[...] (Sorry for only focusing on the below point, it was a really nice, but at
the same time also scary read!)
>
> One bright spot is that I think there are fewer poisonous people in
> positions of authority in Debian now than in many points in its
> history. We have a great leadership team, in
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.
Total number of orphaned packages: 469 (new: 5)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 118 (new: 0)
Total number of packages request
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 01:04:05AM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> I am really speechless The French seem to have a completely
> different understanding of the English language used in all these
> matters than almost every one else in the world. I guess it is really
> time that Joss realize
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:18:04AM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote:
>
> That is when Ian pointed out to me how true that was in the Linux
> community. I wonder if Debian is exemplifying this behavior. A lot of
> good people have retired lately.
>
> It is starting to feel like that block of home
Simon Huggins wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:04:24PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
>> As the Debian culture is opposed to censorship, I believe that such posts do
>> not belong on Planet Debian - which is for many people the public face of
>> Debian.
>
> To be clear, this means that as the De
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 03:00:11AM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Dec 18, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>
> > I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately. I was
> Good riddance! It's too bad that you did not leave after misleading
> the other developers about "editorial changes".
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Nima Talebi
* Package name: python-dmidecode
Version : 2.10
Upstream Author : Name
* URL : http://projects.autonomy.net.au/dmidecode/
* License : GPLv3
Programming Lang: C, Python
Description : Python extension m
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:04:05 +0100
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:28:09PM +, Russell Coker wrote:
> >> The creation of a fake picture of Manoj wearing leather makes it
> >> clear that Joss was intending to make an insinuation of
> >> homosex
Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Dec 18, Russell Coker wrote:
The Ubuntu community includes many former and current members of the Debian
community. It seems that they don't have a problem with the code of conduct.
Why do you think that a code of conduct which works well for Ubuntu would
fail for D
Paul Wise wrote:
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Barry deFreese wrote:
Shoot, I didn't add that, Moritz did.
Ah, woops.
Which one should we actually use?
OngoingTransitions IMO (perhaps it could be renamed too).
BTW, found this page too:
http://wiki.debian.org/GTK%2B_
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Barry deFreese wrote:
> Shoot, I didn't add that, Moritz did.
Ah, woops.
> Which one should we actually use?
OngoingTransitions IMO (perhaps it could be renamed too).
BTW, found this page too:
http://wiki.debian.org/GTK%2B_1.2_leftovers
--
bye,
pabs
http:
Paul Wise wrote:
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
Actually, it would be nice if we had a decicated cleanups/transitions
overview page on wiki.debian.org as a central starting point for
people who want to help out.
This is the old one:
http://wiki.debian.org
On Dec 18, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately. I was
Good riddance! It's too bad that you did not leave after misleading
the other developers about "editorial changes".
> While I must say that the mistake for this ballot lies at my
On Dec 18, Holger Levsen wrote:
> To those thinking about expelling Joss, I'm in favor of this now. Trolling on
> purpose (repeatetly) for the sake of it is nothing I want to see in Debian
> nor do I want to see it as accepted behaviour.
Come on... We had a DPL who hosted the browser exploits
On Dec 18, Russell Coker wrote:
> The Ubuntu community includes many former and current members of the Debian
> community. It seems that they don't have a problem with the code of conduct.
> Why do you think that a code of conduct which works well for Ubuntu would
> fail for Debian?
They get p
On Dec 18, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> FWIW, I'm way more annoyed by _frequent_ OT blog posts totally
> unrelated to Debian on Planet Debian (even though I enjoy _sporadic_
> OTs) than by Joss posts.
Me too! I really do not feel the need to learn how much the personal
life of other developers suc
On Dec 18, Russell Coker wrote:
> He has stated
> that he intends to keep offending people. His aim seems to be the censorship
> of people who disagree with him by continually offending them until they stop
> disagreeing.
I am quite sure that this is not a new meaning of "censorship" I was no
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> Actually, it would be nice if we had a decicated cleanups/transitions
> overview page on wiki.debian.org as a central starting point for
> people who want to help out.
This is the old one:
http://wiki.debian.org/OngoingTransitions
Th
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 06:07:43PM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> > Rank "Further discussion" first. That's our best way to say "I think
> > this vote is wrong".
> But that will delay even further Lenny release; I think that a simple
> vote like the one dato proposed is what is needed to let us move
>
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Programming Lang: Perl
Description : Parse
Le Friday 19 December 2008 01:04:05 Johannes Wiedersich, vous avez écrit :
> Joss, it is disappointing that after all that time since your faux pas
> [1], you still seem to fail to understand that what might be acceptable
> within one culture (I don't speak or understand 'French') will not
> necess
On Friday 19 December 2008 10:01, Romain Beauxis wrote:
> Well, you could also argue that "in intend to offend" means "present things
> as if it was offensent", much like when calling someone a geek is meant as
> an insult...
Exactly.
Also I had a brief off-list discussion with Joss about this i
On Do, 18 Dez 2008, Russell Coker wrote:
> The above article concerns the damage that Josselin's actions cause to the
> Debian project. D-d-a is not that different from other parts of Debian, bad
> behaviour in other forums also hurts the project.
Oh bummer. Normally I never write something in
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Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:28:09PM +, Russell Coker wrote:
>> The creation of a fake picture of Manoj wearing leather makes it clear that
>> Joss was intending to make an insinuation of homosexuality in order to
>> offend.
>
> I'm really speechless... I mean, even fr
#include
* Kalle Kivimaa [Thu, Dec 18 2008, 05:11:39PM]:
> Manoj Srivastava writes:
> > As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
> > petition for the DAM to have me removed from the project,
>
> WHAT?? Could these people step up please and tell us WHY you conside
On Fri, Dec 19, 2008, Russell Coker wrote:
> The expression "broomstick in their arse" is also common in Australian
> culture. It is even sometimes used without the intent to make an accusation
> of homosexuality.
>
> However Josselin made it quite clear that he was not using the term as a
>
Le Thursday 18 December 2008 23:46:25 Josselin Mouette, vous avez écrit :
> So, if I follow you:
> leather -> homosexuality
> homosexuality -> offense
>
> And by saying both of these, you dare say that I am offensive ‽
Well, you could also argue that "in intend to offend" means "pr
Le vendredi 19 décembre 2008 à 09:28 +1100, Russell Coker a écrit :
> The expression "broomstick in their arse" is also common in Australian
> culture. It is even sometimes used without the intent to make an accusation
> of homosexuality.
Homosexuality can be an *accusation* ‽
> The creation o
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:28:09PM +, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Friday 19 December 2008 08:53, Romain Beauxis wrote:
> > Being french too, I can assure you that pretending that someone has a
> > broomstick in its ass is a very common expression for someone who it too
> > much rigid. It is comm
On 2008-12-18, Russell Coker wrote:
> culture. It is even sometimes used without the intent to make an accusation
> of homosexuality.
> Joss was intending to make an insinuation of homosexuality in order to
> offend.
I think you are seeing ghosts or just being prejudistic against
homosexuals.
On Friday 19 December 2008 08:53, Romain Beauxis wrote:
> > http://np237.livejournal.com/20741.html
> >
> > That method was attempted, the response from Josselin was "I will go on
> > shocking these people", along with several references to sodomy with a
> > broomstick and a link to a French web p
On Friday 19 December 2008 01:44, Manoj Srivastava
wrote:
> I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately. I was
I'm sad to hear this. I think that you have done a great job as secretary.
> I concede that I have made mistakes with the current set of
> votes. And th
Manoj Srivastava writes:
> In the years I have spent in this role since Darren left us,
> I have tried to conduct the votes as I saw the rquirements of the
> constitution, and the limitations of the voting software. But this
> not a view shared by very many people.
I've always found y
#include
* Russell Coker [Thu, Dec 18 2008, 11:04:24PM]:
> http://discuss.itwire.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=7991
>
> From the above news article:
> # Debian Project Leader Steve McIntyre told iTWire that after Mouette's "abuse
I would like to know what exactly Steve told them. The major tone WRT
O
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 06:27:15PM +, Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 08:44:11AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> > I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately.
>
> Thank you for all the good work you've done in that position over the years.
>
> >
(I answer since there is a question adressed..)
Le Thursday 18 December 2008 22:01:17 Russell Coker, vous avez écrit :
> On Friday 19 December 2008 06:28, Romain Beauxis
wrote:
> > The initial proposition of this thread was this idea of code of conduct..
> > I don't like it either. If you belie
Barry deFreese wrote:
> Just in case anyone cares/is interested, here is some work I have been
> doing on packages using Gtk1.2, Imlib, gnome-libs, or any combination
> thereof.
Thanks.
Could you fold this into a page on wiki.debian.org, so that people
can add their specific solution attempts
* Sandro Tosi [081218 20:51]:
> ehm? what? how is it un-democratic to have different votes for
> different things, targetted exactly to decide where something is
> allowed or not?
Then do different votes for different things. And put together what
belongs together.
But just having a "wait foreve
On Friday 19 December 2008 06:28, Romain Beauxis wrote:
> The initial proposition of this thread was this idea of code of conduct..
> I don't like it either. If you believe someone is being too rude, why
> don't you simply tell it to him, in public or in private ?
http://np237.livejournal.com/20
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:44:34AM -0700, Bdale Garbee wrote:
> As one of the few people around who has been part of the Debian project
> as long as you have, please accept my sincere appreciation for your long
> history of meaningful contributions... and in particular your lengthy
> and honorable
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 20:33, Bernhard R. Link wrote:
> * Sandro Tosi [081218 18:11]:
>> But that will delay even further Lenny release;
>
> Hey! You suggested to redo something. Thus you are suggesting to delay.
But maybe with the aim of a better target?
>> I think that a simple
>> vote like
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 08:28:21PM +0100, Romain Beauxis wrote:
> And if the jokes don't make you laugh, just ignore them.
Which of course would be easier to do if the jokes were not told in the
first place. There's a time and place for everything, it's a shame
that a few seem to think that this li
* Sandro Tosi [081218 18:11]:
> But that will delay even further Lenny release;
Hey! You suggested to redo something. Thus you are suggesting to delay.
> I think that a simple
> vote like the one dato proposed is what is needed to let us move
> forward a release.
Please note that changing the v
Le Thursday 18 December 2008 19:12:29 Martin Langhoff, vous avez écrit :
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Manners, Josselin, and discretion. There are some places where it's just
> > not appropriate to blurt out whatever you're thinking.
>
> +10 from here.
>
> Of course,
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:51:34PM +0100, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Bjørn Mork wrote:
>> > Florian Weimer writes:
>>
>> > I would very much like this library to become the *only* WPAD
>> > implementation
Manoj,
As one of the few people around who has been part of the Debian project
as long as you have, please accept my sincere appreciation for your long
history of meaningful contributions... and in particular your lengthy
and honorable service as our secretary!
You have earned and retain my imm
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>
> I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately.
Thank you very much for your work in such a difficult role for so long.
Debian is certainly a better project for your efforts.
> Mistakes happen. Mistakes can be recovered from. What can not,
>
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 08:44:11AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately.
Thank you for all the good work you've done in that position over the years.
> As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
> petitio
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Manners, Josselin, and discretion. There are some places where it's just
> not appropriate to blurt out whatever you're thinking.
+10 from here.
Of course, Josselin thinks and jokes differently from others, as it's
natural to do. When in a
On 18/12/08 at 17:45 +, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> Since I am not (yet) a DD and the remaining RC bugs for lenny are
> largely beyond me - I have been keeping an eye on the list - I'm looking
> for ways to contribute that aren't packaging.
>
> It occurs to me that the NEW queue is pretty stat
Since I am not (yet) a DD and the remaining RC bugs for lenny are
largely beyond me - I have been keeping an eye on the list - I'm looking
for ways to contribute that aren't packaging.
It occurs to me that the NEW queue is pretty static for large periods of
time (and in the middle of a freeze, thi
Holger Levsen (18/12/2008):
> To those thinking about expelling Joss, I'm in favor of this now.
OOH, that's the season, maybe?
> Trolling on purpose (repeatetly) for the sake of it is nothing I want
> to see in Debian nor do I want to see it as accepted behaviour.
Just for the record, Joss didn
Le Thursday 18 December 2008 18:21:48 Holger Levsen, vous avez écrit :
> To those thinking about expelling Joss, I'm in favor of this now. Trolling
> on purpose (repeatetly) for the sake of it is nothing I want to see in
> Debian nor do I want to see it as accepted behaviour.
You can't be serious.
Hi,
kindergarten and western civilisation indeed would be a good idea.
To those thinking about expelling Joss, I'm in favor of this now. Trolling on
purpose (repeatetly) for the sake of it is nothing I want to see in Debian
nor do I want to see it as accepted behaviour.
regards,
Hol
Le Thursday 18 December 2008 18:08:00 Josselin Mouette, vous avez écrit :
> Le jeudi 18 décembre 2008 à 17:49 +0100, Romain Beauxis a écrit :
> > I eat kittens at breakfast
>
> How do you cook them?
>
> I like European cats a lot, but I heard the Siamese meat is more tender.
> Do you have some advi
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:51:34PM +0100, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Bjørn Mork wrote:
> > Florian Weimer writes:
>
> > I would very much like this library to become the *only* WPAD
> > implementation anywhere. Hopefully eventually with some ability to
> > defi
Hi Gunnar,
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 17:38, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
> Sandro Tosi dijo [Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 01:22:40PM +0100]:
>> Hello,
>> I've started a new thread because follow 2 very long thread starts
>> being a little tedious.
>>
>> This voice is coming out more and more strong lately: why don't
Le jeudi 18 décembre 2008 à 17:49 +0100, Romain Beauxis a écrit :
> I eat kittens at breakfast
How do you cook them?
I like European cats a lot, but I heard the Siamese meat is more tender.
Do you have some advice?
--
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: :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender your code.
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Romain Beauxis wrote:
> Le Thursday 18 December 2008 16:37:38 Johannes Wiedersich, vous avez écrit :
>>The point is it was an 'announcement' and it
>> was perceived as inappropriate (not only OT) by many.
>
> I fully disagr
On 11603 March 1977, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately.
:( Sorry to hear that. Whoever is your follower *will* have a hard
time.
> As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
> petition for the DAM to have me
Manoj Srivastava writes:
> As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
> petition for the DAM to have me removed from the project,
WHAT?? Could these people step up please and tell us WHY you consider
expelling Manoj from Debian would be a good thing? Feel free to us
Le Thursday 18 December 2008 16:37:38 Johannes Wiedersich, vous avez écrit :
> Julien BLACHE wrote:
> > I'd argue about that "official" thing that people have been using to
> > qualify d-d-a. It's an announce list for developers, by
> > developers. I'm not sure what's official in there. I'd tend to
Brian May dijo [Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:45:47AM +1100]:
> > (...)
> >A) If we trust or not the release team on making the right choices of
> >which bugs to ignore and which not (regardless of this being firmware
> >issues or what have you). This is from now on, not just for Lenny.
> >
> >B) If we
also sprach Manoj Srivastava [2008.12.18.1544 +0100]:
> As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
> petition for the DAM to have me removed from the project, I hear you
> too. I am going to spend the next few days evaluating how important the
> project is to me, a
Sandro Tosi dijo [Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 01:22:40PM +0100]:
> Hello,
> I've started a new thread because follow 2 very long thread starts
> being a little tedious.
>
> This voice is coming out more and more strong lately: why don't we
> simply delete the current gr_lenny and start another ballot, on
Christian Perrier dijo [Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 07:40:12AM +0100]:
> It could be by promoting experimental a different way we are doing it
> right now...or by adding an intermediate stage between unstable and
> experimental. For that latter case, I somewhat fear the (human) resource
> problem we would
Manoj,
This is very unfortunate for Debian. You diligently adhered
to the Constitution in the face of rabid criticism from a
few loudmouths who were too lazy to resolve their concerns
about poorly worded proposals at the appropriate time.
Sadly, by this action you have only encouraged the jackal
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 08:44:11AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>Hi folks,
>
>I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately. I was
> planning on leaving the office soon, anyway, but I had a rewrite of
> Devotee underway, which would have made the software more useful for
> dif
Hi
Dne Thu, 18 Dec 2008 08:44:11 -0600
Manoj Srivastava napsal(a):
> I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately.
Thanks for your hard work!
> As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
> petition for the DAM to have me removed from the proj
Michael Banck wrote:
> Like it or not, messages to d-d-a are frequently forwarded verbatim to
> LWN and other major IT-centered news sources. This happen much less
Pretty much everything and anything ends up there, so that's hardly a
criterion for relevance or whatever.
JB.
--
Julien BLACHE
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 04:45:07PM +0100, Mohammed Adnène Trojette wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008, Russell Coker wrote:
> > He has stated that he intends to keep offending people. His aim seems
> > to be the censorship of people who disagree with him by continually
> > offending them until they stop
On Thu Dec 18 08:44, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>
> I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately
Thank you for your hard work in this post. I'm sorry to see that a few
zealots can cause so many hard working folks to consider leaving the
project. Personally, if we are to do witho
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>
> I was just thinking of postposing the end-of-vote cron job, so
> no re-voting would be needed.
>
> If there is sufficient support, we could also scrap the current
> vote, change our ballot, add options to it, or something, and restart
> the vote, but
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008, Russell Coker wrote:
> He has stated that he intends to keep offending people. His aim seems
> to be the censorship of people who disagree with him by continually
> offending them until they stop disagreeing.
Come on, you're defacing reality and Josselin's statements...
What
On 2008-12-18, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> As to the people who emailed me that they are putting together a
> petition for the DAM to have me removed from the project, I hear you
> too.
I don't like this.
> I am going to spend the next few days evaluating how important the
> project i
Hi!
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Julien BLACHE wrote:
> I'd argue about that "official" thing that people have been using to
> qualify d-d-a. It's an announce list for developers, by
> developers. I'm not sure what's official in there. I'd tend to say
> anything "official" is project
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On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 03:53:09PM +0100, Romain Beauxis wrote:
> Le Thursday 18 December 2008 15:45:05 Michael Banck, vous avez écrit :
> > > I'd argue about that "official" thing that people have been using to
> > > qualify d-d-a. It's an announce list for developers, by
> > > developers.
> >
> >
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- "Manoj Srivastava" wrote:
> I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately. I was
> planning on leaving the office soon, anyway, but I had a rewrite of
> Devotee underway, which would have made the software more useful for
> different people (different checks --LDAP.g
Hi folks,
I am hereby resigning as secretary, effective immediately. I was
planning on leaving the office soon, anyway, but I had a rewrite of
Devotee underway, which would have made the software more useful for
different people (different checks --LDAP.gpg. and others), and allowed
De
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Le Thursday 18 December 2008 15:45:05 Michael Banck, vous avez écrit :
> > I'd argue about that "official" thing that people have been using to
> > qualify d-d-a. It's an announce list for developers, by
> > developers.
>
> Wrong. While in /theory/ it might be for developers, in /practise/,
> d-d-
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 12:28:12PM +0100, Jan Niehusmann wrote:
> I don't like the current vote either and wouldn't mind if it was
> canceled.
>
> My suggestion is to do a very simple vote first, with only two choices:
>
> a) continue with the release process and don't wait for further GRs
>
>
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 03:15:38PM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
> Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> >> Official announcements to the outside world actually appear in
> >> debian-announce; debian-devel-announce is a developer list.
> >
> > You are a bit picky, you know? :-)
>
> I don't think
On 12/18/08 06:26, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le jeudi 18 décembre 2008 à 23:04 +1100, Russell Coker a écrit :
The above article concerns the damage that Josselin's actions cause to the
Debian project. D-d-a is not that different from other parts of Debian, bad
behaviour in other forums also hurt
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
Hi,
>> Official announcements to the outside world actually appear in
>> debian-announce; debian-devel-announce is a developer list.
>
> You are a bit picky, you know? :-)
I don't think so; setting the record straight isn't being picky :)
> Yes: I know the difference
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 02:59:52PM +0100, Michael Tautschnig wrote:
> Do we have any well-defined procedure to stop/cancel a GR (in progress)? If
> not,
> is it the DPL to decide, based on what is voiced on this list? Shouldn't
> people
> just say "Further discussion" in their votes to express s
> On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 01:22:40PM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote:
>
> > So, how many are in favor of redo *completely* the vote (in more
> > ballot, the first being the one for lenny ONLY)? how many should we be
> > to let it happen? how many should be in contrary to stop this re-vote?
> > how can we
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 02:34:09PM +0100, Julien BLACHE wrote:
> > them. Your implicit assumption that Planet Debian conveys an
> > "official" message to our community is totally unsound IMO. We have
> > d-d-a for our official message (yes, Joss abused that, and has been
>
> Official announcements
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
Hi,
> them. Your implicit assumption that Planet Debian conveys an
> "official" message to our community is totally unsound IMO. We have
> d-d-a for our official message (yes, Joss abused that, and has been
Official announcements to the outside world actually appear in
* Russell Coker:
> The above article concerns the damage that Josselin's actions cause to the
> Debian project.
I don't think it's fair to hold Josselin responsible for what that
particular author writes, no matter what you think of his actions.
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On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 11:04:24PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> As the Debian culture is opposed to censorship, I believe that such posts do
> not belong on Planet Debian
This sounds like an oxymoron to me.
FWIW, I'm way more annoyed by _frequent_ OT blog posts totally
unrelated to Debian on Pl
Le Thursday 18 December 2008 13:04:24 Russell Coker, vous avez écrit :
> The above article concerns the damage that Josselin's actions cause to the
> Debian project. D-d-a is not that different from other parts of Debian,
> bad behaviour in other forums also hurts the project.
I have that feeling
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 01:22:40PM +0100, Sandro Tosi wrote:
> So, how many are in favor of redo *completely* the vote (in more
> ballot, the first being the one for lenny ONLY)? how many should we be
> to let it happen? how many should be in contrary to stop this re-vote?
> how can we express the
Hello,
I've started a new thread because follow 2 very long thread starts
being a little tedious.
This voice is coming out more and more strong lately: why don't we
simply delete the current gr_lenny and start another ballot, only
focusing on the *real* lenny release? All other options must go int
Le jeudi 18 décembre 2008 à 23:04 +1100, Russell Coker a écrit :
> The above article concerns the damage that Josselin's actions cause to the
> Debian project. D-d-a is not that different from other parts of Debian, bad
> behaviour in other forums also hurts the project.
What do you want to say
On Dec 16, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Noah Slater wrote:
To be honest, I'd prefer if Bastian applied his skills
to helping a project I'm not a member of.
I am not going to comment on his behaviour, your comments may very
well be
justified. But I do think it would do the project some good if we
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