Re: [proposal] Documenting which revision is installed

2007-12-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 11:53:25PM +0100, Adeodato Sim?? wrote: > *Personally*, I like the idea of Javier Fern??ndez-Sanguino expressed in > the mail linked above of keeping debian_version as is, and introducing > /etc/lsb-release with detailed information like: > DISTRIB_ID=Debian > DISTRIB_RE

Re: [proposal] Documenting which revision is installed

2007-12-26 Thread Luk Claes
Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: > Hi, Hi > i would like to propose that we change /etc/debian_version with > beginning of lenny to also show which revision of a release is > installed. Ack. > Rational: We do regular updates to stable releases (called point > releases) from time to time but you can't

Re: [proposal] Documenting which revision is installed

2007-12-26 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Martin Zobel-Helas [Wed, 26 Dec 2007 23:33:17 +0100]: > Hi, Hi. I personally have nothing against. However, remembering the thread at [1], I'm not sure what the base-files maintainer will think of that. [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/05/msg01138.html *Personally*, I like th

Bug#457892: ITP: online-desktop -- Online Desktop for GNOME

2007-12-26 Thread Julien Lavergne
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org --- Please fill out the fields below. --- * Package name: online-desktop Version : 0.2.22 Upstream Author : Havoc Pennington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://live.gnome.org/OnlineDesktop *

[proposal] Documenting which revision is installed

2007-12-26 Thread Martin Zobel-Helas
Hi, i would like to propose that we change /etc/debian_version with beginning of lenny to also show which revision of a release is installed. Rational: We do regular updates to stable releases (called point releases) from time to time but you can't tell from installed files which revision (point

Virus found: "Mail System Error - Returned Mail"

2007-12-26 Thread SpamAdmin
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Bug#457883: ITP: libsetproctitle -- A setproctitle implementation

2007-12-26 Thread Max Lapan
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Max Lapan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libsetproctitle Version : 0.3.1 Upstream Author : Dmitry V. Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sisyphus.ru/srpm/Sisyphus/setproctitle/get * License : LGPL/BSD-style Pr

Re: Editing the sources in "debian/rules clean"

2007-12-26 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Miriam Ruiz [Wed, 26 Dec 2007 19:47:52 +0100]: > (I personally prefer to > do that in configure, and to remove config.{sub,guess,log,status} in > clean, so that diff files are cleaner, I wish everybody did it that way. I'm also happy to see that it's now how dh-make will do it, good. Cheers,

Re: Bug#457353: gdome2-xslt: should not be a Debian-native package

2007-12-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:23:32 +0100, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Oh, I agree. I was only talking about a situation in which the Debian >> maintainer of a given package is the very same person as the upstream >> developer. > E

Bug#457839: general: Many man pages display shell quotes ` and ' wrong in Unicode environment

2007-12-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I used to come across this intermittently - usually when trying to copy > and paste examples from a manpage. However, the situation appears solved > in a Unicode environment: > > This perldoc code: > Only print the list, do not call 'sudo dpkg -P' > beco

Re: Editing the sources in "debian/rules clean"

2007-12-26 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2007/12/26, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > This the issue, but I think it could be more widespread. It turns out > that the package in question (tar) was last uploaded before the > autotools were finalized for etch, so the copying is not a no-op in this > particular case (but I hope that th

Re: DOAP files

2007-12-26 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007, Luca Brivio wrote: > BTW, I don't know what's with the "Collaborative Repository of > Meta-Informations"[1]. Maybe Raphael can provide some useful insights to the > debate. Well, CRMI is still a concept, we got mole implemented by Jeroen which helps a lot in archive-wide sca

Re: Editing the sources in "debian/rules clean"

2007-12-26 Thread Florian Weimer
* Petter Reinholdtsen: > [Florian Weimer] >> It has come to my attention that a number of packages edit source files >> (i.e. non-generated files in the source directory tree) in the "clean" >> target of debian/rules. > > Do you have any example packages to mention? I've seen some updating > of t

Re: Editing the sources in "debian/rules clean"

2007-12-26 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Florian Weimer] > It has come to my attention that a number of packages edit source files > (i.e. non-generated files in the source directory tree) in the "clean" > target of debian/rules. Do you have any example packages to mention? I've seen some updating of the config.* files in the clean ta

Re: wxwidgets 2.8, anyone?

2007-12-26 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 02:26:30PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > 1. Get wx2.4 out of the archive _soon_. There's a list in wiki.d.o about > the status of the last applications using wx2.4, if I remember right. > Their maintainers had more than enough time to et them migrated to 2.6 > (or 2.8, if th

Editing the sources in "debian/rules clean"

2007-12-26 Thread Florian Weimer
It has come to my attention that a number of packages edit source files (i.e. non-generated files in the source directory tree) in the "clean" target of debian/rules. Policy is mostly silent on this issue. There's a requirement that "build, clean" is a no-op, but dpkg-buildpackage actually execut

Re: DOAP files

2007-12-26 Thread Luca Brivio
mer 26 dicembre 2007, Stefano Zacchiroli ha scritto: > I see two ways of serving it that seem to me much more useful: provide a > centralized, archive-wide place, where we serve all the DOAPs of Debian > packages. The more obvious places to me seem packages.d.o and/or the > PTS. BTW, I don't know

Re: Bug#457353: gdome2-xslt: should not be a Debian-native package

2007-12-26 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 2007-12-26 at 14:23 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 07:17:16PM +, Neil Williams wrote: > > I'd just add: > > * it isn't in the spirit of free software to make it hard for others to > > use the code - making a package Debian-native when it could work on any > > GN

Re: Bug#457353: gdome2-xslt: should not be a Debian-native package

2007-12-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 26 Dec 2007 15:23:32 +0100, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Oh, I agree. I was only talking about a situation in which the Debian > maintainer of a given package is the very same person as the upstream > developer. Even in this case, I think one should consider making

Bug#457839: general: Many man pages display shell quotes ` and ' wrong in Unicode environment

2007-12-26 Thread Neil Williams
On Wed, 2007-12-26 at 14:54 +0200, Teemu Likonen wrote: > In Unix/Linux shells the Ascii apostrophe (') is used as single > quotation mark. The grave accent (`) is used as command substitution > mark. In many man pages these are displayed wrong because they have > different meaning in groff code.

Re: DOAP files

2007-12-26 Thread Enrico Zini
On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 10:11:18AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 02:50:32AM +0100, Luca Brivio wrote: > > 1) Should we include DOAP files from upstream in packages? (always?) > Why not :) I'd like too. > I see two ways of serving it that seem to me much more useful:

Re: Bug#457318: ITP: qmail -- a secure, reliable, ...

2007-12-26 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Ron Johnson wrote: > On Monday December 24 2007 12:34:07 Marco d'Itri wrote: >> On Dec 24, Turbo Fredriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] >>> I have Postfix crash more often on my home machine (~ 10 >>> mails / 24h - using an smarthost) than Qmail do on my main >>> mailservers (~ 10k mails /

Re: Bug#457353: gdome2-xslt: should not be a Debian-native package

2007-12-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 03:16:36PM +0100, Vincent Danjean wrote: > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Anyone who wants to package your source for something else than Debian > > is then free to completely and utterly ignore your debian/ directory... > > I'm trying to package two softwares where upstream

Re: Bug#457353: gdome2-xslt: should not be a Debian-native package

2007-12-26 Thread Vincent Danjean
Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Anyone who wants to package your source for something else than Debian > is then free to completely and utterly ignore your debian/ directory... I'm trying to package two softwares where upstream 1) puts its debian/ directory in their releases (X.Y.Z) 2) provides non-nat

Re: -Wl,--as-needed considered possibly harmful

2007-12-26 Thread Neil Williams
On Tue, 2007-12-25 at 20:12 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 10:55:32AM +, Neil Williams wrote: > > On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:44:19 -0800 > > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > But *nothing* here guarantees that the version of libbar the application > > > is >

Re: Bug#457353: gdome2-xslt: should not be a Debian-native package

2007-12-26 Thread Luk Claes
Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 07:17:16PM +, Neil Williams wrote: >> Luk Claes wrote: >>> Neil Williams wrote: i.e. native should be a last resort - used only when it is all but impossible for the package to be used outside Debian or some distro fundamentally ba

Re: Bug#457353: gdome2-xslt: should not be a Debian-native package

2007-12-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 07:35:12PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > tags 457353 + wontfix > thanks > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 07:20:57PM +, brian m. carlson wrote: > > You're missing a .diff.gz, which means that this is a native package. This > > package is in no way specific to Debian, w

Re: Bug#457353: gdome2-xslt: should not be a Debian-native package

2007-12-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Dec 23, 2007 at 07:17:16PM +, Neil Williams wrote: > Luk Claes wrote: > > Neil Williams wrote: > >> i.e. native should be a last resort - used only when it is all but > >> impossible for the package to be used outside Debian or some distro > >> fundamentally based on Debian like Ubuntu.

Bug#457839: general: Many man pages display shell quotes ` and ' wrong in Unicode environment

2007-12-26 Thread Teemu Likonen
Package: general Severity: normal In Unix/Linux shells the Ascii apostrophe (') is used as single quotation mark. The grave accent (`) is used as command substitution mark. In many man pages these are displayed wrong because they have different meaning in groff code. In groff code the non-escaped

Please test sysvinit package from experimental

2007-12-26 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
The last few days I have made an effort to fix a few bugs in the boot system. The changes need some testing, as I do not have all the affected hardware to test on. I've tested the changes in qemu, but that do not test some of the changes, like the part that avoid fsck when a laptop is running on

Bug#457821: ITP: msrp -- meta search and replace is a utility to rename files and gsub contents

2007-12-26 Thread Rudi Cilibrasi
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: msrp Version : 0.9.0 Upstream Author : Rudi Cilibrasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://cilibrar.com/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: C++ Description : meta se

Re: DOAP files

2007-12-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Dec 26, 2007 at 02:50:32AM +0100, Luca Brivio wrote: > 1) Should we include DOAP files from upstream in packages? (always?) Why not :) > 2) If so, where? (usr/share/doc sounds OK if they are only provided for sake > of completeness, while IMVHO if we want them to be globally parsed and/o