Re: Bug#435058: ITP: smolt -- Fedora hardware profiler

2007-07-28 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 09:28:46PM -0400, Ricky Zhou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Ricky Zhou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > * Package name: smolt > Version : 0.9.8.3 > Upstream Author : Mike McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : h

Re: stupid dependencies on update-inetd

2007-07-28 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The rationale for samba depending on update-inetd was that samba does > *not* depend on the availability of an inet superserver; it only depends > on the availability of the update-inetd interface, in order for its > maintainer scripts to run correctly.

Re: stupid dependencies on update-inetd

2007-07-28 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 12:57:03AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > I don't know exactly how it happened, but a large number of maintainers > apparently ignored the discussions on this list and added to their > packages a dependency on update-inetd. > This is *TOTALLY WRONG* because the /usr/sbin/updat

Re: stupid dependencies on update-inetd

2007-07-28 Thread Christian Perrier
> It might be helpful if you could summarise what packages are supposed to > be doing here - this may even affect enough packages to warrant a mail > to debian-devel-announce. I don't recall ever seeing an announcement > about this and I imagine that even among those maintainers who read this > li

Re: Non-security updates between stable releases?

2007-07-28 Thread Russ Allbery
"Tim Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I knew about that, though it's not actually an official Debian > repository (to my knowledge).It is missing a few things I need, though. > I may look in to contributing over there, and it would be nice to see it > as an official part of the Debian project,

Re: Non-security updates between stable releases?

2007-07-28 Thread Tim Hull
> > > Are you aware of backports.org? I use it extensively for cherry-picking > specific packages where I need a newer version for feature reasons while > keeping the rest of the system running stable. That means there's only a > few packages I have to pay special attention to for security > vuln

Re: Non-security updates between stable releases?

2007-07-28 Thread Russ Allbery
"Tim Hull" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > That said, there is a significant issue that I see with Debian and most > distributions in general that I wanted to bring up. The issue is that > once a stable release is declared stable, that's it - there are no > updates except for security holes. This

Non-security updates between stable releases?

2007-07-28 Thread Tim Hull
Hi, I must say I hope no one takes this the wrong way or flames me because of it - I really appreciate what Debian has done, and I think you have the most stable, logically laid out, and free (as in freedom) Linux distribution out there. That said, there is a significant issue that I see with Deb

Re: stupid dependencies on update-inetd

2007-07-28 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 29, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So is anything ever valid other than openbsd-inetd | inet-superserver as a > dependency? I keep getting confused on the rules around using virtual > packages. Would rlinetd | inet-superserver be okay? Would Formally yes, but I do not think th

Bug#435058: ITP: smolt -- Fedora hardware profiler

2007-07-28 Thread Ricky Zhou
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ricky Zhou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: smolt Version : 0.9.8.3 Upstream Author : Mike McGrath <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : https://hosted.fedoraproject.org/projects/smolt/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python

Re: stupid dependencies on update-inetd

2007-07-28 Thread Russ Allbery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: > On Jul 29, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Currently, lintian allows any combination of dependencies on the >> following packages to satisfy the dependency requirement from calling >> update-inetd in maintainer scripts: >> >> update-inetd

Re: stupid dependencies on update-inetd

2007-07-28 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 29, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So what are they *supposed* to depend on, only inet-superserver? I'm Yes. Actually "openbsd-inetd | inet-superserver", since it is a virtual package. > failing to extract a clear guideline from half-remembered debian-devel > discussions (as is

Re: update-inetd don't update xinetd.conf

2007-07-28 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 24, Magnus Holmgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyway, you have proposed that all superserver packages provide their own > update-inetd implementation, which is fine and simple enough, except that > it's not clear how the configuration would be transferred when one > superserver is rep

Re: stupid dependencies on update-inetd

2007-07-28 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 12:57:03AM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > I don't know exactly how it happened, but a large number of maintainers > apparently ignored the discussions on this list and added to their > packages a dependency on update-inetd. > This is *TOTALLY WRONG* because the /usr/sbin/updat

Re: stupid dependencies on update-inetd

2007-07-28 Thread Russ Allbery
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco d'Itri) writes: > I don't know exactly how it happened, but a large number of maintainers > apparently ignored the discussions on this list and added to their > packages a dependency on update-inetd. > This is *TOTALLY WRONG* because the /usr/sbin/update-inetd interface i

stupid dependencies on update-inetd

2007-07-28 Thread Marco d'Itri
I don't know exactly how it happened, but a large number of maintainers apparently ignored the discussions on this list and added to their packages a dependency on update-inetd. This is *TOTALLY WRONG* because the /usr/sbin/update-inetd interface is guaranteed to be provided by whatever implements

Re: emacs21 removal?

2007-07-28 Thread Trent W. Buck
Tatsuya Kinoshita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> There is now emacs22 in lenny/sid. While emacs21 still exists, to >> prefer emacs22 (or emacs), I'll submit bug reports with `Severity: >> wishlist'. If emacs21 is removed, the severities will be bumped up. > > I've submited a wishlist Bug #434978

Role based menus [Was: adding desktop files to misc packages]

2007-07-28 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Frank Küster wrote: I imagine that the reason why no one responds to this suggestion is that the discussion is very focused: The friends of the complete Debian menu on the one hand, and the advocates of a "newbie friendly" desktop environment - and those newbies (I think) a

Bug#435030: ITP: pkpgcounter -- a generic Page Description Language parser

2007-07-28 Thread Kumar Appaiah
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Kumar Appaiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: pkpgcounter Version : 2.18 Upstream Author : Jérôme Alet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.pykota.com/software/pkpgcounter * License : GPL Programming Lang: Pytho

Re: Bug#435020: ITP: p54 -- Driver for Prism54 "softmac" 802.11 wireless LAN adapters

2007-07-28 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 28 Juli 2007 18:05 schrieb Sam Morris: > On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:15:50 +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > > Is that really worth it, knowing that it will probably never be in a > > stable release? There is also a p54 in wireless-dev, based on mac80211. > > Maybe you have knowledge of what's

Re: ITP: randim -- Random Image Generation using Iterated Function Systems

2007-07-28 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Sat, Jul 28, 2007 at 12:53:42PM +0200, Gürkan Sengün wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > > * Package name: randim >Version : 0.5 >Upstream Author: Adrian Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://interstitiality.net/ifs_f.html > * License : G

Re: Bug#435020: ITP: p54 -- Driver for Prism54 "softmac" 802.11 wireless LAN adapters

2007-07-28 Thread Sam Morris
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:15:50 +0200, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > Is that really worth it, knowing that it will probably never be in a > stable release? There is also a p54 in wireless-dev, based on mac80211. > Maybe you have knowledge of what's going on there? Please enlighten me. The wireless-dev tre

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-28 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 28 juillet 2007 à 04:36 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : > So, if you want to keep you menu small and non-comprehensive, > you should not be pushing for f.d.o formatting. :) But I am not pushing it. I am trying to prevent the mess that will be if that actually happens. -- .'

Re: Bug#435020: ITP: p54 -- Driver for Prism54 "softmac" 802.11 wireless LAN adapters

2007-07-28 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 28 Juli 2007 16:40 schrieb Sam Morris: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Package name: p54 > Version : 20070728-6e46e62 > Upstream Author : Jean-Baptiste Note, NetChip Technology, Inc., >

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-28 Thread Frank Küster
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le jeudi 26 juillet 2007 08:25 +0200, Frank Küster a écrit : > >> Could you give guidelines how a maintainer of an application should >> classify their app, > > Using categories described in [0] is a good start. The maintainers would > also have to agr

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-28 Thread Frank Küster
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I really wonder whether this concept of user roles are really that strange > or stupid that all posters seem to ignore this idea. (Feel free to teach > me in private to keep silent with those stupid ideas.) Personally, I think it's probably a very good

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-28 Thread Frank Küster
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le vendredi 27 juillet 2007 03:52 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : >> > In the end, the people who know whether an application should be given >> > tags that will exclude it from certain menus are the application's >> > maintainers, not the menu systems

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-28 Thread Frank Küster
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le vendredi 27 juillet 2007 à 03:52 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : >> > In the end, the people who know whether an application should be given >> > tags that will exclude it from certain menus are the application's >> > maintainers, not the menu syste

Bug#435020: ITP: p54 -- Driver for Prism54 "softmac" 802.11 wireless LAN adapters

2007-07-28 Thread Sam Morris
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package name: p54 Version : 20070728-6e46e62 Upstream Author : Jean-Baptiste Note, NetChip Technology, Inc., David Brownell, Mich

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-28 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sat, 2007-07-28 at 04:47 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:22:11 +0200, Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> As long as it is not shown, it doesn't matter, so I guess we can > >> agree on this matter. > > > No, not

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-28 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Florent Rougon [Thu, Jul 26 2007, 02:55:16PM]: > Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> >> Witness: > >> >> - usable completion in the File Open dialog -> gone > > [...] > > > Note that AFAIK, completion never disappeared from the file open dialogs. > > You just have to en

ITP: randim -- Random Image Generation using Iterated Function Systems

2007-07-28 Thread Gürkan Sengün
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: randim Version : 0.5 Upstream Author: Adrian Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://interstitiality.net/ifs_f.html * License : GNU GPL Description : Random Image Generation using Iterated Function Sy

another "just deinstall" crap: x-session-manager

2007-07-28 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Ross Burton [Thu, Jul 26 2007, 12:49:34PM]: > > I was even not > > able to get rid of this nautilus thingy at all because killing it opens > > a new one. I just renamed it and killed it to get rid of. > > If you don't use nautilus, why not remove the package? If you want to > keep t

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-28 Thread Ross Burton
On Sat, 2007-07-28 at 04:39 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > If you don't use nautilus, why not remove the package? If you want to > > keep the package installed but never use it, why not remove it from > > the session? > > Because other users of the machine might want to? Or is Gnome >

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 19:22:11 +0200, Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> As long as it is not shown, it doesn't matter, so I guess we can >> agree on this matter. > No, not at all. I have not yet seen a convincing argument for hiding > menu ent

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 14:07:16 +0200, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Le vendredi 27 juillet 2007 à 03:52 -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit : >> > In the end, the people who know whether an application should be >> > given tags that will exclude it from certain menus are the >> > applicati

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-28 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:49:34 +0100, Ross Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 13:33 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: >> I was even not able to get rid of this nautilus thingy at all because >> killing it opens a new one. I just renamed it and killed it to get >> rid of. > If you