On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 00:39:05 -0400, Nathanael Nerode
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Non-free material is being included in main for the benefit of *precisely
>zero*
>users. There's no two ways about this: this is a Social Contract violation.
>I guess the Social Contract really is a joke. I don't
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 08:51:02AM +1000, Ben Finney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Felipe Sateler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Ben Finney wrote:
> > > Again, I don't see what's preventing people from using [other web
> > > browser] software if they want to.
> >
> > Maybe a significant amount
I'm not sure I can take the Debian kernel team seriously any more.
http://wiki.debian.org/KernelFirmwareLicensing states, in part:
>Debian kernel team identifies the following three types of firmware, currently
>found in the Linux kernel:
>
>1. Sourceless binary blobs with no license, no explicit
I wrote this capability almost a year ago. It's languished in bugs
#405886, #405888, #389450.
This is the ability to load from a second source of udebs (non-free, for
instance, or vendor supplied).
It's utterly straightforward and actually rather uninvasive code. As designed
it
doesn't affec
Ben Finney wrote:
> Felipe Sateler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> Ben Finney wrote:
>> > Again, I don't see what's preventing people from using [other web
>> > browser] software if they want to.
>>
>> Maybe a significant amount of sites that only work with IE
>> (unavailable on linux, at least
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 02:17:28AM +0200, Luca Capello wrote:
> Nothing changed:
> =
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ who
> luca pts/1Sep 12 01:58 (:0:S.0)
> luca pts/2Sep 12 02:03 (:0:S.1)
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ who | awk '{print $2}'|grep -q '^:[0-9]'
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$
Hello!
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 17:18:56 +0200, Evgeni Golov wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:55:00 -0500 Manoj Srivastava wrote:
>
>> Umm. I am in X, right now.
>> __> who | awk '{print $2}'|grep -q '^:[0-9]'
>> __>
>>
>> Do I need to be root?
>> __> sudo who | awk '{print $2}'|grep -
> In the last five years, surfing countless thousands of pages, I've
> encountered maybe a dozen that refused to work with an unknown
> browser. In the last two years, I can't recall *any* sites that did
> so. No doubt they exist, but IME, it's far from "a significant
> amount".
My favourite one
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 03:47:22PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>
>> Sounds like a cool idea, with a minor issue. The contents of the CDs
>> and DVDs can (and do) vary a little from arch to arch. But we could
>> easily do
>>
>> http://packages.debian.org/stable/cd1-i386/
>>
>> etc. If anybody's inte
Felipe Sateler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Ben Finney wrote:
> > Again, I don't see what's preventing people from using [other web
> > browser] software if they want to.
>
> Maybe a significant amount of sites that only work with IE
> (unavailable on linux, at least without wine) or Firefox?
I
I wanted to order but I don't know your web site can you help me? I need
meds asap
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Joerg Jaspert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11139 March 1977, Frank Küster wrote:
>
>> - Packages are buggy, even copyright files are. We should add a
>> machine-readable field that indicates that the rest of the machine-readable
>> information might not be correct or complete.
>
> Thats th
May as well add Opera to the list...
On Tue September 11 2007 11:52:36 am Anthony Towns wrote:
> nameinst vote old recent no-files
> iceweasel 41897 22448 6839 1260010
> epiphany-browser 32506 11395 7614 13493 4
> w3m
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 18:26:45 +0200
Juliusz Chroboczek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> The Firefox monoculture is doing a lot of harm to our community.
>
> > So, I don't know what "monoculture" you're referring to.
>
> Popcon gives 23000 for iceweasel, 500 for dillo, and 18 for netsurf.
> (Correc
Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
> Popcon gives 23000 for iceweasel, 500 for dillo, and 18 for netsurf.
> (Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that konqueror statistics are
> not significant since it's also used as a file manager.)
>
> If that's not a monoculture, I don't know what is.
The point is t
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 06:26:45PM +0200, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
> >> The Firefox monoculture is doing a lot of harm to our community.
> > So, I don't know what "monoculture" you're referring to.
> Popcon gives 23000 for iceweasel, 500 for dillo, and 18 for netsurf.
> (Correct me if I'm wrong, b
Ben Finney wrote:
> Juliusz Chroboczek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> The Firefox monoculture is doing a lot of harm to our community.
>
> I wasn't aware that Konqueror, Netsurf, or the many other non-Firefox
> browsers had suddenly become unavailable in our community. There
> doesn't appear to
>> The Firefox monoculture is doing a lot of harm to our community.
> So, I don't know what "monoculture" you're referring to.
Popcon gives 23000 for iceweasel, 500 for dillo, and 18 for netsurf.
(Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that konqueror statistics are
not significant since it's also
On 11139 March 1977, Frank Küster wrote:
> - Packages are buggy, even copyright files are. We should add a
> machine-readable field that indicates that the rest of the machine-readable
> information might not be correct or complete.
Thats the default mode, always.
--
bye Joerg
[Clint]: I'
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 09:55:00 -0500 Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> Umm. I am in X, right now.
> __> who | awk '{print $2}'|grep -q '^:[0-9]'
> __>
>
> Do I need to be root?
> __> sudo who | awk '{print $2}'|grep -q '^:[0-9]'
> __>
Did you check the exit-code of grep? -q is kinda quie
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 00:07:52 -0700, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> So the current thought is to use
>who | awk '{print $2}'|grep -q '^:[0-9]'
> to detect whether there are users logged in via X before restarting
> the display managers.
> Look reasonable?
Umm. I am in X
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 12:04:31AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 03:16:17PM +0200, Daniel Leidert wrote:
> >Am Freitag, den 07.09.2007, 15:06 +0200 schrieb Daniel Leidert:
> >>
> >> Ok. A few seconds later I found the
> >> http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/#search. However
> Sounds like a cool idea, with a minor issue. The contents of the CDs
> and DVDs can (and do) vary a little from arch to arch. But we could
> easily do
>
> http://packages.debian.org/stable/cd1-i386/
>
> etc. If anybody's interested, I can easily generate package lists from
> the CD contents and
The system is back up. If you have further trouble, please let us know.
Thanks.
Simon Paillard wrote:
On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 08:41:51PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
35.9.37.225, in http.us.debian.org, and ftp.us.debian.org, has been
unreachable on port 80 from all the networks I have access to
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
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* Package name: libeasymock-java
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* URL : http://www.easymock.org/
* License : MIT
Programming Lang: Java
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
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* Package name: infernal
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* URL : http://infernal.janelia.org/
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Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
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* URL : http://software.twotoasts.de/?page=midori
* License : GPL
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Mid
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 03:34:27AM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote:
> On Tue September 11 2007 01:07:52 am Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a case where this would give the wrong result?
> > I'm not sure what an xdmcp login would look like here, for instance,
> > or if startx creates a utmp e
Le mardi 11 septembre 2007 à 08:42 +, Sune Vuorela a écrit :
> The problem is in this case, as far as I know, that you might be unable
> to unlock if you lock your screen without having restarted *dm.
> (or if your screen locks automagically)
That would be, without restarting the screensaver d
On Tue September 11 2007 01:07:52 am Steve Langasek wrote:
> Does anyone know of a case where this would give the wrong result?
> I'm not sure what an xdmcp login would look like here, for instance,
> or if startx creates a utmp entry that I should be concerned about
> registering as a false posit
On 2007-09-11, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That way, the user can continue with the X session and the reload takes
> place at logout. A suitable reminder can be output to remind the user
> to actually logout - much like the kernel packages remind users to
> reboot.
The problem is in
Hi,
Sam Hocevar zoy.org> writes:
> On Sat, Aug 04, 2007, Joey Hess wrote:
[initial comment moved here to fool gmane's "you seem to be top-posting"
message]
I've come across this intersting thread only today (I was without network access
in early August). Although I haven't read everything, it
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 08:38:35AM +0100, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> Can't gdm and similar be "scheduled" for a reload instead of actually
>> forced into an immediate reload?
>
> As you pointed out, gdm *does* have a nice reloading fun
On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 08:38:35AM +0100, Neil Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 00:07:52 -0700
> Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > The problem is that some of the services that have to be restarted are
> > display managers, and restarting them will kill any
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007 00:07:52 -0700
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The problem is that some of the services that have to be restarted are
> display managers, and restarting them will kill any active X sessions. The
> question is, where should the line be drawn between trying to automa
On Tue, 2007-09-11 at 00:07 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> The problem is that some of the services that have to be restarted are
> display managers, and restarting them will kill any active X
> sessions.
Is there a fundamental reason for this or is it possible to have *dm
behave more like sshd w
This should be the last of the PAM-related threads on here for a while. :)
One of the new bits in the libpam0g package in unstable (soon to reach
testing) is that we need to restart PAM-using services because of a shlib
change. There has been some fair criticism of the code used to manage this,
s
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