Re: About dpkg-shlibdeps checks

2007-11-23 Thread Soeren Sonnenburg
On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 10:39 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello, Hello, > as announced in > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/09/msg4.html the > new dpkg-shlibdeps is stricter in what it accepts and will fail when it > can't find dependency information for a library that is

Re: how to cross architecture build a package

2007-11-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 02:30:17AM +0100, Ondrej Certik wrote: > On Nov 24, 2007 1:17 AM, Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 12:01:33AM +, Paul Wise wrote: > > > On Nov 24, 2007 6:14 AM, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > trying to build a i386 pa

Re: how to cross architecture build a package

2007-11-23 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Nov 24, 2007 1:17 AM, Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 12:01:33AM +, Paul Wise wrote: > > On Nov 24, 2007 6:14 AM, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > trying to build a i386 package on a amd64 machine and i keep getting > > > > Are you building

Re: how to cross architecture build a package

2007-11-23 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sat, Nov 24, 2007 at 12:01:33AM +, Paul Wise wrote: > On Nov 24, 2007 6:14 AM, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > trying to build a i386 package on a amd64 machine and i keep getting > > Are you building in an i386 chroot? If not, try that. Adding > "--debootstrapopts --arch --deb

Re: how to cross architecture build a package

2007-11-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Nov 24, 2007 6:14 AM, Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > trying to build a i386 package on a amd64 machine and i keep getting Are you building in an i386 chroot? If not, try that. Adding "--debootstrapopts --arch --debootstrapopts i386" to the pbuilder/cowbuilder create command line shoul

Re: About dpkg-shlibdeps checks

2007-11-23 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Luk Claes wrote: > Nowadays there are better alternatives to uploading to unstable for > archive wide testing IMHO. Uploading to experimental is a good thing to > have some initial testing on many architectures, though I would go for a > rebuild of the whole archive for testing

Re: About dpkg-shlibdeps checks

2007-11-23 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 09:49:10PM +, Luk Claes wrote: > Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Sune Vuorela wrote: > >> On 2007-11-23, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Well, the d-d-a mail included a list of affected packages. So we had a > >>> clue on how many package

Re: Bug#377392: Bug#450432: ... and even more bugs like this?

2007-11-23 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Ivan Shmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > David Weinehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> A helper script, `lintian-man', could be introduced to hide all the >>> hackery, and to provide a way for the developer to reproduce the >>> problem. Then, Tag: may be changed to, e. g., >>> `

Re: About dpkg-shlibdeps checks

2007-11-23 Thread Luk Claes
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Sune Vuorela wrote: >> On 2007-11-23, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Well, the d-d-a mail included a list of affected packages. So we had a >>> clue on how many packages are affected. The list has probably evolved >>> since september but

Re: MTA comparison (postfix, exim4, ...)

2007-11-23 Thread Florian Weimer
* Henrique de Moraes Holschuh: > On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Florian Weimer wrote: >> Personally, what made me stick to Exim so far is the ability to >> configure retry behavior on a per-domain basis. One of my mail servers > > Postfix does that too. You direct the domains to a different transport, and

Re: Help With Custom Deb Package

2007-11-23 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 10:46:14AM +0100, Luca Capello wrote: > Hi Alex! > > On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:20:12 +0100, Alex Samad wrote: > > I am in the process of rebuilding one of my servers and I thought hey > > why not build a package, that links all the other packages I need, and > > the correspond

Re: MTA comparison (postfix, exim4, ...)

2007-11-23 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Florian Weimer wrote: > Personally, what made me stick to Exim so far is the ability to > configure retry behavior on a per-domain basis. One of my mail servers Postfix does that too. You direct the domains to a different transport, and setup that transport with whichever pa

Re: Help With Custom Deb Package

2007-11-23 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 07:55:00AM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Alex Samad wrote: > >>> Yes, I'm doing this for years. I ended up with binary packages >>> andreas-base, andreas-nox, andreas-x and andreas-laptop on my >>> local mirror and these packages will be installed on ne

how to cross architecture build a package

2007-11-23 Thread Alex Samad
Hi trying to build a i386 package on a amd64 machine and i keep getting dpkg-gencontrol: error: current host architecture 'amd64' does not appear in package's architecture list (i386) I am using debhelper to build the packages and I have tried dh_gencontrol -- -VArch=i386 but doesn't seem to b

Re: libFOO-BAR naming convention

2007-11-23 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Loïc Minier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I vaguely recall seeing a recommendation for library packages for a >> particular language to follow libFOO-BAR naming convention in >> Debian, where FOO is the name of a library, and BAR is an arbitrary >> common suffix (thus, liberror-perl, or

Bug#452566: ITP: libproc-fork-perl -- Perl interface to fork() system call

2007-11-23 Thread Rene Mayorga
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rene Mayorga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libproc-fork-perl Version : 0.4 Upstream Author : Aristotle Pagaltzis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Proc-Fork/ * License : GPL/Artistic Programmi

Bug#452557: ITP: bibutils -- interconvert various bibliographic data formats

2007-11-23 Thread David Bremner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: David Bremner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package name: bibutils Version : 3.39 Upstream Author : Chris Putnam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://www.scripps.edu/~cdputnam/software/bibutils/bibutils.html Programming Lang: C Licens

RE: libFOO-BAR naming convention

2007-11-23 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hello, > I vaguely recall seeing a recommendation for library packages > for a particular language to follow libFOO-BAR naming convention > in Debian, where FOO is the name of a library, and BAR is an > arbitrary common suffix (thus, liberror-perl, or > libsqlite-oca

libFOO-BAR naming convention

2007-11-23 Thread Jeremiah Foster
Hello, > I vaguely recall seeing a recommendation for library packages > for a particular language to follow libFOO-BAR naming convention > in Debian, where FOO is the name of a library, and BAR is an > arbitrary common suffix (thus, liberror-perl, or > libsqlite-ocam

Re: libFOO-BAR naming convention

2007-11-23 Thread Loïc Minier
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007, Ivan Shmakov wrote: > I vaguely recall seeing a recommendation for library packages > for a particular language to follow libFOO-BAR naming convention > in Debian, where FOO is the name of a library, and BAR is an > arbitrary common suffix (thus, liberr

Re: libFOO-BAR naming convention

2007-11-23 Thread Nico Golde
Hi Ivan, * Ivan Shmakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-11-23 14:57]: > I vaguely recall seeing a recommendation for library packages > for a particular language to follow libFOO-BAR naming convention > in Debian, where FOO is the name of a library, and BAR is an > arbitrary commo

Re: Bug#452511: About dpkg-shlibdeps checks

2007-11-23 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 01:40:39PM +, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > I'd rather be more strict and relax the rules as we identify cases where I > have been too strict, than let people upload broken .debs during weeks and > later discover that we have to scan the full archive to rebuild > a bunch of

libFOO-BAR naming convention

2007-11-23 Thread Ivan Shmakov
I vaguely recall seeing a recommendation for library packages for a particular language to follow libFOO-BAR naming convention in Debian, where FOO is the name of a library, and BAR is an arbitrary common suffix (thus, liberror-perl, or libsqlite-ocaml.)

Re: Bug#377392: Bug#450432: ... and even more bugs like this?

2007-11-23 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> David Weinehall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> A helper script, `lintian-man', could be introduced to hide all >> the hackery, and to provide a way for the developer to reproduce >> the problem. Then, Tag: may be changed to, e. g., >> `manpage-has-messages-from-lintian-man'. (Or should

Re: About dpkg-shlibdeps checks

2007-11-23 Thread Raphael Hertzog
[ CCing #452511 as I provide an explanation of why we shouldn't change back to --ignore-missing-info by default without careful consideration ] On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Damn I wanted to answer to that, and forgot: I don't think anyone > wants a revert. I'd expect you to make

Bug#452514: ITP: virt-viewer -- Displaying the graphical console of a virtual machine

2007-11-23 Thread Guido Guenther
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Guido Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: virt-viewer Version : 0.0.2 * License : GPLv2 Programming Lang: C Description : Displaying the graphical console of a virtual machine The console is accessed using the VNC pro

Bug#452513: ITP: virtinst -- Create and clone virtual machines

2007-11-23 Thread Guido Guenther
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Guido Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: virtinst * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Description : Create and clone virtual machines Create and clone virtual machines using libvirt. http://git.debian.org/?p=users/agx/v

Bug#452512: ITP: gtk-vnc -- A VNC viewer widget for GTK+

2007-11-23 Thread Guido Guenther
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Guido Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Description : A VNC viewer widget for GTK+ It is built using coroutines, allowing it to be completely asynchronous while remaining single threaded. It supports RFB protocols 3.3 through 3.8 and the VeNCrypt authent

Re: About dpkg-shlibdeps checks

2007-11-23 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On ven, nov 23, 2007 at 11:31:57 +, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > But I'm just not willing to fully revert a decision Damn I wanted to answer to that, and forgot: I don't think anyone wants a revert. I'd expect you to make lower the dpkg-shlibdeps expectations for a while, so that we can take ou

Re: About dpkg-shlibdeps checks

2007-11-23 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2007-11-23, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > they have some fixing to do (in particular when it looks like they don't > really understand the issues at hand). If this was targetted at me, then please explain me what I don't really understand. /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [E

Re: About dpkg-shlibdeps checks

2007-11-23 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On ven, nov 23, 2007 at 11:31:57 +, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > (in particular when it looks like they don't really understand the > issues at hand). Please, this ad hominem isn't deserved, because the KDE team could exactly answer the same to you. Mind you, but the huge workload you just infli

Re: About dpkg-shlibdeps checks

2007-11-23 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 11:15:46AM +, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > > But forcing every maintainer that probably had an agenda for their > > package already, to comply to yours without even knowing what's coming > > is at the very least tactless and disruptive. > > the n

Re: About dpkg-shlibdeps checks

2007-11-23 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2007-11-23, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, the d-d-a mail included a list of affected packages. So we had a > > clue on how many packages are affected. The list has probably evolved > > since september but not by much. > > Except

Re: About dpkg-shlibdeps checks

2007-11-23 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Pierre Habouzit wrote: > But forcing every maintainer that probably had an agenda for their > package already, to comply to yours without even knowing what's coming > is at the very least tactless and disruptive. the new dpkg was in experimental for a long enough time, and this was announced of

Re: Help With Custom Deb Package

2007-11-23 Thread Andreas Tille
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Luca Capello wrote: http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/blog/2007/11/14#2007-11-14-hacking-equivs Well, if you really want a system to create your meta packages you could either use equivs or cdd-dev. AJ is right here that you add a little bit more complexity to the system, bu

Re: About dpkg-shlibdeps checks

2007-11-23 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On ven, nov 23, 2007 at 10:14:51 +, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > does your plan include having a version of the dpkg-shlibdeps that > > works in "warning-mode" only so that we can have a more extensive idea > > of how the things are going to be, bef

Re: About dpkg-shlibdeps checks

2007-11-23 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2007-11-23, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, the d-d-a mail included a list of affected packages. So we had a > clue on how many packages are affected. The list has probably evolved > since september but not by much. Except covering kde now. KDE didn't change that much since s

Re: What to do when the LaTeX sources are missing, but an XML?equivalent was rewritten from scratch ?

2007-11-23 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 22 Nov 2007, Frank Küster wrote: > Don Armstrong debian.org> writes: > > Then why distribute the original PDFs at all in that case? > > Because the purpose of the document is to show the differences > between several (free as well as non-free) fonts, and help the user > make a choice. So

Re: About dpkg-shlibdeps checks

2007-11-23 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 23 Nov 2007, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > does your plan include having a version of the dpkg-shlibdeps that > works in "warning-mode" only so that we can have a more extensive idea > of how the things are going to be, before it stops the development of > the biggest and already hardest packa

Re: About dpkg-shlibdeps checks

2007-11-23 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, Nov 23, 2007 at 09:39:58AM +, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hello, > > as announced in > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/09/msg4.html the > new dpkg-shlibdeps is stricter in what it accepts and will fail when it > can't find dependency information for a library that i

Re: Help With Custom Deb Package

2007-11-23 Thread Luca Capello
Hi Alex! On Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:20:12 +0100, Alex Samad wrote: > I am in the process of rebuilding one of my servers and I thought hey > why not build a package, that links all the other packages I need, and > the corresponding configuration files. Not that I'm an expert on it, but it seems that

About dpkg-shlibdeps checks

2007-11-23 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, as announced in http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2007/09/msg4.html the new dpkg-shlibdeps is stricter in what it accepts and will fail when it can't find dependency information for a library that is used by an executable or a public library (a public library is defined as a

Re: MTA comparison (postfix, exim4, ...)

2007-11-23 Thread Florian Weimer
* Miles Bader: > Postfix has a reputation for being faster and more secure than exim. Nowadays, the Postfix code base is larger than the Exim code base. > Why is it worth worrying about, though? Are the difference between exim > and postfix really great enough to matter for typical use?!? "/us