On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 11:57 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Work is ongoing to fold uClibc into Emdebian to reduce installation sizes
> > further.
>
> FYI, uclibc is no longer available in Debian sid/lenny.
uClibc will be
On Thursday 17 July 2008, richs wrote:
> I can assure you that on an http download i386 iso, m-a is not.
> http://atterer.net/jigdo/jigdo-search.php?q=module-assistant+_i386
You really need to check your facts better. If you use the links I
provided and just search the pages:
http://atterer.net/
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 6:23 AM, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Work is ongoing to fold uClibc into Emdebian to reduce installation sizes
> further.
FYI, uclibc is no longer available in Debian sid/lenny.
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On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 00:57 +0200, Francesco Namuri wrote:
> Il giorno mer, 16/07/2008 alle 17.46 -0500, William Pitcock ha scritto:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 22:59 +0200, Francesco Namuri wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I've packaged the new version of this library, the upstream author has
> >
Il giorno mer, 16/07/2008 alle 17.46 -0500, William Pitcock ha scritto:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 22:59 +0200, Francesco Namuri wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I've packaged the new version of this library, the upstream author has
> > changed the SONAME, and so I've changed the name of the lib and -data
Le Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 08:21:14PM +, brian m. carlson a écrit :
>
> Non-free (and contrib) packages are not part of Debian and are therefore
> not shipped on Debian CDs or DVDs. I understand your frustration with
> not being able to use your wireless card out of the box; I have the same
> pr
Hi,
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 22:59 +0200, Francesco Namuri wrote:
> Hi,
> I've packaged the new version of this library, the upstream author has
> changed the SONAME, and so I've changed the name of the lib and -data
> package, not changed the name of the -dev file because the old
> maintainer has ch
Hi Fjp:
I am surprised that the dependencies are on the image, as I have always
been met with problems trying to install build-essential from the first iso.
I will post the output from the terminal on my next fresh install of
Lenny and Etch.
I can assure you that on an http download i386 is
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> Well, it doesn't affect upgrades. And for new installs, _all_ the
> packages are new, so this falls under the case of Debian picking one
> alternative of something as a default.
Well, if Debian defaults change long term users need to know - even for new
Hi,
I've packaged the new version of this library, the upstream author has
changed the SONAME, and so I've changed the name of the lib and -data
package, not changed the name of the -dev file because the old
maintainer has chosen to not version the package.
This is my first library package, and I'
richs wrote:
> Hi, basically I am requesting module-assistant, build-essential and the
> kernel headers for the default kernel on the first iso.
I really don't have a clue what you're going on about then.
If you check these pages, you'll see that all three package you name _are_
on the first CD
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 08:21:14PM +, brian m. carlson wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:53:24PM +0200, richs wrote:
>> I think that including headers, m-a and build essential would be a good
>> move for the developers. Other distros have out-of-the-box non-free
>> and proprietary apps/dr
[Jonas Meurer]
> I believe that this switch should be documented in the release notes
> as well, shouldn't it?
Well, it doesn't affect upgrades. And for new installs, _all_ the
packages are new, so this falls under the case of Debian picking one
alternative of something as a default. I don't kn
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:53:24PM +0200, richs wrote:
I think that including headers, m-a and build essential would be a good
move for the developers. Other distros have out-of-the-box non-free and
proprietary apps/drivers/codecs, I would just like to see Debian offer a
complete base on tha
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Hi, basically I am requesting module-assistant, build-essential and the
kernel headers for the default kernel on the first iso. These are basic
tools that are necessary to be able to install non-free, proprietary
packages such as madwifi, nvidia-drivers etc.
My main point is the wireless issue
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 00:45 +0200, Loïc Minier wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008, Neil Williams wrote:
> > 1. gtk+2.0 fails to cross-build because the patches now try to build the
> > udeb which comes up against a bug in dpkg-cross. I've uploaded the
> > new version (including a couple of other bug fix
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 08:56:24PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:44:00PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:26:48PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:53:52PM +0300, Teodor wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 09:44:00PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:26:48PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:53:52PM +0300, Teodor wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> > > See
Bastian Blank wrote:
> Xen got a often used technique in the last two years. All of the large
> distributions got some sort of support for it. Debian Etch have full
> support for it. There was several requests of various people so I think
> not providing at least a minimal support in Lenny is wrong
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:26:48PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:53:52PM +0300, Teodor wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >> > > See: http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps
> > >> > > I think x86-64 xen
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On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:53:52PM +0300, Teodor wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > > See: http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps
> >> > > I think x86-64 xen patches are going in for 2.6.27..
> >
> > Lenny will not support 64bit, no
Hi,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> They are free, do not take up space, but
> without them (on a wireless only computer) you hit a vicious circle;
> Needing internet to be able to get internet.
Avoiding the free vs. non-free firmware issue, most of these packages
are available on Debian CDs/DVDs, jus
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > See: http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps
>> > > I think x86-64 xen patches are going in for 2.6.27..
>
> Lenny will not support 64bit, no dom0.. so basicly lenny can only be used as
> a 32bit domU .. unl
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 08:37:12 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thank you. I can write a proposed addition to the Policy Manual for
> TrueType fonts after I'm done with the current package unless someone
> else wants to do it. The "update-fonts-dir" utility currently only
> handles fonts in t
> Original Message
> Subject: Re: font policy changes
> From: Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, July 16, 2008 4:20 am
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> The font caches should be automatically updated as soon as you
On 15/07/2008 Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> I just did the requested switch, sysklogd/klogd are now priority extra,
> rsyslog (not its -mysql -pgsql packages) are now priority important.
>
> If something else, like Tasks or so, needs to be changed too: Whoever
> needs to do that please do it. Thanks.
th
Gunnar Wolf, le Wed 16 Jul 2008 07:42:37 -0500, a écrit :
> > I could live with the I/O slowdown but nothing will make hardware
> > magically appear.
>
> Please explain further on this. Do you mean that xen can run
> paravirtualized hosts without the hardware features (i.e. the lesser
> CPUs sold
Gunnar Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Goswin von Brederlow dijo [Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:10:30PM +0200]:
>> > I don't think that any of the alternatives are valid candidates yet:
>> > - Linux-Vserver, OpenVZ: clearly not the same use case.
>> > - Virtualbox, qemu: poor performance under some w
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 02:11:48PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:11:06AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
> >
> > Without dom0, lenny will be unusable for several installations of mine
> > which presently run an ugly combination of etch's dom0 and lenny's
> > kernel. I
Goswin von Brederlow dijo [Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:10:30PM +0200]:
> > I don't think that any of the alternatives are valid candidates yet:
> > - Linux-Vserver, OpenVZ: clearly not the same use case.
> > - Virtualbox, qemu: poor performance under some workloads.
>
> Unusable for production work. E
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:11:06AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:35 +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:51:21PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, B
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:11:06AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
>
> Without dom0, lenny will be unusable for several installations of mine
> which presently run an ugly combination of etch's dom0 and lenny's
> kernel. I would like to do that in a different way.
>
> If we will not see dom0 in lin
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 14:11 +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 07:11:06AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
> >
> > Without dom0, lenny will be unusable for several installations of mine
> > which presently run an ugly combination of etch's dom0 and lenny's
> > kernel. I would l
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:35 +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:51:21PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +03
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 02:23:26PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:57:26AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:51 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > > > see relevant posts of Ian C
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 02:23:26PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> Like said, this thread was started to discuss about possible options of
> getting xen dom0 support into lenny, and I pasted that git link to give a
> status update of pv_ops work happening atm.
current best guess is lenny+half.
h
Le dimanche 13 juillet 2008 à 21:16 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a
écrit :
> 4) What are the preferred steps for registering a TrueType font in
> Debian? It is outside the X11 directory structure, and depends on the
> TrueType font server. GNOME recognizes a newly installed TrueType font
> but is the
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 11:57:26AM +0100, Ian Campbell wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:51 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > > see relevant posts of Ian Campbell on d-kernel
> > >
> >
> > You mean this?: http://lists.debian.o
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On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:35:09PM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:51:21PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:5
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 12:51 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > see relevant posts of Ian Campbell on d-kernel
> >
>
> You mean this?: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2008/07/msg00070.html
>
> I think the situation has chan
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 12:51:21PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hopefully Jeremy Fitzharding
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Christian Perrier wrote:
> Quoting Eugene V. Lyubimkin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
>> Should I mass-file the bugs or this situation can be resolved through
>> different approach?
>
>
> While you're technically right, apparently, I think that this issue
>
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 10:50:22AM +0200, maximilian attems wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ben Hutchings wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> >
> > > Hopefully Jeremy Fitzhardinge (from Xensource) and others can get the
> > > important Xen kernel features
I would like to ask why essential packages are not included on the first Debian
download cd/iso. I use Nvidia and Atheros wireless, but the packages
module-assistant, build essential, kernel headers, wireless-tools etc, are
needed for most other graphic, network driver and firmware installations
On Wed, 16 Jul 2008, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
>
> > Hopefully Jeremy Fitzhardinge (from Xensource) and others can get the
> > important Xen kernel features ported to pv_ops framework and integrated
> > into vanilla linus kernels soon
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 03:51:12AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 11:42 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> >
> > I guess it was faster _now_, but they'll have to live with the forward
> > porting pain for years more now..
>
> While this is true, the patches still allo
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 03:40:38AM -0500, William Pitcock wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 11:12 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 01:54:50AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hopefully Jeremy Fitz
Gunnar Wolf wrote:
>> The problem also appears for vserver kernel.
>
> It is currently in Sid [1], and it has been for some time already. It
> seems it will very soon reach Lenny [2] (In case status changes by the
> moment you check it: linux-2.6 is going in today (thanks to manual
> hinting by lu
Hi,
On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 11:42 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
>
> I guess it was faster _now_, but they'll have to live with the forward
> porting pain for years more now..
While this is true, the patches still allow for Debian to ship Lenny
without a feature regression in Xen support.
William
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On Wed, 2008-07-16 at 11:12 +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 01:54:50AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> >
> > > Hopefully Jeremy Fitzhardinge (from Xensource) and others can get the
> > > important Xen kernel
On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 01:54:50AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 05:22:55PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
>
> > Hopefully Jeremy Fitzhardinge (from Xensource) and others can get the
> > important Xen kernel features ported to pv_ops framework and integrated
> > into vanill
Quoting Eugene V. Lyubimkin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Should I mass-file the bugs or this situation can be resolved through
> different approach?
While you're technically right, apparently, I think that this issue
should be solved by a discussion to either adapt the policy wrt
current practice (fon
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