Re: packages up for adoption

2008-05-25 Thread Anibal Avelar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Serafeim. >> >> > archivemail > > Anibal, funny as it may sound, would you mind letting archivemail to me? You > can still have the rest :) (or else just ignore this email) Ok, go ahead. archivemail is written on Python. I'm expert on C/C++. I

Re: Large data packages in the archive

2008-05-25 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Joerg Jaspert wrote: That already has a problem: How to define "large"? One way, which we chose for now, is simply "everything > 50MB". Random thought: some architecture-dependent -dbg packages are also > 50 MB in size. Shouldn't they get some special treatment, too? -- Alexander E. Patrako

Re: Bug#482913: ITP: daptup -- see changes in new & upgradeable lists after aptitude update

2008-05-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/25/08 15:54, Eugene V. Lyubimkin wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > * Package name: daptup > Version : 0.2 > Upstream Author : Eugene V. Lyubimkin <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: Large data packages in the archive

2008-05-25 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, May 26, 2008 at 02:02:52AM +0200, Joerg Jaspert a écrit : > On 11397 March 1977, Charles Plessy wrote: > > > I have a question about the sources: for big datasets, would it be > > acceptable that the source package does not contain the data itself but > > only a script to download it? Sinc

Re: Large data packages in the archive

2008-05-25 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11397 March 1977, Charles Plessy wrote: > I have a question about the sources: for big datasets, would it be > acceptable that the source package does not contain the data itself but > only a script to download it? Since the source packages are not to be > autobuilt and the binary packages only

Re: Large data packages in the archive

2008-05-25 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11396 March 1977, Raphael Geissert wrote: > What about going the 'b.)' way but define it as a RG (or even RC) with some > other changes to policy (like requiring big data package's source packages > to be arch-indep and not build anything else but the data packages). No, as already written in

Re: Large data packages in the archive

2008-05-25 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, May 25, 2008 at 08:18:01PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert a écrit : > Basic Problem: "What to do with large data packages?" > > That already has a problem: How to define "large"? One way, which we > chose for now, is simply "everything > 50MB". (...) > - It is an own archive, so it needs full sou

Re: Large data packages in the archive

2008-05-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Raphael Geissert wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> What about going the 'b.)' way but define it as a RG (or even RC) with some >> other changes to policy (like requiring big data package's source packages >> to be arch-indep and not build anything else but the data p

Re: Generated files and patch systems

2008-05-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'm getting into a crazy situation with this lintian warning: > > patch-system-but-direct-changes-in-diff > > I've removed one diversion from libgpewidget but I still need to use one > and this requires a patch to configure.ac using dpatch. This then > r

Bug#482921: Bug#482902: please provide libc6-hppa64 and libc6-hppa64-dev packages

2008-05-25 Thread Andreas Barth
severity 482921 important thanks Hi, * Matthias Klose ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [080526 00:06]: > Aurelien Jarno writes: > > Matthias Klose a écrit : > > > Package: glibc > > > Version: 2.7-11 > > > Severity: important > > > > > > Please build libc6-hppa64 and libc6-hppa64-dev packages; there is no >

Processed: Re: Bug#482902: please provide libc6-hppa64 and libc6-hppa64-dev packages

2008-05-25 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Processed: Re: Bug#482902: please provide libc6-hppa64 and libc6-hppa64-dev packages

2008-05-25 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > clone 482902 -1 Bug#482902: please provide libc6-hppa64 and libc6-hppa64-dev packages Bug 482902 cloned as bug 482921. > reassign -1 general Bug#482921: please provide libc6-hppa64 and libc6-hppa64-dev packages Bug reassigned from package `glibc' to `g

Re: Large data packages in the archive

2008-05-25 Thread Luk Claes
Raphael Geissert wrote: > Luk Claes wrote: >> Are you sure that the current sync scripts make that possible and won't >> sync everything unless explicitely stated differently and will keep >> working without intervention for the time being? Because otherwise it's >> like Joerg said not an option IM

Re: Large data packages in the archive

2008-05-25 Thread Raphael Geissert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Luk Claes wrote: > > Are you sure that the current sync scripts make that possible and won't > sync everything unless explicitely stated differently and will keep > working without intervention for the time being? Because otherwise it's > like Joerg s

Bug#482913: ITP: daptup -- see changes in new & upgradeable lists after aptitude update

2008-05-25 Thread Eugene V. Lyubimkin
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Eugene V. Lyubimkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: daptup Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Eugene V. Lyubimkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sf.net/projects/daptup * License : GPLv3 Programming Lang: Bash D

Re: Large data packages in the archive

2008-05-25 Thread Luk Claes
Raphael Geissert wrote: > Hi all, > > What about going the 'b.)' way but define it as a RG (or even RC) with some > other changes to policy (like requiring big data package's source packages > to be arch-indep and not build anything else but the data packages). > > That way the transition could

Re: Large data packages in the archive

2008-05-25 Thread Raphael Geissert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, What about going the 'b.)' way but define it as a RG (or even RC) with some other changes to policy (like requiring big data package's source packages to be arch-indep and not build anything else but the data packages). That way the transiti

Re: Large data packages in the archive

2008-05-25 Thread Ove Kaaven
Joerg Jaspert skrev: - Packages in main need to be installable and not cause their (indirect) reverse build-depends to FTBFS in the absence of data.debian.org. If the data is necessary for the package to work and there is a small dataset (like 5 to 10 MB) that can be reasonably substitu

Re: Generated files and patch systems

2008-05-25 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 25 May 2008, Mark Brown wrote: > On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 01:07:56PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > > So I am running the relevant autotools at build time but I still get the > > warning. > > If you run autotools at build time you should also ensure that the > changes which autotools make

Re: Large data packages in the archive

2008-05-25 Thread Michael Hanke
Hi, On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 08:18:01PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > So assume we go for solution c. (which is what happens unless someone > has a *very* strong reason not to, which I currently can't imagine) we > will setup a seperate archive for this. This will work the same way as > our main a

Re: What about use xml for descriptions of packages?

2008-05-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/25/08 13:03, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 08:29:56AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: >> What's an extra few MB plus parsing overhead when "everyone" has >> 250GB HDDs, multi-core 64-bit CPUs and 2+GB RAM? >> > > Huh?. Why commit "g

Large data packages in the archive

2008-05-25 Thread Joerg Jaspert
Hi, one important question lately has been "What should we do with large packages containing data", like game data, huge icon/wallpaper sets, some science data sets, etc. Naturally, this is a decision ftpmaster has to take, so here are our thoughts on it to facilitate discussion and see if we miss

Re: packages up for adoption

2008-05-25 Thread Joey Hess
David Watson wrote: > I'll take rss2email if no one else wants to. Ok, you have it. Good luck! -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: What about use xml for descriptions of packages?

2008-05-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 08:29:56AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > What's an extra few MB plus parsing overhead when "everyone" has > 250GB HDDs, multi-core 64-bit CPUs and 2+GB RAM? > Huh?. Why commit "good" machines to the landfill? -- Chris. == "One, with God, is always a majority, but many

Re: What about use xml for descriptions of packages?

2008-05-25 Thread Manuel Prinz
First of all, I did not get it in my first reply that you spoke from a translaters point of view. I just have a very limited view on translation work, so my arguments may not be correct. Am Sonntag, den 25.05.2008, 16:05 +0200 schrieb Fernando Cerezal: > How can a program know if > > * A descrip

Re: Generated files and patch systems

2008-05-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 13:19 +0100, Mark Brown wrote: >> If you run autotools at build time you should also ensure that the >> changes which autotools makes are reverted in the clean target. This >> means that your diff doesn't get cluttered with automat

Re: What about use xml for descriptions of packages?

2008-05-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/25/08 08:34, David Paleino wrote: > On Sun, 25 May 2008 08:29:56 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> What's an extra few MB plus parsing overhead when "everyone" has >> 250GB HDDs, multi-core 64-bit CPUs and 2+GB RAM? > > Well, and what about !i386,

Bug#482846: ITP: arora -- simple cross platform web browser.

2008-05-25 Thread Sune Vuorela
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: arora Version : 0.2~git-of-the-day Upstream Author : Benjamin Meyer * URL : http://code.google.com/p/arora * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ / Qt Description :

Re: What about use xml for descriptions of packages?

2008-05-25 Thread Fernando Cerezal
2008/5/25 Manuel Prinz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Am Sonntag, den 25.05.2008, 14:40 +0200 schrieb Fernando Cerezal: >> I'm thinking about advantages and disadvantages of write the >> description of the packages using XML. > > I like XML but it's a huge pain to write by hand. The current format is > eas

Re: What about use xml for descriptions of packages?

2008-05-25 Thread Noah Slater
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 08:46:22AM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 02:40:07PM +0200, Fernando Cerezal wrote: > > I'm thinking about advantages and disadvantages of write the > > description of the packages using XML. > > Personally, I would hate this. I've written too ma

Re: What about use xml for descriptions of packages?

2008-05-25 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 08:29 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > 13 x 10 x 20,000 = bloat. > > It would probably be more like one paragraph per . Still far too much. > > Now that really is out of the question - please remember that the > > packages descriptions go into the dpkg database which is alread

Re: What about use xml for descriptions of packages?

2008-05-25 Thread David Paleino
On Sun, 25 May 2008 08:29:56 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > What's an extra few MB plus parsing overhead when "everyone" has > 250GB HDDs, multi-core 64-bit CPUs and 2+GB RAM? Well, and what about !i386, !amd64 and !powerpc ? ;) -- . ''`. Debian maintainer | http://wiki.debian.org/DavidPaleino

Re: What about use xml for descriptions of packages?

2008-05-25 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/25/08 08:17, Neil Williams wrote: > On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 15:07 +0200, Fernando Cerezal wrote: [snip] > >> A description with lines > > Is an extra 13 characters per line, per description, per package. > > 13 x 10 x 20,000 = bloat. It would p

Re: What about use xml for descriptions of packages?

2008-05-25 Thread Manuel Prinz
Am Sonntag, den 25.05.2008, 14:40 +0200 schrieb Fernando Cerezal: > I'm thinking about advantages and disadvantages of write the > description of the packages using XML. I like XML but it's a huge pain to write by hand. The current format is easy to read, easy to write and easy to parse. This is i

Re: What about use xml for descriptions of packages?

2008-05-25 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 15:07 +0200, Fernando Cerezal wrote: > 2008/5/25 Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 02:40:07PM +0200, Fernando Cerezal wrote: > Yes, you are right. However, currently the translations of the Debian > website are being done by hand, so there is

Re: Generated files and patch systems

2008-05-25 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 14:01 +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 13:19 +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 01:07:56PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > > > > So I am running the relevant autotools at build time but I still get the > > > warning. > > > > If you run au

Re: What about use xml for descriptions of packages?

2008-05-25 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 08:46 -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 02:40:07PM +0200, Fernando Cerezal wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm thinking about advantages and disadvantages of write the > > description of the packages using XML. > > Personally, I would hate this. I've written t

Re: What about use xml for descriptions of packages?

2008-05-25 Thread Fernando Cerezal
2008/5/25 Roberto C. Sánchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 02:40:07PM +0200, Fernando Cerezal wrote: >> Hello, >> I'm thinking about advantages and disadvantages of write the >> description of the packages using XML. > > Personally, I would hate this. I've written too many ant bui

Re: What about use xml for descriptions of packages?

2008-05-25 Thread Mikhail Gusarov
Twas brillig at 14:40:07 25.05.2008 UTC+02 when Fernando Cerezal did gyre and gimble: FC> I think using XML the descriptions can be rendered in different FC> form for text and graphical tools. Same for current format. Just use perl/python/whatever instead of XSLT. FC> The URL of the descript

Re: Generated files and patch systems

2008-05-25 Thread Neil Williams
On Sun, 2008-05-25 at 13:19 +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 01:07:56PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > > > So I am running the relevant autotools at build time but I still get the > > warning. > > If you run autotools at build time you should also ensure that the > changes which

Re: What about use xml for descriptions of packages?

2008-05-25 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 02:40:07PM +0200, Fernando Cerezal wrote: > Hello, > I'm thinking about advantages and disadvantages of write the > description of the packages using XML. Personally, I would hate this. I've written too many ant build.xml scripts to think that writing XML by hand is even a

What about use xml for descriptions of packages?

2008-05-25 Thread Fernando Cerezal
Hello, I'm thinking about advantages and disadvantages of write the description of the packages using XML. I think using XML the descriptions can be rendered in different form for text and graphical tools. The URL of the descriptions can be real links and, even and the project thinks it is appropia

Re: Generated files and patch systems

2008-05-25 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 01:07:56PM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > So I am running the relevant autotools at build time but I still get the > warning. If you run autotools at build time you should also ensure that the changes which autotools makes are reverted in the clean target. This means that

Generated files and patch systems

2008-05-25 Thread Neil Williams
I'm getting into a crazy situation with this lintian warning: patch-system-but-direct-changes-in-diff I've removed one diversion from libgpewidget but I still need to use one and this requires a patch to configure.ac using dpatch. This then regenerates configure and aclocal.m4. I think patch-sys

Re: what about an special QA package priority?

2008-05-25 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 06:44:39PM +0200, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 06:03:51PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > So, basically, I welcome your proposal, but IMO its simplest and most > > effective implementation would be: ``packages scoring high in popcon > > have to

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