Packages looking for a good home

2007-05-19 Thread Eric Dorland
Hello, Due to a reduction of my free time and a lack of interest in some of my packages I've decided to put some up for adoption. None of them are particularly taxing and most have dormant upstreams. If no one is interested in them I may just ask for their removal. blktool #420370 Supposed to be

Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-19 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 09:43:20PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Sun, 20 May 2007 10:23:51 +0900, Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > Suggests: foo, bar, baz > > > Justify-foo: To play while the program works for you. Justify-bar: > > Here a longer discussions which > > takes

Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sun, 20 May 2007 10:23:51 +0900, Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I am quite convinced that recommended packages do not need to be > justified, but I think that the need for such a justification in the > case of suggested packages will go growing. Soon or later, the apt > frontends

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Ben Finney
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrei Popescu) writes: > On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 12:26:59AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > If you want to be off topic yet marginally related to Debian, use > > -curiosa. If it has nothing to do with Debian at all, pick from > > the multitude of fora where it would be on t

Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-19 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sat, May 19, 2007 at 09:52:44AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit : > > A field in the control file is unlikely to have enough space to > truly state the reasons (remember, the maintainer has alsready stated > that in their judgement the packages belong together for all but the > most

Bug#424844: ITP: ircservices -- Nick/channel/other services for IRC networks

2007-05-19 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Thu, 17 May 2007, Tim Retout wrote: > * Package name: ircservices > IRC Services is a system of services to be used with Internet Relay Chat > networks. It provides for definitive nickname and channel ownership, as > well as the ability to send messages ("memos") to offline users, and >

Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-19 Thread Erik Steffl
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Sat, 19 May 2007 13:17:45 +0200, Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: Am Samstag 19 Mai 2007 07:14 schrieb Manoj Srivastava: If you do not wish to educate yourself on the details, perhaps you should be heeding the directions given to you by the maintainer? Pe

splitting upstream

2007-05-19 Thread Neil Williams
The current source tarball contains code for 4 binaries. In future, upstream is likely to release three separate tarballs (possibly at different times) from the same CVS repository. One tarball matches the current source name and one of the existing binaries. The second tarball will provide the oth

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Steve McIntyre
Joey Hess wrote: > >I'm writing the listmasters because reading debian-user has become >nearly unbearable for me (one of the sadly few DDs who bothers to read >our user lists) due to volume and offensiveness/repetativeness of >offtopic posts there. I've in the past threatened to leave -user >entire

Re: update-initramfs -k all -u

2007-05-19 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 06:31:02PM +0300, Touko Korpela wrote: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > You should fix your mail system not to send quoted-printable. Urm, why? /* Steinar */ -- Homepage: http://www.sesse.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-19 Thread Felipe Sateler
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Without going into arcane details, you have been told that, in > the maintainers opinion, you should be installing debconf-utils when > you install ucf, unless yours is an unusual installation, and you know > what you are doing. True. However, lets not forget that this i

Re: Building packages twice in a row

2007-05-19 Thread paddy
On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 04:22:17PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 10:00:57AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 11:21:51AM +0200, Guus Sliepen wrote: > > > On Wed, May 16, 2007 at 11:12:56AM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote: > > > > > > Wouldn't it be b

Re: Bug#425050: initramfs-tools: Ask if we should update all initramfses

2007-05-19 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 09:26:25PM +0200, Tim Dijkstra wrote: > Come on. `useless debconf proliferation'? The question has medium > priority. I can also make it an configration option somewhere and use > that, but it was just a convenient why to get info from a user. I'd also say a debconf questi

Re: update-initramfs -k all -u

2007-05-19 Thread Touko Korpela
Tim Dijkstra wrote: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You should fix your mail system not to send quoted-printable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-19 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Saturday 19 May 2007, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Well, for non-buggy packages, what you have is an issue of > trusting the maintainers judgement. In that case, you also have to > trust that the maintainer comes up with a correct, and properly > formulated explanation in under one line

Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 18 May 2007 21:44:43 -0700, Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> It's not like it would be difficult to decide on a standard to allow >> the segment of text in README.Debian that described the optional >> dependencies (or other information

Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-19 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 19 May 2007 13:17:45 +0200, Hendrik Sattler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Am Samstag 19 Mai 2007 07:14 schrieb Manoj Srivastava: >> If you do not wish to educate yourself on the details, perhaps you >> should be heeding the directions given to you by the maintainer? > Perhaps. But first, b

Re: apt-get

2007-05-19 Thread The Fungi
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 12:32:40AM -0400, Greg Folkert wrote: [...] > aptitude [...] does everything apt-get does... [...] Well, analogies to 'apt-get source' and 'apt-get build-dep' were still missing the last time I tried, but these days I have little trouble remembering to type apt-get instead

Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-19 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 01:01:18AM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 02:08:16AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > > Now as for the need for re-classification of 'recommends' to say > > 'suggests' to trim (mega|giga)bytes from the basic install sounds like a > > neat > > idea and a w

Bug#425142: ITP: dpans2texi -- draft ANS Common Lisp specification

2007-05-19 Thread Trent Buck
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Trent Buck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: dpans2texi Version : 1.03 Upstream Author : Jesper Harder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://whome.phys.au.dk/~harder/dpans.html * License : GPL / non-Free Programming Lang:

Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 02:08:16AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote: > Now as for the need for re-classification of 'recommends' to say > 'suggests' to trim (mega|giga)bytes from the basic install sounds like a neat > idea and a way to help with that is to have the maintainer have a simple > file that expla

Re: update-initramfs -k all -u

2007-05-19 Thread Tim Dijkstra
On Sat, 19 May 2007 00:23:08 +0200 David Härdeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 04:41:41PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > >On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 09:12:15AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > > > >> Good point. Thus it looks like there is no right way [...] > > > >How about maki

Re: Reasons for recommends and suggests

2007-05-19 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Samstag 19 Mai 2007 07:14 schrieb Manoj Srivastava: > If you do not wish to educate yourself on the details, perhaps > you should be heeding the directions given to you by the maintainer? Perhaps. But first, but not all packages are actually strict about that and I do not want to blo

Bug#425111: ITP: ssaha -- Sequence Search and Alignment by Hashing Algorithm

2007-05-19 Thread Charles Plessy
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package name: ssaha Version : 3.3 Upstream Author : Anthony J. Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ssahausers/files/ssaha_v33.tar.gz License : GPL Program

Re: Group maintainance howto and role of uploaders

2007-05-19 Thread Andreas Metzler
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 18 May 2007, Julien Cristau wrote: >> I don't see how that would be easier than subscribing to the PTS for a >> package you're co-maintaining. > Well, the problem is missing documentation - at least I was not > aware of this fact. That's why my

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 12:26:59AM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > If you want to be off topic yet marginally related to Debian, use > -curiosa. If it has nothing to do with Debian at all, pick from the > multitude of fora where it would be on topic. [qoute Joey Hess] To be clear, I am not sugges

Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

2007-05-19 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sat, 19 May 2007, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 04:41:49PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > > [4] FWIW, forums.debian.net has an offtopic section that actually > > seems to be used appropriately, without bothering the technical > > discissions in other sections. > > Debian seems