Re: [DEHS] packages without a checkable upstream?

2009-04-04 Thread Raphael Geissert
Hideki Yamane wrote: > Hi, > > I saw my qa page, and found watch file error, but that is in my box, First of all, reporting it to debian-qa would have been better; although if you take a look at dehs.alioth.debian.org you will find the right contact address. Second: please provide a link to th

[DEHS] packages without a checkable upstream?

2009-04-04 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi, I saw my qa page, and found watch file error, but that is in my box, > henr...@babytalk:~/working/po-debconf/vsftpd$ cd > /home/henrich/src/ttf-fonts/ttf-misaki-11-20080603/ > henr...@babytalk:~/src/ttf-fonts/ttf-misaki-11-20080603$ uscan --verbose > -- Scanning for watchfiles in . > -- Fou

Re: the files in /etc/modprobe.d/

2009-04-04 Thread Raphael Geissert
Guillem Jover wrote: > I'd rather work during this release cycle > on improving the general conffile support. > What about modifying the format of conffiles to allow: [ ] Which would let dpkg know that it should look for and rename it to (usual change-detection should apply); if it doesn't ex

Re: Perhaps programs should create the subdirectories they use for their temporary files

2009-04-04 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 11:00:54AM +0200, Guus Sliepen wrote: > I maintain a lot of systems that run on CompactFlash cards of a few GB, but > also have 1 or 2 GB of RAM. I mount a tmpfs over /var/cache/apt/archives, so I > can upgrade the system without using a large amount of space on flash, and t

Re: Why do we have to support tmpfs for /var/run (policy changes in 3.8.1)

2009-04-04 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 3:32 AM, Russ Allbery wrote: > Florian Lohoff writes: >> On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 11:40:57PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >> Interesting - The unix way IMHO was that /tmp looses content on reboot >> while /var/tmp did not. This had been the case for commercial Unices for >> a

Re: Improvements to ‘debian/watch’ for fetching from VCS

2009-04-04 Thread Raphael Geissert
Noah Slater wrote: > > What about uscan being able to use custom make targets in debian/rules? [...] No, #458789 Cheers, Raphael Geissert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: How to depend on 32bit libs on amd64? (and what to do with ia32-libs)

2009-04-04 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 11:50:45PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Cyril Brulebois writes: > > > Vincent Fourmond (01/04/2009): > >> Although I admit that schroot is a neat tool to deal with that, it is > >> overkill in the case of wine, and much too complex for users that would > >> be i

Bug#522560: ITP: bist -- chemical drawing tool

2009-04-04 Thread David Paleino
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: David Paleino * Package name: bist Version : 0.5.1 Upstream Author : Valerio Benfante * URL : https://gna.org/projects/bist/ http://www.autistici.org/interzona/repos_bist/ * License : GPL Programmin

Re: Request for Comments: Standardize enabling/disabling of system services

2009-04-04 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 04 avril 2009 à 22:23 +1000, Kel Modderman a écrit : > An interface for disabling/enabling system boot scripts has been proposed > and committed [1] and also made available for dependency based boot [2]. > > These changes may need to be discussed further now though, as Steve Langasek > s

Re: Suggestions about apt-spy

2009-04-04 Thread Stefano Canepa
Il giorno sab, 28/03/2009 alle 22.39 +0900, Paul Wise ha scritto: > 2009/3/28 Stefano Canepa : > > > Where is a the right place to copy the mirror list? > > Perhaps a static copy in /usr/share/apt-spy and the dynamically > downloaded version at /var/cache/apt-spy/ ? At the end I decided to use o

Re: Improvements to ‘debian /watch’ for fetching from VCS

2009-04-04 Thread Noah Slater
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 01:35:17PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > opts=handler=svn http://domain.tld/svn/foo/... > > would do the right thing. What about uscan being able to use custom make targets in debian/rules? There could be a way to tell uscan to use the following: debian/rules get-ori

Re: Improvements to ‘debian/watch’ for fetching from VCS

2009-04-04 Thread Raphael Geissert
Ben Finney wrote: > Raphael Geissert writes: [...] >> How does bzr recognise whether it should use http or not? > > I don't understand the question. I'll try to answer what might be the > question; if this doesn't answer you, please re-phrase. > > Bazaar can use HTTP as a transport for file-lev

Re: Why do we have to support tmpfs for /var/run (policy changes in 3.8.1)

2009-04-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Florian Lohoff writes: > On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 11:40:57PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >> one of the changes in 3.8.1 was, that support for tmpfs on /var/run >> (and /var/tmp) became mandatory [9.3.2]. Lintian is now also >> complaining very loudly (error) if your package ships a directory in >>

Re: Why do we have to support tmpfs for /var/run (policy changes in 3.8.1)

2009-04-04 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Fri, Apr 03, 2009 at 11:40:57PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > Subject: Why do we have to support tmpfs for /var/run (policy changes in > 3.8.1) > > Hi, > > one of the changes in 3.8.1 was, that support for tmpfs on /var/run (and > /var/tmp) became mandatory [9.3.2]. Lintian is now also c

Re: Improvements to ‘debian/watch’ for fet ching from VCS

2009-04-04 Thread Jelmer Vernooij
Ben Finney wrote: > Raphael Geissert writes: > > >> Ben Finney wrote: >> >>> * the fact that the URL doesn't necessarily indicate what VCS tool is >>> needed to interact with it (just about all of them allow an HTTP URL >>> for public read-only access, so that's what will commonly be u

Re: Transition of initscripts to new order / sequence number

2009-04-04 Thread Jan Wagner
Hi, On Saturday 04 April 2009, Kel Modderman wrote: > On Thursday 19 March 2009 00:35:06 Jan Wagner wrote: > > while thinking about how to solve #508189, where I need to change the > > position of the initscript in bootorder, I thought it would not > > sufficient to change only the call of dh_inst

Re: Improvements to ‘debian/watch’ for fetching from VCS (was: This topic died off; any resolution?)

2009-04-04 Thread Raphael Geissert
Andreas Tille wrote: > On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, Raphael Geissert wrote: > >>> One additional thought: We store packaging Vcs and upstream homepage >>> in debian/control. What about storing upstream Vcs there as well and >>> teach uscan to look there as well. Just a rough thought. >> >> And do what w

Re: Why do we have to support tmpfs for /var/run (policy changes in 3.8.1)

2009-04-04 Thread Marius Vollmer
Paul Wise writes: > On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 7:37 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: > >> Afaik, Ubuntu is the only Linux distro which supports and uses tmpfs by >> default. > > The OpenEmbedded distros do this too, I've especially seen that the > ones associated with OpenMoko do that. Maemo does it, too.

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Re: Perhaps programs should create the subdirectories they use for their temporary files

2009-04-04 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sat, 2009-04-04 at 11:00 +0200, Guus Sliepen wrote: > The problem is that some programs (apt-get, PolicyKit, etc.) store temporary > files in /var/run or /var/cache in their own subdirectories, but expect > something else to create these directories for them. I think we should require > these pr

Re: Perhaps programs should create the subdirectories they use for their temporary files

2009-04-04 Thread Kel Modderman
On Saturday 04 April 2009 19:00:54 Guus Sliepen wrote: > On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 01:54:07AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > > > contact a running daemon. Could you explain what policykit uses /var/run > > > for, and educate me a bit on why D-Bus services have to put things in > > > /var/run but d

Re: Request for Comments: Standardize enabling/disabling of system services

2009-04-04 Thread Kel Modderman
On Thursday 02 April 2009 01:03:27 Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > Hi, > > currently we seem to have no clear policy in Debian how to handle > the question: "Shall a service started once its installed or not?" > The current state of affairs is that some packages start after beeing > installed, some do

Re: Transition of initscripts to new order / sequence number

2009-04-04 Thread Kel Modderman
On Thursday 19 March 2009 00:35:06 Jan Wagner wrote: > Hi there, > > while thinking about how to solve #508189, where I need to change the > position > of the initscript in bootorder, I thought it would not sufficient to change > only the call of dh_installinit in the rules file. > > If an use

Re: Why do we have to support tmpfs for /var/run (policy changes in 3.8.1)

2009-04-04 Thread Martin Orr
On 04/04/09 01:22, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 01:14:51AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >> I provided a list of cons of tmpfs (you could probably also add, that it >> breaks selinux). Is there actually a list of pros? > > "Probably"? In what case does this break selinux? It doe

Re: Gratituous dependences among packages

2009-04-04 Thread Omer Zak
On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 22:11 +0100, Ana Guerrero wrote: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 08:33:55PM +0200, Omer Zak wrote: > > My wish is that modularization of Debian packages be improved. It means > > that it'll be possible to uninstall all games in a PC and continue to > > have functioning KDE. Likewi

Re: Bug#522196: #522196 - RFP: gnu icecat - the GNU version of Mozilla Firefox

2009-04-04 Thread Giuseppe Scrivano
Hello, Brett Parker writes: > I thought they all now dynamically linked against xulrunner so that security > support was much simpler than before, so it's really just a frontend more than > a clone of firefox, no? Yes, I think Iceweasel and Icecat can share xulrunner without problems. After th

Perhaps programs should create the subdirectories they use for their temporary files

2009-04-04 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Sat, Apr 04, 2009 at 01:54:07AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > > contact a running daemon. Could you explain what policykit uses /var/run > > for, and educate me a bit on why D-Bus services have to put things in > > /var/run but don't have init scripts? > > PolicyKit stores credentials in /var