Re: dh_installinit

2007-11-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:03:40 -0800, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> Those file descriptor close loops are somewhat controversial. Not >> everyone agrees that they're a good idea, and some upstreams will push >> back on doing it. I find th

Re: RFC: cups as "default" printing system for lenny?

2007-11-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 21:42:52 -0800, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Also, do we really need *any* printing system as priority: standard? > It's not clear to me that printing is still really part of a standard > Unix installation, even for desktop users (and it definitely isn't for > serv

Re: dh_installinit

2007-11-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 10:03:40 -0800, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> This might work, but the correct fix is to get the daemon to close >> all file descriptors when it daemonizes. > Those file descriptor close loops are somewhat controve

Re: LSB-ize daemon without pidfile handling

2007-11-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 16:19:37 +0100, Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:00:42 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> [Marc Haber] >>> I do not plan to do so for obvious reasons. >> >> It is not obvious for me. Can you explain why it should be obviou

Re: RFC: cups as "default" printing system for lenny?

2007-11-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Bernd Zeimetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Not sure if anybody is still using the old BSD printing stuff - at least > I can't see any reason why it should have a higher priority than > optional. I am. It's simple and it works, and CUPS seems ridiculously bloated for the only printing need I hav

Re: RFC: cups as "default" printing system for lenny?

2007-11-10 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Russ Allbery wrote: > Also, do we really need *any* printing system as priority: standard? It's > not clear to me that printing is still really part of a standard Unix > installation, even for desktop users (and it definitely isn't for > servers). > I'd guess most Desktop installations have a

Re: RFC: cups as "default" printing system for lenny?

2007-11-10 Thread Joey Hess
lpr's standard priority nonwithstanding, CUPS has been the default print system in Debian -- if you select the desktop or print server tasks -- for at least the last two releases. This is why popcon shows 5000 lpr installations to 45000 cupsys installations. Yes, it would make more sense for samba

Re: RFC: cups as "default" printing system for lenny?

2007-11-10 Thread Russ Allbery
I don't have any objections to Samba switching, but for the rest: Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > - Should we consider raising the priority of cupsys to standard, to take the > place of lpr as an available-by-default printing system on stock installs? The last time I looked at CUP

RFC: cups as "default" printing system for lenny?

2007-11-10 Thread Steve Langasek
A few years back, Samba upstream began using CUPS as the default printing system whenever CUPS support was enabled. At the time, cupsys was Priority: optional, and lpr as the standard Unix printing interface was Priority: standard (or higher), so I patched the Samba packages in Debian to default t

Re: Long-term mass bug filing for crossbuild support

2007-11-10 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 10 November 2007 schrieb Neil Williams: > On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:02:31 +0100 > Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Am Dienstag 06 November 2007 schrieb Neil Williams: > > > The most common change is simply to retrieve the cross-building > > > metadata from dpkg-architecture in

Bug#450801: ITP: yac163 -- Yet Another Client for 163.net

2007-11-10 Thread LI Daobing
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: LI Daobing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: LI Daobing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: yac163 Version : 0.3.0 Upstream Author : Tao Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : https://sourceforge.net/projects/y

Re: crossbuild support: help2man considered harmful

2007-11-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Pierre THIERRY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Scribit Josselin Mouette dies 09/11/2007 hora 22:53: >> BTW, there is another package which does this, and which is likely to >> cause you much more trouble: python. The build system compiles the >> modules using the generated python binary. > This is

Re: crossbuild support: help2man considered harmful

2007-11-10 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 10 novembre 2007 à 17:18 +0100, Pierre THIERRY a écrit : > Scribit Josselin Mouette dies 09/11/2007 hora 22:53: > > BTW, there is another package which does this, and which is likely to > > cause you much more trouble: python. The build system compiles the > > modules using the generated

Re: Opinions sought: mlocate appropriate for Priority: standard?

2007-11-10 Thread Joey Hess
Josh Triplett wrote: > Thus, I would argue that: > > * No locate should have standard priority as long as findutils > contains locate. > * locate should move out of findutils into a separate package. > * Once that happens, if any locate should have priority standard, > mlocate should. > * Howe

Re: crossbuild support: help2man considered harmful

2007-11-10 Thread Pierre THIERRY
Scribit Josselin Mouette dies 09/11/2007 hora 22:53: > BTW, there is another package which does this, and which is likely to > cause you much more trouble: python. The build system compiles the > modules using the generated python binary. This is a classical problem in bootstrapping a language imp

Re: Consistent handling of the DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS

2007-11-10 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 05:49:11PM +0200, Riku Voipio wrote: > > As I see what Neil wrote, nocheck (I prefer this over notest) affects > only testsuite. As for *handling* packages that run compiled code during > build.. well that's the reason why scratchbox was invented :) I'm confused about how

Re: buildds: "Authentication warning overridden."

2007-11-10 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 06:53:12PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Hi all, > > It's not uncommon to see buildds (actually build tools) override the > package/Release signature warning. That's inevitable because http://incoming.debian.org is not signed; The update frequency of that repository (wh

Re: debian-infrastructure-announce (was: dupload failed)

2007-11-10 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 10:50:23AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Friday 09 November 2007 10:45, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: > > I'd suggest that if ftp-master is down, the message should go to both d-d-a > > and the infrastructure list. > > I'm not sure I see the benefit to also have it

Re: LSB-ize daemon without pidfile handling

2007-11-10 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 10:24:46PM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Petter Reinholdtsen [Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:00:42 +0100]: > > It is not obvious for me. Can you explain why it should be obvious > > that you do not plan to patch the daemon to write its own pid file? > > For me, the obvious solution

Re: LSB-ize daemon without pidfile handling

2007-11-10 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 04:15:24PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 08:49:22 +0100, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >log_daemon_msg "Starting Foo Daemon" "foo" > >start-stop-daemon --whatever --you --want --here > >log_end_msg 0 > > I do not think that this is particula

Re: LSB-ize daemon without pidfile handling

2007-11-10 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 09 Nov 2007 22:00:42 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >[Marc Haber] >> I do not plan to do so for obvious reasons. > >It is not obvious for me. Can you explain why it should be obvious >that you do not plan to patch the daemon to write its own pid file? >For me, the ob

Re: Long-term mass bug filing for crossbuild support

2007-11-10 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 10 Nov 2007 15:02:31 +0100 Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Am Dienstag 06 November 2007 schrieb Neil Williams: > > The most common change is simply to retrieve the cross-building > > metadata from dpkg-architecture in debian/rules: > > http://wiki.debian.org/EmdebianGuide > >

Bug#450781: ITP: Plasmidomics -- gui for plasmid and vector map drawing with postscript export / debian-med

2007-11-10 Thread Robert Winkler
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org --- Please fill out the fields below. --- Package name: Plasmidomics Version: 0.2 Upstream Author: [Dr. Robert Winkler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] URL: [http://www.bioprocess.org/plasmid/] License: [GPLv3] Description: [Plasmi

Re: Long-term mass bug filing for crossbuild support

2007-11-10 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Dienstag 06 November 2007 schrieb Neil Williams: > The most common change is simply to retrieve the cross-building > metadata from dpkg-architecture in debian/rules: > http://wiki.debian.org/EmdebianGuide Does Emdebian support upcoming cmake-2.6 cross-compile support or is this planned? See: h

Re: Long-term mass bug filing for crossbuild support

2007-11-10 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 10:50:51PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > AFAIK there's nothing to be fixed here. If you specify both --build and > > --host, autoconf sees this as a request for cross-compiling. Of course, > > invoking the native compiler as a cross-compiler should /generally/ give the > >

Re: Long-term mass bug filing for crossbuild support

2007-11-10 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 01:04:48PM +, Neil Williams wrote: > DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE=$(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) > DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE=$(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE) > > Depending on whether the package uses ./configure: > ifneq ($(DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE),$(DEB_BUILD_GN

Re: wxwidgets 2.8 needs help !

2007-11-10 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
> Well, I would hope that we don't need to do grunt homework for the > wxwidgets upstream. If developers are so stupid to adopt an unstable > and unusable product for their programs, it is their bad choice > not a problem of us. As long as we ship software using broken libraries it _IS_ our prob

Re: Opinions sought: mlocate appropriate for Priority: standard?

2007-11-10 Thread Andreas Metzler
Bernd Zeimetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > Why not remove locate from findutils instead of putting it into a > separate package? I can't see any reason why one would need it if > there's mlocate. Probably add a Recommends: mlocate to findutils. dlocate iirc depends on the GNU locate helper b

Re: Opinions sought: mlocate appropriate for Priority: standard?

2007-11-10 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Josh Triplett wrote: Thus, I would argue that: > > * No locate should have standard priority as long as findutils > contains locate. > * locate should move out of findutils into a separate package. > * Once that happens, if any locate should have priority standard, > mlocate should. > * Howeve

Re: wxwidgets 2.8 needs help !

2007-11-10 Thread Ron
On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 10:59:06AM +0100, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 04:03:56PM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 09, 2007, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > > > So what about that? 2.8 is around since almost 1 year, and this delay > > > is not justifiable IMHO. T

Re: Opinions sought: mlocate appropriate for Priority: standard?

2007-11-10 Thread Josh Triplett
Adeodato Simó wrote: > I'm preparing packages for mlocate, and personally I would like to > upload it with Priority: standard. But I'm open to be convinced that is > not a good idea (eg. "standard is already bloated"). > > I think having a working /usr/bin/locate is a reasonable expectation for >

Re: Opinions sougth: mlocate appropriate for Priority: standard?

2007-11-10 Thread Andreas Metzler
Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm preparing packages for mlocate, and personally I would like to > upload it with Priority: standard. But I'm open to be convinced that is > not a good idea (eg. "standard is already bloated"). > I think having a working /usr/bin/locate is a reasonable

Re: buildds: "Authentication warning overridden."

2007-11-10 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 08:54:06PM -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote: > Michael Banck wrote: > > Won't somebody else stop the attack in their place then, who does check > > the signatures? > > If a mirror is compromised, unless I'm missing something, it won't be > updated until ftp-master sends a mirr

Opinions sougth: mlocate appropriate for Priority: standard?

2007-11-10 Thread Adeodato Simó
Hello. I'm preparing packages for mlocate, and personally I would like to upload it with Priority: standard. But I'm open to be convinced that is not a good idea (eg. "standard is already bloated"). I think having a working /usr/bin/locate is a reasonable expectation for a Linux system nowadays,

Re: wxwidgets 2.8 needs help !

2007-11-10 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Sat, Nov 10, 2007 at 10:52:47AM +0100, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > future 3.0 is definitively a per-program ones, it is not > a duty of the library package. s/package/packager/ -- Francesco P. Lovergine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trou

Re: wxwidgets 2.8 needs help !

2007-11-10 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 04:03:56PM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Fri, Nov 09, 2007, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > > So what about that? 2.8 is around since almost 1 year, and this delay > > is not justifiable IMHO. There are now tons of developers and > > maintainers that need to build against 2

Re: wxwidgets 2.8 needs help !

2007-11-10 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 07:51:31PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > > > > So what about that? 2.8 is around since almost 1 year, and this delay > > is not justifiable IMHO. There are now tons of developers and > > maintainers that need to build against 2.8, and I doubt a transition > > plan from 2

Bug#450765: ITP: libjboss-aop-java -- JBoss Aspect Oriented Programming (AOP) framework

2007-11-10 Thread Varun Hiremath
Package: wnpp Owner: Varun Hiremath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Severity: wishlist * Package name: libjboss-aop-java Version : 2.0.0.beta2 Upstream Author : JBoss Inc. * URL or Web page : http://labs.jboss.com/jbossaop/ * License : LGPL Description : JBoss Aspect Oriented Pro

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