Re: DFSG violations: non-free but no contrib

2008-11-02 Thread Ben Finney
Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi Ben, > > On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 09:17:56AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > > Anything which we propose to distribute as part of Debian must > > follow the DFSG rules; otherwise, we violate our promises in the > > Social Contract. There's nothing special

Re: DFSG violations / buyers guide.

2008-11-02 Thread Rémi Vanicat
Frank Lin PIAT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 11:29 +, Robert Lemmen wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:07:52PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: >> > Wrong. You can help Ben Finney testing his packages. That would be much >> > more useful than useless babbling on mailing l

Re: Re: Possibility for dependencies against specific kernel modules

2008-11-02 Thread Filipus Klutiero
On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 07:29:16PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: >> | Package: test >> | Depends: test-modules | test-source >> | >> | Package: test-modules >> | Depends: linux-image-2.6.26-1-powerpc | linux-image-2.6.26-1-powerpc64 >> | >> | Package: test-source >> >> Both apt and aptitude woul

Re: DFSG violations: non-free but no contrib

2008-11-02 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 08:03:15AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: >> On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 14:51 +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: >> > Everyone agrees that firmwares are a bit special >> I don't think they are at all special. > Bullshit. -- Gruesse/greetings

Re: can a kernel in main depend on firmware in non-free to work?

2008-11-02 Thread Alexandre Oliva
Hi, Peter, Thanks for your very informative response. You've confirmed my understanding that the main/contrib split is not about software freedom at all. I've thus come to the conclusion that it was motivated by the other Debian priority. Please bear with me while I explore the consequences of

Re: Problem with libtool relinking

2008-11-02 Thread Ben Burton
Hi Alexis, > So maybe putting the -L/-l linker args in LIBADD instead would fix the > problem. I tried this out over the weekend, and it worked a treat. Thanks for that, Ben. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: DFSG violations: non-free but no contrib

2008-11-02 Thread Michael Banck
Hi Ben, On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 09:17:56AM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Anything which we propose to distribute as part of Debian must follow > the DFSG rules; otherwise, we violate our promises in the Social > Contract. There's nothing special about the *vendor-intended use* of a > collection of bi

Re: DFSG violations / buyers guide.

2008-11-02 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 11:29 +, Robert Lemmen wrote: > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:07:52PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > > Wrong. You can help Ben Finney testing his packages. That would be much > > more useful than useless babbling on mailing lists. > > if you are talking about these [0], i

Re: DFSG violations: non-free but no contrib

2008-11-02 Thread Ben Finney
Aurelien Jarno <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This look complicated. Everyone agrees that firmwares are a bit > special in the world of software due to the fact they don't run on > the host CPU. I disagree. That makes them special, but it doesn't at all affect the rules that should be applied to

Re: DFSG violations: non-free but no contrib

2008-11-02 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Mon, Nov 03, 2008 at 08:03:15AM +1100, Robert Collins wrote: > On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 14:51 +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > Everyone agrees that firmwares are a bit special > > in the world of software due to the fact they don't run on the host > > CPU. > > I don't think they are at all special

Re: DFSG violations: non-free but no contrib

2008-11-02 Thread Robert Collins
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 14:51 +0100, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > Everyone agrees that firmwares are a bit special > in the world of software due to the fact they don't run on the host > CPU. I don't think they are at all special. What interprets the software - be it a 'cpu', a 'vm' or a co-processor lik

Re: DFSG violations: non-free but no contrib

2008-11-02 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 10:34:47AM +, Robert Lemmen wrote: > hi everyone, > > the current situation concerning firmware blobs and dfsg-freeness is a > bit sad, among other things because there really isn't too much we can > do about it in the short run. so how about some practical proposal tha

Re: can buildd logs be sorted (again)?

2008-11-02 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Raphael Geissert wrote: > So, let's test it with a script I wrote during DC8 (as suggested by Lucas): Thanks to Raphael's test suite, the (mainly regarding the not fully parenthesized succession of ( ? : ), but also treating empty Debian revisions), the comparision now works for all valid versions

Re: Bug Sprint results (draft)

2008-11-02 Thread Steffen Joeris
On Mon, 3 Nov 2008 02:39:47 am John H. Robinson, IV wrote: > Chris Bannister wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 07:48:21PM +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > > > Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > > >=2E.. hence, given that Lenny hasn't been release yet, when are we > > > > gonna make another one? :) >

Re: Bug Sprint results (draft)

2008-11-02 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 12:39 AM, John H. Robinson, IV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris Bannister wrote: >> But ... *who* is gonna want the aussie beer? :) > > Anybody that has had Victoria Bitter before. I hope that was sarcasm! -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: For those who care about bts-link: call for adoption

2008-11-02 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:05:35PM +, Christoph Berg wrote: > Re: Pierre Habouzit 2008-10-30 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 04:52:58PM +, Christoph Berg wrote: > > > Re: Pierre Habouzit 2008-10-30 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Anyways, the information is: I don't intend to ma

Re: Bug Sprint results (draft)

2008-11-02 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 07:48:21PM +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > > Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > >=2E.. hence, given that Lenny hasn't been release yet, when are we gonna > > > make another one? :) > > > > Let's make it a Beer Sprint. The winners receive a package wit

Bug#504286: ITP: treecc -- manage code generation for compiler development

2008-11-02 Thread David Paleino
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Package name: treecc Version: 0.3.10 Upstream Author: Southern Storm Software, Pty Ltd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL: http://www.southern-storm.com.au/treecc/ (not accessible, currently :-( ) License: GPL-2+ Description: manage

How to stop building libv4l on non-Linux architectures

2008-11-02 Thread Gregor Jasny
Hi, I'm the maintainer of libv4l which passed the new queue yesterday. Obviously the package build failed on non-Linux architectures [1]. How do I handle this situation? Should I list all supported architectures in the control file, or will the Hurd and BSD porter teams add libv4l to the NOT-F

re retravaillez

2008-11-02 Thread annonce service
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Re: Possibility for dependencies against specific kernel modules

2008-11-02 Thread Michael Meskes
On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 09:37:50PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote: > For a really neat and complete solution you'd IMO still need something > like I proposed though to make the vbox ABI visible in package names, but > that can probably be postponed until after Lenny. Well it is, namely the upstream vers

Re: Possibility for dependencies against specific kernel modules

2008-11-02 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Nov 01, 2008 at 07:29:16PM -0400, Filipus Klutiero wrote: >> | Package: test >> | Depends: test-modules | test-source >> | >> | Package: test-modules >> | Depends: linux-image-2.6.26-1-powerpc | linux-image-2.6.26-1-powerpc64 >> | >> | Package: test-source >> >> Both apt and aptitude would