Re: [help] Tix: seeking advice for #394635

2006-10-30 Thread Amaya
Piotr Ozarowski wrote: > dh_compress -X.macros Thanks, that was helpful. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it, it's not my revolution : :' :-- Emma Goldman `. `' Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux (unstable) `- www.amayita.co

Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-10-30 Thread Bruce Sass
On Mon October 30 2006 16:46, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: <...> > However, confirming each spam I have > in my mailbox vs. the web interface is time consuming and slightly > frustating when you find that the spam had no opportunity to get in > (the bug was archived) or it was already remo

Bug#396312: RFA: gnome-pilot -- A GNOME applet for management of your Palm PDA

2006-10-30 Thread Mike Markley
Package: wnpp Severity: normal As I no longer have a PalmOS PDA or a GNOME installation, I am decidedly not the person to be maintaining this package. It probably makes sense for any new maintainer of this to also take over gnome-pilot-conduits; while they're not the same sources upstream, the sam

Re: "Arch: all" package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-10-30 Thread Russ Allbery
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Interactive tests or tests requiring network access should not have to > pass in order to build a package. What about tests that only require localhost be available? I'd been puzzling over that for a bit with some of the Perl module tests. -- Russ A

Re: arches and etch

2006-10-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10/30/06 14:43, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 01:04:28PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: [snip] > Because we never had ? We have dropped support for i386, but only > a fraction of i386 had a MMU and so were able to run Linux, and this

Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-10-30 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >BTW, could it be possible to provide an alternate interface to submit spam? >(like the 'report-listspam AT lists.debian.org' we can bounce spam from the >mailing lists to) Here's a short script I use to process messages sent to [EMAIL PROTE

Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-10-30 Thread Blars Blarson
On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 10:50:51PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > Does that mean that we shouldn't report spam we see in the BTS? If I > now see spam going to a bugreport of mine, I always go and press the > "this bug log contains spam". Should I just not bother with it? The ones that are reported

Re: On including 64-bit libs in 32-bit packages (see #344104)

2006-10-30 Thread Faidon Liambotis
Matthew Garrett wrote: > Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 07:30:47PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: >>> Bear in mind that the 64-bit kernel doesn't offer all the functionality >>> that the 32-bit one does. vm86 is the most obvious thing missing. >> and it seems a

Re: On including 64-bit libs in 32-bit packages (see #344104)

2006-10-30 Thread Matthew Garrett
Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 07:30:47PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> Bear in mind that the 64-bit kernel doesn't offer all the functionality >> that the 32-bit one does. vm86 is the most obvious thing missing. > > and it seems a 64-bit kernel needs a 64-

Re: Bug#396117: ITP: cpufreq-detect -- detect CPU frequency control driver

2006-10-30 Thread Matthew Garrett
Peter Palfrader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > How come it never outputs p4_clockmod? I use that happily on several > different machines. In most workloads, p4_clockmod will have a negligable effect on power consumption and has a sufficiently high latency that it creates a noticable reduction in

Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-10-30 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 10:50:51PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > If you have an idea for a new spamassassin rule that will get a > > current spam run without triggering on non-spam, send it to > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unfortunatly, much spam is now using anti-bayes tecniques > > and is hard to catch

Re: "Arch: all" package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-10-30 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Mon, 2006-10-30 at 12:53 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > Keeping such tests in package builds is fine, but they should either be > disabled by default (enabled with an environment variable, say), or they > should be informational only. It seems to me that it should also be fine if the test runs

Re: arches and etch

2006-10-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 08:43:06PM +, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 01:04:28PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > > So why aren't we sill shipping on 286 machines? > > Because we never had ? We have dropped support for i386, but only > a fraction of i386 had a MMU and so were abl

Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-10-30 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 01:36:56PM -0800, Blars Blarson wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:02:41 -0800, Blars Blarson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >wrote: > >>We have a SA rule for this run now, but sending such hints to > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] will g

Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-10-30 Thread Blars Blarson
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:02:41 -0800, Blars Blarson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: >>We have a SA rule for this run now, but sending such hints to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] will get them seen much faster than debian-devel that I'm >>more than a week be

Re: On including 64-bit libs in 32-bit packages (see #344104)

2006-10-30 Thread Bill Allombert
On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 07:30:47PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Nikita V. Youshchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Is it possible to make 64bit kernels available? > > > > Sarge does have them and the BTS has a patch for linux-2.6 to enab

ps- sourcecode, task_struct

2006-10-30 Thread Joachim Graf
Hallo, ich muss an der Uni ein Programm schreiben das alle Prozesse auflistet welche ihr root-Verzeichnis (chroot) geändert haben. Meine Idee war ich nehme die Sourcen des ps-Kommandos und passe diese meinen Erfordernissen an. Geht aber nur falls 'ps' die task_struct benutzt und sich da durc

Re: arches and etch

2006-10-30 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 01:04:28PM +0100, Neil McGovern wrote: > > 7) Perhaps we should consider the balance between making debian just > >another glitzy quick-release plaything for mass consumption and > >minimal user contribution, and a system designed to give users who > >care and co

Re: "Arch: all" package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-10-30 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 05:36:57PM +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > If an architecture-independent binary package fails to build because the > build > target runs a test that needs network access, should that be considered > release critical, if the package requires network access to function in

Re: [help] Tix: seeking advice for #394635

2006-10-30 Thread Piotr Ozarowski
Amaya wrote: > The problem is that the macros file gets installed as: > /usr/share/man/tixman.macros.gz dh_compress -X.macros ? -- -=[ Piotr Ozarowski ]=- -=[ http://www.ozarowski.pl ]=- pgpEGnLHHyuTB.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: "Arch: all" package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-10-30 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > Some packages (e.g choose-mirror) fetch a newer version of a file during > build if it's possible to fetch that file. I don't think this is RC, > since the file is not missing from the package if the network is not > available. Actually, I think that's

Re: Bug#396117: ITP: cpufreq-detect -- detect CPU frequency control driver

2006-10-30 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Mon, 30 Oct 2006, Per Olofsson wrote: > Chris Hanson: > > Probably yes, but I'd like to see it before I decide. > > Attached. I will probably change a few things though, it should > probably by default try to load the module instead of merely > outputting it. How come it never outputs p4_cloc

Re: Question: mount /var/run as tmpfs

2006-10-30 Thread Mario 'BitKoenig' Holbe
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > mount point. For the others, edit /etc/default/rcS and set RAMRUN and > RAMLOCK to 'yes'. There are still some packages unable to cope with Hmm, is there any argument against making /etc/default/rcS a conffile or an ucf file to make sure - or at l

Re: "Arch: all" package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-10-30 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 30/10/06 at 17:36 +0200, Magnus Holmgren wrote: > If an architecture-independent binary package fails to build because the > build > target runs a test that needs network access, should that be considered > release critical, if the package requires network access to function in any > useful

Re: Bug#396117: ITP: cpufreq-detect -- detect CPU frequency control driver

2006-10-30 Thread Per Olofsson
Chris Hanson: > Probably yes, but I'd like to see it before I decide. Attached. I will probably change a few things though, it should probably by default try to load the module instead of merely outputting it. > Does this have to make it into etch? Nope. Although it would be nice, of course. --

Re: Bug#396117: ITP: cpufreq-detect -- detect CPU frequency control driver

2006-10-30 Thread Chris Hanson
Per Olofsson wrote: > Hi, > > Marco d'Itri: >> On Oct 30, Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> Why do you want to make a separate package for such a tiny shell script? >>> The overhead is just two much. >>> I'd propose to include it into the powermgmt-base package. >> I fully agree, it'

"Arch: all" package FTBFS due to test needing network access - RC?

2006-10-30 Thread Magnus Holmgren
If an architecture-independent binary package fails to build because the build target runs a test that needs network access, should that be considered release critical, if the package requires network access to function in any useful manner? Since the package is Architecture: all, no autobuildin

Re: Question: mount /var/run as tmpfs

2006-10-30 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Aleksey Midenkov] > It is possible to detect if kernel supports tmpfs and mount it on > /var/run, /var/lock, /var/tmp and maybe /tmp and may be other > places. All of these except /var/tmp/ should be possible to mount as tmpfs. To list /tmp/ as tmpfs, just update /etc/fstab to list it as a tmpfs

Re: [help] Tix: seeking advice for #394635

2006-10-30 Thread Amaya
Also lintian is screaming at me for various reasons: http://www.amayita.com/debian/1_sponsored/tix/lintian The only ones I can't fix are the $CURSE broken manpages. Or the $CURSE broken way I am trying to make them work. Thanks again for any hint. -- ·''`. If I can't dance to it,

Re: [help] Tix: seeking advice for #394635

2006-10-30 Thread Amaya
Hi Matthew, Matthew Vernon wrote: > So you've put the macros file as /usr/share/man/tixman.macros. That's > sensible. Thanks for confirming this. > Now you want the manpages to use this file? > The thing to do is to edit the man-pages to the line that says: > .so man.macros > becomes: > .so tix

Re: [help] Tix: seeking advice for #394635

2006-10-30 Thread Matthew Vernon
Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi there, fellow DDs, Debian enthusiasts and groff experts, > > I am looking at #394635. My eyes are starting to bleed. This bug is not > even RC, but it is ugly, and I would hate to ship Etch with it. > > All the man pages for this package use macros, sitting

Re: Question: mount /var/run as tmpfs

2006-10-30 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > also sprach Aleksey Midenkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.10.30.0902 +0100]: >> It is possible to detect if kernel supports tmpfs and mount it >> on /var/run, /var/lock, /var/tmp and maybe /tmp and may be other places. > > Definitely not /var/run, since

Re: Bug#396117: ITP: cpufreq-detect -- detect CPU frequency control driver

2006-10-30 Thread Per Olofsson
Hi, Marco d'Itri: > On Oct 30, Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Why do you want to make a separate package for such a tiny shell script? > > The overhead is just two much. > > I'd propose to include it into the powermgmt-base package. > I fully agree, it's silly to create a package

Re: Bug#396117: ITP: cpufreq-detect -- detect CPU frequency control driver

2006-10-30 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 30, Michael Biebl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why do you want to make a separate package for such a tiny shell script? > The overhead is just two much. > I'd propose to include it into the powermgmt-base package. I fully agree, it's silly to create a package for a 2 KB shell script. -- c

[help] Tix: seeking advice for #394635

2006-10-30 Thread Amaya
Hi there, fellow DDs, Debian enthusiasts and groff experts, I am looking at #394635. My eyes are starting to bleed. This bug is not even RC, but it is ugly, and I would hate to ship Etch with it. All the man pages for this package use macros, sitting in a file called man.macros. I have no idea wh

Re: Lots of (easily recognisible) spam sent to the BTS today

2006-10-30 Thread Marc Haber
On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:02:41 -0800, Blars Blarson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >>I'm not sure if anybody else is seeing this but I have seen (just today) 28 >>spam messages sent to the BTS. I've received them because they were all sent >>to (a

Re: Question: mount /var/run as tmpfs

2006-10-30 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, Am Mo den 30. Okt 2006 um 9:02 schrieb Aleksey Midenkov: > It is possible to detect if kernel supports tmpfs and mount it > on /var/run, /var/lock, /var/tmp and maybe /tmp and may be other places. This Sounds interesting. Well, there is som

Re: Question: mount /var/run as tmpfs

2006-10-30 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 30 octobre 2006 à 09:41 +0100, martin f krafft a écrit : > also sprach Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.10.30.0933 +0100]: > > /var/run is problematic because its subdirectories are expected to > > survive across reboots. > > http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/20060917.0

Re: Bug#396153: ITP: howl-xml -- Multicast DNS publishing utilities

2006-10-30 Thread Sjoerd Simons
On Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 11:33:39PM -0600, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: "Jaldhar H. Vyas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * Package name: howl-xml > Version : 0.1.0 > Upstream Author : Porchdog Software/Linspire Inc. > * URL : http://apt.f

Re: Question: mount /var/run as tmpfs

2006-10-30 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.10.30.0933 +0100]: > /var/run is problematic because its subdirectories are expected to > survive across reboots. http://people.debian.org/~terpstra/message/20060917.012252.259a8f74.en.html I disagree, but anyway: this discussion has already

Re: Question: mount /var/run as tmpfs

2006-10-30 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 30 octobre 2006 à 15:02 +0700, Aleksey Midenkov a écrit : > Hello all the Debian Community! > > It is possible to detect if kernel supports tmpfs and mount it > on /var/run, /var/lock, /var/tmp and maybe /tmp and may be other places. This > can be made in one of the appropriate debian p

Re: Question: mount /var/run as tmpfs

2006-10-30 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Aleksey Midenkov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.10.30.0902 +0100]: > It is possible to detect if kernel supports tmpfs and mount it > on /var/run, /var/lock, /var/tmp and maybe /tmp and may be other places. Definitely not /var/run, since its contents can survive reboots. /var/run works fin

Question: mount /var/run as tmpfs

2006-10-30 Thread Aleksey Midenkov
Hello all the Debian Community! It is possible to detect if kernel supports tmpfs and mount it on /var/run, /var/lock, /var/tmp and maybe /tmp and may be other places. This can be made in one of the appropriate debian packages and made configurable through debconf. The package to fit this, I th