-06-10 Thread Robert Collins
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 15:57 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > > Does Debian only care about listing copyright holders, as opposed to > > reproducing legally meaningful copyright statements? If so, why not > > just list names here, excluding the word "Copyright" and excluding > the > > years. > > Bec

Bug#532723: ITP: drush -- command line shell and Unix scripting interface for Drupal

2009-06-10 Thread The Anarcat
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: The Anarcat * Package name: drush Version : 2.0 Upstream Author : Moshe Weitzman * URL : http://drupal.org/project/drush * License : GPL Programming Lang: PHP Description : command line shell and Unix scripting

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

2009-06-10 Thread James Vega
On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 08:39:04AM +1000, Peter Miller wrote: > On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 13:53 +0100, Noah Slater wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:06:39AM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > > > If I understand the sentence in question correctly then the proposal > > > really requires me to create a

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

2009-06-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Noah Slater writes: > It depends what you hope to achieve by adding this information. > > Ranges of years are not legally recognised for copyright purposes, I looked at this a while back and saw no evidence that this was true, although of course I'm not a lawyer. I know that the FSF says to not

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

2009-06-10 Thread Noah Slater
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 10:44:33PM +, Sune Vuorela wrote: > The more I read about this [DEP5], the more I get the feeling that it is > only pushed by people who never maintained large source packages (that > can change rapidly) Why? We have been over this before. We are developing DEP 5 to co

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

2009-06-10 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-06-10, Peter Miller wrote: > > --=-N4erB4l6HGd3iNYSXuXj > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 13:53 +0100, Noah Slater wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:06:39AM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: >> > If I understand the sentence

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

2009-06-10 Thread Noah Slater
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:20:53PM +0200, Arthur de Jong wrote: > What I now would put in debian/copyright is: > Copyright (C) 2006-2008 Person A > Copyright (C) 2007-2008 Person B It depends what you hope to achieve by adding this information. Ranges of years are not legally recognised for c

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

2009-06-10 Thread Peter Miller
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 13:53 +0100, Noah Slater wrote: > On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:06:39AM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > > If I understand the sentence in question correctly then the proposal > > really requires me to create all three stanzas... that's insane! > > Why is it insane? I have a pr

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

2009-06-10 Thread Arthur de Jong
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 11:06 +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > I am sorry if it's just me who doesn't understand this sentence, but > please clarify the meaning of "...indicating files that have the same > licence and share copyright holders." in the current DEP-5 proposal > for the 'Files' field.

Bug#532710: ITP: libjifty-plugin-wikitoolbar-perl -- Jifty plugin to add a wiki toolbar to your textarea box

2009-06-10 Thread Yves AGOSTINI
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: AGOSTINI Yves * Package name: libjifty-plugin-wikitoolbar-perl Version : 0.9 Upstream Author : Yves Agostini, * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Jifty-Plugin-WikiToolbar/ * License : Perl Programming Lang: Perl Des

Bug#532708: ITP: libjifty-plugin-sitenews-perl -- Provide site news in your Jifty application

2009-06-10 Thread Yves AGOSTINI
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: AGOSTINI Yves * Package name: libjifty-plugin-sitenews-perl Version : 0.9 Upstream Author : Alex Vandiver * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Jifty-Plugin-SiteNews/ * License : Perl Programming Lang: Perl Descriptio

Bug#532707: ITP: libjifty-plugin-userpic-perl -- Provides user pictures for Jifty application

2009-06-10 Thread Yves AGOSTINI
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: AGOSTINI Yves * Package name: libjifty-plugin-userpic-perl Version : 0.9 Upstream Author : Alex Vandiver * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Jifty-Plugin-Userpic/ * License : Perl Programming Lang: Perl Description

Bug#532705: ITP: libjifty-plugin-openid-perl -- Provides OpenID authentication for your Jifty application

2009-06-10 Thread Yves AGOSTINI
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: AGOSTINI Yves * Package name: libjifty-plugin-openid-perl Version : 1.00 Upstream Author : Alex Vandiver * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Jifty-Plugin-OpenID/ * License : Perl Programming Lang: Perl Description

Bug#532703: ITP: lazr.uri -- library for parsing, manipulating, and generating URIs

2009-06-10 Thread James Westby
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: James Westby * Package name: lazr.uri (binary package python-lazr-uri) Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : lazr developers: https://launchpad.net/~lazr-developers * URL : https://launchpad.net/lazr.uri * License : LGPL (3 or

Bug#532699: ITP: libjifty-plugin-googlemap-perl -- GoogleMap plugin for Jifty

2009-06-10 Thread Yves AGOSTINI
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: AGOSTINI Yves * Package name: libjifty-plugin-googlemap-perl Version : 0.9 Upstream Author : Alex Vandiver * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Jifty-Plugin-GoogleMap/ * License : Perl Programming Lang: Perl Descript

Bug#532697: ITP: libjifty-plugin-comment-perl -- Add comments to any record of your Jifty application

2009-06-10 Thread Yves AGOSTINI
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: AGOSTINI Yves * Package name: libjifty-plugin-comment-perl Version : 0.9 Upstream Author : Andrew Sterling Hanenkamp, * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Jifty-Plugin-Comment/ * License : Perl Programming Lang: Perl

How to package a network connectivity daemon "the Debian way"

2009-06-10 Thread Bernhard Schmidt
[ resent, wasn't subscribed to -devel before ... apologies if duplicate ] Hi, after years being an user occasionally packaging small things in a rather quick-and-dirty way I have recently taken my first attempt to build a package that is supposed to be used by a larger crowd (and, eventually,

Bug#532691: ITP: libjifty-plugin-chart-perl -- A charting API for Jifty

2009-06-10 Thread Yves AGOSTINI
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: AGOSTINI Yves * Package name: libjifty-plugin-chart-perl Version : 0.9 Upstream Author : Andrew Sterling Hanenkamp * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Jifty-Plugin-Chart/ * License : Perl Programming Lang: Perl Desc

Bug#532685: ITP: libjifty-plugin-authentication-ldap-perl -- LDAP Authentication Plugin for Jifty

2009-06-10 Thread Yves AGOSTINI
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: AGOSTINI Yves * Package name: libjifty-plugin-authentication-ldap-perl Version : 1.00 Upstream Author : Yves Agostini, * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Jifty-Plugin-Authentication-Ldap/ * License : Perl Programmin

Bug#532682: ITP: libwx11 -- library to manage xlib

2009-06-10 Thread Miriam Ruiz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Miriam Ruiz * Package name: libwx11 Version : 1.55 Upstream Author : Max Cavallo * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/libwx11 * License : GPL2+ Programming Lang: C Description : library to manage xlib libwx

Bug#532690: ITP: alure -- AL Utilities REtooled

2009-06-10 Thread Andres Mejia
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Games Team * Package name: alure Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Chris Robinson * URL : http://kcat.strangesoft.net/alure.html * License : LGPL Programming Lang: C, C++ Description : ALURE - AL Utilities R

Bug#532679: ITP: libjifty-plugin-authentication-facebook-perl -- Facebook authentication plugin for Jifty

2009-06-10 Thread Yves AGOSTINI
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: AGOSTINI Yves * Package name: libjifty-plugin-authentication-facebook-perl Version : 0.9 Upstream Author : Alex Vandiver * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Jifty-Plugin-Authentication-Facebook/ * License : Perl Prog

Bug#532676: ITP: libjifty-plugin-authentication-cas-perl -- JA-SIG CAS authentication plugin for Jifty

2009-06-10 Thread Yves AGOSTINI
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: AGOSTINI Yves * Package name: libjifty-plugin-authentication-cas-perl Version : 1.00 Upstream Author : Yves Agostini, * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Jifty-Plugin-Authentication-CAS/ * License : Perl Programming L

Bug#532673: ITP: libjifty-plugin-authzldap-perl -- Jifty plugin to a add dynamic ldap authorization

2009-06-10 Thread Yves AGOSTINI
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: AGOSTINI Yves * Package name: libjifty-plugin-authzldap-perl Version : 0.9 Upstream Author : Yves Agostini, * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Jifty-Plugin-AuthzLDAP/ * License : Perl Programming Lang: Perl Descrip

Bug#532639: ITP: react -- functional reactive programming in OCaml

2009-06-10 Thread Stephane Glondu
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stephane Glondu * Package name: react Version : 0.9.0 Upstream Author : Daniel C. Bünzli * URL : http://erratique.ch/software/react * License : BSD Programming Lang: OCaml Description : functional reactive progra

Bug#532632: ITP: geanydoc -- a documentation plugin for Geany

2009-06-10 Thread Chow Loong Jin
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Chow Loong Jin * Package name: geanydoc Version : 0.4 Upstream Author : Yura Siamashka * URL : http://plugins.geany.org/geanydoc/ * License : GPL-3+ Programming Lang: C Description : a documentation plugin for G

Bug#532630: ITP: geanydoc -- a documentation plugin for Geany

2009-06-10 Thread Chow Loong Jin
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Chow Loong Jin * Package name: geanydoc Version : 0.3 Upstream Author : Yura Simashka * URL : http://plugins.geany.org/geanydoc/ * License : GPL-3+ Programming Lang: C Description : a documentation plugin for Ge

Bug#532629: ITP: gmic -- GREYC's Magic Image Converter

2009-06-10 Thread Jakub Wilk
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jakub Wilk * Package name: gmic Version : 1.3.0.2 Upstream Author : David Tschumperle * URL : http://gmic.sourceforge.net/ * License : CeCILL License, version 2.0 Programming Lang: C++ Description : GREYC's Magic

Bug#532625: ITP: python-peak.util -- utilities from the Python Enterprise Application Kit

2009-06-10 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Stefano Zacchiroli * Package name: python-peak.util Version : 20090610 Upstream Author : Philip J. Eby * URL : http://peak.telecommunity.com/ * License : dual-license: Python license (PSF) or Zope public license

Bug#532619: ITP: garmindev -- qlandkartegt plugins to acces Garmin devices

2009-06-10 Thread Michael Hanke
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Michael Hanke * Package name: garmindev Version : 0.2.0 Upstream Author : Oliver Eichler * URL : http://www.qlandkarte.org * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Description : qlandkartegt plugins to acces Garmin

Re: DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

2009-06-10 Thread Noah Slater
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:06:39AM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > If I understand the sentence in question correctly then the proposal > really requires me to create all three stanzas... that's insane! Why is it insane? If you combine them, you're loosing information. > Please tell me I am wron

Re: DEP 5 and directory/file names with spaces

2009-06-10 Thread Roger Leigh
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 09:51:12AM +, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2009-06-08, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > > The is locale dependent. Thus a file created in an other locales > > could contain the character that in current locale is interpreted as > >. > > BTW with pathname resolution rules, the

Bug#532606: ITP: gfm -- Texas Instruments hand-helds file manipulation program for X

2009-06-10 Thread Krzysztof Burghardt
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Krzysztof Burghardt * Package name: gfm Version : 1.02 Upstream Author : Tyler Cassidy , Romain Lievin , Kevin Kofler * URL : http://lpg.ticalc.org/prj_gfm/ * License : GPL Progr

Re: DEP 5 and directory/file names with spaces

2009-06-10 Thread Giacomo A. Catenazzi
Philipp Kern wrote: On 2009-06-08, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: The is locale dependent. Thus a file created in an other locales could contain the character that in current locale is interpreted as . BTW with pathname resolution rules, the file could not be acceded, but AFAIK the non pathname r

Re: DEP 5 and directory/file names with spaces

2009-06-10 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-06-08, Giacomo A. Catenazzi wrote: > The is locale dependent. Thus a file created in an other locales > could contain the character that in current locale is interpreted as >. > BTW with pathname resolution rules, the file could not be acceded, but > AFAIK the non pathname resolution syst

DEP-5: Please clarify the meaning of "same licence and share copyright holders"

2009-06-10 Thread Fabian Greffrath
Hi -devel, I am sorry if it's just me who doesn't understand this sentence, but please clarify the meaning of "...indicating files that have the same licence and share copyright holders." in the current DEP-5 proposal for the 'Files' field. Imagine I have three files in the source: a, b and

Re: Bug#532532: ITP: libacme-progressbar-perl -- Perl module providing a s simple progress bar

2009-06-10 Thread Peter Makholm
Salvatore Bonaccorso writes: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Salvatore Bonaccorso > > * Package name: libacme-progressbar-perl > Version : 1.125 > Upstream Author : Ricardo SIGNES > * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Acme-ProgressBar/ > * License

Re: DEP 5 and directory/file names with spaces

2009-06-10 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ti, 2009-06-09 kello 08:16 -0500, Manoj Srivastava kirjoitti: > No newlines, eh? Seems like the one glob per line wins. It's still ugly and requires special-casing "Files:" in the parser (which I'm happy to do, if it's the consensus that it's the best way for people writing/reading it, spe

Bug#532564: ITP: argparse -- argparse: Python command line parser

2009-06-10 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ritesh Raj Sarraf * Package name: argparse Version : 0.9.1 Upstream Author : Steven Bethard * URL : http://code.google.com/p/argparse * License : Apache 2.0 Programming Lang: Python Description : argparse: Python

Re: debian and lilypond 2.12

2009-06-10 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 09 Jun 2009, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > I don't object to a suitable Debian developer who wants to take over > maintenance of lilypond. They should contact me directly. Speaking of which, I just uploaded an NMU for the new version (2.12.2) after discussing this with Thomas. I personally