Re: Can a package modify slapd.conf in its maintainer script?

2008-08-10 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Brian May] > I agree with this approach. If slapd.conf needs to be modified, it > should not happen automatically. Rather the administrator needs to > be told to do it manually. Otherwise the risk exists the > modifications might break something. You could provide a script for doing the modifica

Re: Can a package modify slapd.conf in its maintainer script?

2008-08-10 Thread Brian May
Fabio Tranchitella wrote: Thanks, we'll prepare a new release which disables the slapd.conf mangling and provides documentation within README.Debian. I agree with this approach. If slapd.conf needs to be modified, it should not happen automatically. Rather the administrator needs to be told

Re: Bug#494488: ITP: polyml -- Standard ML implementation

2008-08-10 Thread Ben Finney
"Achim D. Brucker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > And maybe also to the summary line? "Runtime for the Standard ML > > programming language" > > also a good idea. Even better if implemented without the title-case at the start: runtime for the

Re: Can a package modify slapd.conf in its maintainer script?

2008-08-10 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
* 2008-08-10 22:25, Peter Palfrader wrote: > The submitter is right. > > | Packages must not modify other packages' configuration files > | except by an agreed upon APIs (eg, a /usr/sbin/update-foo > | command). > > http://release.debian.org/lenny/rc_policy.txt section 3. Thanks, we'll prepare a

Re: Can a package modify slapd.conf in its maintainer script?

2008-08-10 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: > I need some help regarding #493781: the submitter reported the bug as grave > because he thinks that modifying slapd.conf to include an extra LDAP schema > from the maintainer scripts of a package (phamm-ldap in this case) is > against the Debian po

Possible mass bug filing: embedding perl hangs on hppa without PERL_SYS_INIT3

2008-08-10 Thread Niko Tyni
Hi debian-devel and debian-hppa, as seen in #486069, since Perl 5.10.0, embedding Perl hangs on hppa in pthread_mutex_lock() inside perl_parse() if PERL_SYS_INIT3() hasn't been called. The need for PERL_SYS_INIT3() has been documented in perlembed.pod since Perl 5.8.1, so this is not a bug in per

Re: Bug#494488: ITP: polyml -- Standard ML implementation

2008-08-10 Thread Achim D. Brucker
Bernd Eckenfels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: >> good point. I will add something along these lines to the >> package descriptions. > > And maybe also to the summary line? "Runtime for the Standard ML > programming language" also a good idea. > > Will

Re: Can a package modify slapd.conf in its maintainer script?

2008-08-10 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
* 2008-08-10 21:09, Carsten Hey wrote: > | 11.7.4 Sharing configuration files > | > | ... > | > | The maintainer scripts must not alter a conffile of any package, > | including the one the scripts belong to. > > It is not a conffile, so this is not a problem. This is the exact sentence which keep

Re: Can a package modify slapd.conf in its maintainer script?

2008-08-10 Thread Carsten Hey
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 08:53:32PM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote: > But the whole procedure is valid since it is only a recommendation by > the policy, so this is IMHO not a release critical bug. If the consensus on this will be that this bug is RC then there is also a bug in the policy and the wording

Re: Can a package modify slapd.conf in its maintainer script?

2008-08-10 Thread Carsten Hey
RFC 2119 says: | 3. SHOULD This word, or the adjective "RECOMMENDED", mean that there |may exist valid reasons in particular circumstances to ignore |a particular item, but the full implications must be understood and |carefully weighed before choosing a different course. Debian Pol

Re: Bug#494488: ITP: polyml -- Standard ML implementation

2008-08-10 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote: > good point. I will add something along these lines to the > package descriptions. And maybe also to the summary line? "Runtime for the Standard ML programming language" Will you also have different packages for runtime libs/system and compiler (or what

Re: Can a package modify slapd.conf in its maintainer script?

2008-08-10 Thread Lars Wirzenius
su, 2008-08-10 kello 19:34 +0200, Fabio Tranchitella kirjoitti: > Considering that slapd.conf is not (anymore) a conffile, in my opinion this > behaviour is not forbidden from the Debian policy and thus the bug report > could be closed without any change to the phamm-ldap package. > > Of course, h

Can a package modify slapd.conf in its maintainer script?

2008-08-10 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
Hello all, I need some help regarding #493781: the submitter reported the bug as grave because he thinks that modifying slapd.conf to include an extra LDAP schema from the maintainer scripts of a package (phamm-ldap in this case) is against the Debian policy. Considering that slapd.conf is not (a

Re: Bug#494488: ITP: polyml -- Standard ML implementation

2008-08-10 Thread Achim D. Brucker
Guus Sliepen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: >> * Package name: polyml > [...] > > Your definition assumes the reader knows what Standard ML is. Most of > them don't. Please include something like the following paragraph in the > long description (taken from Wikiepedia): > > Standard ML is a gene

feature: to add explanations of recommendations and suggestions dependencies

2008-08-10 Thread Shachar Or
Hi. I'd like to propose a feature for the package management system; What I am offering is the idea that package dependencies that are reccomendations or suggestions must be explained. Many times I can't guess the reason a package is being recommended/suggested and in times that I can guess I

Re: A tool for tracking masked updates to stable packages

2008-08-10 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 10/08/08 at 09:42 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Marcin Owsiany] > > I thought it might be good to ask here if I'm not trying to reinvent > > something that already exists. Or maybe someone has some ideas about > > this issue? > > One idea that occured to me, was to use the information co

Re: Annoying GTK2 file dialogue - where to file the BUG?

2008-08-10 Thread Michael Banck
On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 11:58:14AM +0200, Rudi Effe wrote: > @Michael: You are possibly right - but: > - Developers tend to know better what component is responsible So you suggest every user should ask on debian-devel first before filing a bug, so we tell them what package it belongs to? Do you

Re: Annoying GTK2 file dialogue - where to file the BUG?

2008-08-10 Thread Rudi Effe
Dear Sam, thank you for your patient and thorough reply. I added my points to some existing bug reports - I hope they won't get me wrong. Am Samstag 09 August 2008 schrieb Sam Morris: > This is simply due to the default GTK+ theme being, well, rubbish. If > you change your theme to the default G

Re: A tool for tracking masked updates to stable packages

2008-08-10 Thread Vincent Fourmond
Hello, Marcin Owsiany wrote: > | - making local changes to the official version. In this case, the most > |reliable way is to make the version string sort as older than the > |official one (using the "tilde" feature of dpkg) and force > |installation of such package using pinning.

Re: A tool for tracking masked updates to stable packages

2008-08-10 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Marcin Owsiany] > I thought it might be good to ask here if I'm not trying to reinvent > something that already exists. Or maybe someone has some ideas about > this issue? One idea that occured to me, was to use the information collected by popularity-contest to see how many are using backported

Re: Bug#494488: ITP: polyml -- Standard ML implementation

2008-08-10 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 11:45:49PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > * Package name: polyml [...] > Description : Standard ML implementation > > Poly/ML supports the full version of the language as given in the > "Definition of Standard ML (Revised)", generally known as ML97. As >