Work-needing packages report for Jul 27, 2007

2007-07-26 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 386 (new: 7) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 80 (new: 1) Total number of packages requeste

Bug#434840: ITP: libio-compress-zlib-perl -- perl interface for manupulatin gzip and zip files

2007-07-26 Thread Damyan Ivanov
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Damyan Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libio-compress-zlib-perl Version : 2.005 Upstream Author : Paul Marquess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~pmqs/IO-Compress-Zlib-2.005/ * License : same a

Re: ITP: libcompress-base-perl -- base Class for IO::Compress modules

2007-07-26 Thread Damyan Ivanov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 retitle 434838 ITP: libio-compress-base-perl -- base Class for IO::Compress modules thanks -=| Damyan Ivanov, 27.07.2007 07:48 |=- > * Package name: libcompress-base-perl The proper name is of course libio-compress-base-perl. - -- dam

Bug#434838: ITP: libcompress-base-perl -- base Class for IO::Compress modules

2007-07-26 Thread Damyan Ivanov
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Damyan Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libcompress-base-perl Version : 2.005 Upstream Author : Paul Marquess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~pmqs/ * License : same as Perl (choose Artistic or

Bug#434826: ITP: eresi -- ERESI Reverse Engineering Software Interface

2007-07-26 Thread Andrés Roldán
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Andrés Roldán" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: eresi Version : 0.78b3 Upstream Author : The ERESI team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.eresi-project.org/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C, C++, Assembly

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Greenland wrote: > 1. The format that will be used by Debian packages to specify their menu > entry. I think the consensus in this thread is that the FDo format is > better and more flexible than the current Debian menu system format. I wouldn't argue that it's better or more flexible. It is

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Joey Hess
Frank Küster wrote: > > Window managers? > > Yes, in an appropriate category. *That* one could be a candidate for > hiding. If I'm not mistaken KDE, Gnome and friends only work with > certain window managers, so switching doesn't make sense. Window managers are already not displayed on the gnom

Re: Is Andrew Lau (netsnipe) MIA?

2007-07-26 Thread Roger Leigh
"Paul Wise" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 7/26/07, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> cinepaint probably needs removing; it's very buggy and is dead >> upstream. > > Last upstream release is 0.22-1 from June 12, 2007. Hmm, I missed that when I checked on it. I must have been looking

Re: List of (un)sponsored packages on Mentors (approximate)

2007-07-26 Thread Raphael Geissert
On 26/07/07, Kumar Appaiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 07:50:49PM +1000, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote: > > Your title= tagging has unfortunately barfed on my name, due > > to the "TBBle" in it causing the quoted string to terminate > > early. > > Well, I don't think this page i

Bug#434794: ITP: assogiate -- an editor for the GNOME file types database

2007-07-26 Thread Ken Bloom
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ken Bloom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: assogiate Version : 0.2.1 Upstream Author : Kevin Daughtridge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.kdau.com/projects/assogiate/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Des

Re: Installing Recommends by default

2007-07-26 Thread Steve Greenland
On 26-Jul-07, 02:25 (CDT), Reinhard Tartler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Still, I think local admins should have the possibility to set a local > policy on a package basis for blacklisting packages to bridge until the > package gets fixed. man apt_preferences: P < 0 preven

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Steve Greenland
On 26-Jul-07, 13:41 (CDT), Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 3. The actual contents and structure of the default menu in each WM etc. > > This is a matter of Policy and ENTIRELY orthogonal to issues 1 and 2. > > In particular, just saying

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Steve Greenland
On 26-Jul-07, 04:37 (CDT), Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have no business into changing other environments' menus. This is why > I suggested that we keep the Debian menu as it is for those who prefer > it. As people seem to want to switch to the freedesktop menu given its > super

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 3. The actual contents and structure of the default menu in each WM etc. > This is a matter of Policy and ENTIRELY orthogonal to issues 1 and 2. > In particular, just saying "we're going to use the FDo format now" does > nothing to prevent the kind of

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 04:33:17PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 26 juillet 2007 à 12:59 +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : > > You do not remove the need for some functionality by simply removing the > > functionality itself altogether, which is what I see GNOME developers do > > more of

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Frank Küster
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Meanwhile, real world people have moved to the freedesktop menu, which > despite its flaws is more flexible, more beautiful and allows a better > structure designed for each environment. Tell me, in which world do I live if its not the real world? Re

Re: List of (un)sponsored packages on Mentors (approximate)

2007-07-26 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 07:50:49PM +1000, Paul TBBle Hampson wrote: > Your title= tagging has unfortunately barfed on my name, due > to the "TBBle" in it causing the quoted string to terminate > early. Well, I don't think this page is necessary anymore, since better options to check this are avail

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 26 juillet 2007 à 12:59 +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : > You do not remove the need for some functionality by simply removing the > functionality itself altogether, which is what I see GNOME developers do > more often than other developers. This seems to be based solely on hearsay. >

Draft: empty source package (was: Re: Reasonable maximum package size ?)

2007-07-26 Thread Michael Hanke
Hi, On Tue, Jul 24, 2007 at 06:01:38PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > > I guess an evil solution to *** that doesn't cause problems with ### > > would be to create a dummy source package that Build-Depends: on the > > exact version of the package it builds, so that uploads include a > > >...<

Re: [OT] Gnome usability [Was: adding desktop files to misc packages]

2007-07-26 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 14:10 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > >> I found (at least one) counter example: I never managed to get rid > >> of the stupid nautilus behavour to open new windows. > > > > Edit -> Preferences -> Behaviour -> Always open in navigation windows > > > > If the option name isn't c

Bug#434748: ITP: qink -- Simple printer ink level monitor based on libinklevel and Qt4

2007-07-26 Thread Le_Vert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Adam Cécile (Le_Vert)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: qink Version : 0.3.1 Upstream Author : Moris Ravasio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matvey Kozhev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (current maintainer) * URL : http://code.go

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Florent Rougon
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Witness: >> >> - usable completion in the File Open dialog -> gone [...] > Note that AFAIK, completion never disappeared from the file open dialogs. > You just have to enable it with a keystroke. I know that; the shortcut is Ctrl-L. But I wrote "

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Florent Rougon
Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For your information, this was ironic. There is no compositing manager > in metacity as no one seemed interested enough in developing it. Ah, I see. Not everyone follows the development of every window manager on earth, so you couldn't really expect m

Bug#434740: ITP: btanks -- Fast 2d tank arcade game with multiplayer and split-screen modes

2007-07-26 Thread Miriam Ruiz
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: btanks Version : 0.5.4539 Upstream Author : Vladimir Menshakov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://btanks.sourceforge.net * License : GPL Programming Lang: C++ Descriptio

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 02:07:17PM +0200, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le jeudi 26 juillet 2007 à 13:35 +0200, Florent Rougon a écrit : > > > Eye candy... oh right, this must be why there are so many people > > > interested in bringing a compositing manager to metacity, rather tha

[OT] Gnome usability [Was: adding desktop files to misc packages]

2007-07-26 Thread Andreas Tille
[Sorry for beeing OT - it will be my only contribution to this thread] On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeudi 26 juillet 2007 à 13:33 +0200, Andreas Tille a écrit : I found (at least one) counter example: I never managed to get rid of the stupid nautilus behavour to open new wi

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 26 juillet 2007 à 13:35 +0200, Florent Rougon a écrit : > > Eye candy... oh right, this must be why there are so many people > > interested in bringing a compositing manager to metacity, rather than > > improving performance or rendering quality. For your information, this was ironic. The

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2007-07-26 at 13:33 +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > I found (at least one) counter example: I never managed to get rid > of the stupid nautilus behavour to open new windows. In Nautilus enable Edit -> Preferences -> Behaviour -> Always open in browser windows. > I was even not > able to ge

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 01:13:13PM +0200, Florent Rougon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> Witness: > >> - usable completion in the File Open dialog -> gone > >> - customizable keyboard shortcuts in apps[1] -> gone > > > > Both are due to g

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 26 juillet 2007 à 13:33 +0200, Andreas Tille a écrit : > I found (at least one) counter example: I never managed to get rid > of the stupid nautilus behavour to open new windows. Edit -> Preferences -> Behaviour -> Always open in navigation windows If the option name isn't clear enoug

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Florent Rougon
Hi, Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Eye candy... oh right, this must be why there are so many people > interested in bringing a compositing manager to metacity, rather than > improving performance or rendering quality. YMMV, but IMHO, I don't think compositing will much improve my

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Andreas Tille
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le jeudi 26 juillet 2007 à 10:54 +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : One thing I do not like about the GNOME usability philosophy is precisely this: catering for the novice user is great, but the GNOME usability philosophy caters for novice users *at th

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:37:33AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le jeudi 26 juillet 2007 à 10:54 +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : > > One thing I do not like about the GNOME usability philosophy is > > precisely this: catering for the novice user is great, but the GNOME > > usability philosophy

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 26 juillet 2007 à 08:25 +0200, Frank Küster a écrit : > > A window manager choice has nothing to do in an application menu, as it > > is not an application. This is a matter for a configuration tool, > > whatever form it takes. > > The Debian menu has more Categories than just application

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 06:57:54PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mercredi 25 juillet 2007 à 08:54 -0400, Marvin Renich a écrit : > > Gnome and KDE are targeted primarily at desktop users, not servers. If, > > as a desktop user, I install a graphical app on my machine, I *expect* > > to see t

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 26 juillet 2007 à 11:38 +0200, Florent Rougon a écrit : > Seems very clear to me: it has been almost a decade now since the GNOME > project tries hard to get rid of every feature that makes their software > more usable (I'm speaking here about real usability, not about > eye-candy). Eye c

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Jul 26, 2007 at 11:38:59AM +0200, Florent Rougon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > SCNR... > > Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Frank> That turns out not to be the case. If I use an app frequently, then it > Frank> goes on the toolbar. The menu is for finding infrequently used apps

Re: List of (un)sponsored packages on Mentors (approximate)

2007-07-26 Thread Paul TBBle Hampson
On Mon, Jul 23, 2007 at 06:35:06PM +0200, Bart Martens wrote: > Here's also a list of packages needing a sponsor. > http://people.debian.org/~bartm/borg/needssponsor.html Your title= tagging has unfortunately barfed on my name, due to the "TBBle" in it causing the quoted string to terminate early.

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Florent Rougon
SCNR... Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Frank> That turns out not to be the case. If I use an app frequently, then it Frank> goes on the toolbar. The menu is for finding infrequently used apps. For Frank> a lot of users, browsing the menu is how they find out what's available. Mike> IIRC

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 26 juillet 2007 à 10:54 +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : > One thing I do not like about the GNOME usability philosophy is > precisely this: catering for the novice user is great, but the GNOME > usability philosophy caters for novice users *at the expense of > experienced users*. This w

Re: adding desktop files to misc packages

2007-07-26 Thread Bruce Sass
On Thu July 26 2007 01:02:57 am Frank Küster wrote: > Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If an application is used so infrequently, it shouldn't have its > > place in a menu. > > It seems we have a very different notion of what a menu is. To me, > the reply "Exactly because it is used

Re: Bug#434651: debian-policy: New virtual package: wims-extra

2007-07-26 Thread Georges Khaznadar
Thank you Magnus for this quick reply. Just one point: I have read the paragraph about cooperating groups of packages too, and I did not figure exactly what to do. As we are to make a virtual package named wims-something, there is little chance that we are going to annoy other people, since nobod

Re: Installing Recommends by default

2007-07-26 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Jul 25, 2007 at 08:54:27PM +0200, Reinhard Tartler wrote: >> Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> >> $ apt-cache show lsb-release | grep Rec >> >> Recommends: lsb, apt >> >> $ apt-cache show lsb | grep Dep >> >> Depends: lsb-core, lsb-g