Dual licensing [Was: Re: cdrtools]

2006-07-07 Thread Don Armstrong
We've stepped into -legal territory now. MFT set to send messages only to -legal; please respond there only. On Sat, 08 Jul 2006, George Danchev wrote: > Well, I have the following 'and' vs. 'or' type of licensing > question. While it is clear now that Debian can not distribute a > product when so

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-07 Thread George Danchev
On Saturday 08 July 2006 06:15, Don Armstrong wrote: > NB: Please follow Debian list policy and refrain from Cc:'ing me. > > On Fri, 07 Jul 2006, Erast Benson wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 08:39 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > On Fri, 07 Jul 2006, Erast Benson wrote: > > > > what? you think if

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-07 Thread Erast Benson
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 20:15 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > NB: Please follow Debian list policy and refrain from Cc:'ing me. > > On Fri, 07 Jul 2006, Erast Benson wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 08:39 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > On Fri, 07 Jul 2006, Erast Benson wrote: > > > > what? you thin

Re: Debian Bug Tracking System

2006-07-07 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 08:19:12PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: >On Fri, 07 Jul 2006, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote: >> What about something like ``To subscribe to this bug, send an empty >> email to $email.'' to make more explicit that they >> don't need to fill anything out? > >There are a whole host

Re: Debian Bug Tracking System

2006-07-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 07 Jul 2006, Matthew R. Dempsky wrote: > On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 10:48:55AM +1000, Brendan O'Dea wrote: > > This may be a simple way to add that behaviour. > > > +print "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Subscribe to this > > bug. > > What about something like ``To subscribe to this bug, send an

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-07 Thread Don Armstrong
NB: Please follow Debian list policy and refrain from Cc:'ing me. On Fri, 07 Jul 2006, Erast Benson wrote: > On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 08:39 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > On Fri, 07 Jul 2006, Erast Benson wrote: > > > what? you think if it is non-GPL than it should go to non-free? > > > This is nons

Re: Debian Bug Tracking System

2006-07-07 Thread Matthew R. Dempsky
On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 10:48:55AM +1000, Brendan O'Dea wrote: > This may be a simple way to add that behaviour. > +print "mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Subscribe to this bug. What about something like ``To subscribe to this bug, send an empty email to $email.'' to make more explicit that they don'

Re: A question on setting setuid bit

2006-07-07 Thread LEE, Yui-wah (Clement)
Hi, Thanks for articulating the risk. We will address it later. The machines involved are experimental prototypes not production machines. Clement On Fri, 7 Jul 2006, Javier [iso-8859-1] Fern嫕dez-Sanguino Pe鎙 wrote: > On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 04:42:47PM -0400, LEE, Yui-wah (Clement) wrote: > >

Marcelo Magallon (lib3ds maintainer) MIA?

2006-07-07 Thread Miles Bader
Hi, Does anybody know if the lib3ds maintainer, Marcelo Magallon (email mmagallo), is still active? lib3ds seems to have gone untended for quite a while -- there are some very old bugs open which even have patches posted. I sent him email about a week about, but have not gotten a reply yet. I a

Re: Debian Bug Tracking System

2006-07-07 Thread Brendan O'Dea
Package: debbugs Version: 2.4.1 Severity: wishlist Tags: patch On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 01:02:44AM +0530, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: >If I need to subscribe to a bug I can't use the web interface. >The answer you might give is, "Oh! Send am email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED]" This may be a simple way to ad

Re: xmgrace ddd again

2006-07-07 Thread Roger Leigh
Art Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Neither xmgrace nor ddd will allow text input for AMD-64 > architecture. This is a severe problem. I'm writing to the > developers list because their common problem probably means there > is, perhaps, a library issue. I shouild point out that I have buil

xmgrace ddd again

2006-07-07 Thread Art Edwards
Neither xmgrace nor ddd will allow text input for AMD-64 architecture. This is a severe problem. I'm writing to the developers list because their common problem probably means there is, perhaps, a library issue. I shouild point out that I have built from sources and have exactly the same problem. F

Re: Debian Bug Tracking System

2006-07-07 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jul 07, Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not trying to start a flame war but can somebody give a convincing explanation > as to why don't we have a standard BTS ? Because no such a thing exists, for a start. HTH. -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: A question on setting setuid bit

2006-07-07 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 04:42:47PM -0400, LEE, Yui-wah (Clement) wrote: > Hi, > > This is an experimental package that we built and > evaluate internally (up to this moment). The program > that needs setuid is a cgi-bin program that is invoked > by apache2, which runs as a regular user www-data.

Re: A question on setting setuid bit

2006-07-07 Thread LEE, Yui-wah (Clement)
Hi, This is an experimental package that we built and evaluate internally (up to this moment). The program that needs setuid is a cgi-bin program that is invoked by apache2, which runs as a regular user www-data. The cgi-bin program however needs to interact with iptables. I know setuid program

Re: Debian Bug Tracking System

2006-07-07 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Sat, Jul 08, 2006 at 01:02:44AM +0530, Ritesh Raj Sarraf wrote: > Not trying to start a flame war but can somebody give a convincing explanation > as to why don't we have a standard BTS ? There is a whole host of reasons. Some I can think of offhand: - All other known alternatives have a numb

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-07-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 02:46:15PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > The point of the helper is to remove the decision from the package > alone to a central place that is easily configurable for a wide range > of cases. Ok, here goes my stab at the helper: (attached) Usage: $(MAKE) -j`debian

Re: Debian Bug Tracking System

2006-07-07 Thread Frank Küster
Ritesh Raj Sarraf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Not trying to start a flame war but can somebody give a convincing explanation > as to why don't we have a standard BTS ? I guess most "standard BTSses" can't be easily manipulated by E-Mail, while ours can. > If I need to subscribe to a bug

Re: Debian Bug Tracking System

2006-07-07 Thread Lars Wirzenius
la, 2006-07-08 kello 01:02 +0530, Ritesh Raj Sarraf kirjoitti: > If I need to subscribe to a bug I can't use the web interface. > The answer you might give is, "Oh! Send am email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED]" > > Can't we have an interface to allow subscribing to a bug through the web > interface just l

Debian Bug Tracking System

2006-07-07 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
Hi, Not trying to start a flame war but can somebody give a convincing explanation as to why don't we have a standard BTS ? If I need to subscribe to a bug I can't use the web interface. The answer you might give is, "Oh! Send am email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]" Can't we have an interface to allow su

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-07 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 07 July 2006 18:09, Erast Benson wrote: --cut-- > > * dvdrtools, a fork of the last GPLed version, is in non-free > > dvdrtools - totally useless effort. Besides, its known to be buggy and Could you please report issues you face with dvdrtools to the BTS, so that can be resolved if foun

Tarifas telefónica

2006-07-07 Thread Monica
Estimado/a Nos dirigimos Ud. a fin de solicitare permiso para enviarle información sobre telefonía IP. Destacamos *Ahorro promedio de 68% en llamadas de media y larga distancia a cualquier número de telefono fijo. * Un número local en las principales ciudades del mundo o de ciudades del in

Re: A question on setting setuid bit

2006-07-07 Thread Ian Jackson
LEE, Yui-wah (Clement) writes ("A question on setting setuid bit"): > I am building a package in which one of the binary has > to have the setuid and setgid bits set. I wonder which > one of the following two is the more appropriate method > to use? Forgive my scepticism, but which package, and w

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-07 Thread Erast Benson
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 19:25 +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > pe, 2006-07-07 kello 08:52 -0700, Erast Benson kirjoitti: > > On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 08:39 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > No. The primary issue is that the mixture of a GPL+CDDL work creates a > > > work that cannot be distributed by anyo

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-07-07 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 07 July 2006 19:06, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 03:34:59PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > Err, AIUI, ruby gems are a way to automatically install extras to a > > running ruby environment, much in the same way that the CPAN module is > > used for Perl. > > > > I fail

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-07 Thread Martin Wuertele
* Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-07 17:54]: > On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 08:39 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > No. The primary issue is that the mixture of a GPL+CDDL work creates a > > work that cannot be distributed by anyone else but the copyright > > holder. > > It seems to be an offtop

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-07 Thread Lars Wirzenius
pe, 2006-07-07 kello 08:52 -0700, Erast Benson kirjoitti: > On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 08:39 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > > No. The primary issue is that the mixture of a GPL+CDDL work creates a > > work that cannot be distributed by anyone else but the copyright > > holder. > > It seems to be an offt

ITP: strigi -- fast indexing and searching tool for your personal data

2006-07-07 Thread Fathi Boudra
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Fathi Boudra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: strigi Version : 0.3.2 Upstream Author : Jos van den Oever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.vandenoever.info/software/strigi * License : LGPL Description: fast index

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-07-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 03:34:59PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > Err, AIUI, ruby gems are a way to automatically install extras to a > running ruby environment, much in the same way that the CPAN module is > used for Perl. > > I fail to see why this would be "completely useless" on smaller > arc

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-07 Thread Erast Benson
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 08:39 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Fri, 07 Jul 2006, Erast Benson wrote: > > On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 10:38 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > > I completely fail to see any logic here: > > > * cdrtools, obviously completely non-free, is in main > > > > what? you think if it is

Bug#377239: ITP: usb8338 -- Driver and supporting software for the Marvel USB 8338 Wireless NIC

2006-07-07 Thread Mike O'Connor
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Mike O'Connor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: usb8338 Version : 318.p7 Upstream Author : Marvell International Ltd. * URL : http://marvell.com/drivers * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : Driver

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 07 Jul 2006, Erast Benson wrote: > On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 10:38 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > I completely fail to see any logic here: > > * cdrtools, obviously completely non-free, is in main > > what? you think if it is non-GPL than it should go to non-free? This > is nonsense. No. The

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-07 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 08:09:43AM -0700, Erast Benson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 10:38 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 08:57:54AM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: > > > Kevin Bube wrote: > > > > What about switching to dvdrtools? I think this project wa

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-07-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 02:28:49PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > Updating with pdiffs took one minute nine seconds while downloading a > completely new set of list files took eight seconds. > > Test environment was quite unfair though (an old machine with an 1200 > MHz CPU and a single, slow disk on

Re: Bug#377220: ITP: liblingua-de-ascii -- convert german umlauts to and from ascii

2006-07-07 Thread Sebastian Harl
> > * Package name: liblingua-de-ascii > > Version : 0.11 > > Upstream Author : Janek Schleicher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > * URL : http://cpan.org/modules/by-module/Lingua/ > > * License : GPL / Artistic > > Description : convert german umlauts to and from as

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-07 Thread Erast Benson
On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 10:38 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 08:57:54AM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: > > Kevin Bube wrote: > > > What about switching to dvdrtools? I think this project was > > > started to solve the frequently recurring arguments about the > > > licensing and t

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-07 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Kevin Bube [Fri, Jul 07 2006, 11:29:21AM]: > Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > * Adam Borowski [Fri, Jul 07 2006, 10:38:32AM]: > > >> * dvdrtools, a fork of the last GPLed version, is in non-free > > > > Please look at dvdrtools' files, eg. cdrecord.c before claiming that. >

Re: Bug#377220: ITP: liblingua-de-ascii -- convert german umlauts to and from ascii

2006-07-07 Thread Rafael Laboissiere
* Sebastian Harl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-07-07 15:00]: > * Package name: liblingua-de-ascii > Version : 0.11 > Upstream Author : Janek Schleicher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://cpan.org/modules/by-module/Lingua/ > * License : GPL / Artistic > Descripti

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-07-07 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On 7/7/06, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What code do you need there? If the rred method keeps the full Index file in memory during patching it can just be fed all the patches one after another and only write out the final result at the end. Combining the patches is a simple cat

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-07-07 Thread George Danchev
On Friday 07 July 2006 15:36, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > * Marc Haber: > >> The machine in Question is a P3 with 1200 MHz. What's making the > >> process slow is the turnaround time for the http requests, as observed > >> multiple times in this thre

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-07-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 11:58:28PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Wed, Jul 05, 2006 at 08:23:00PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 03, 2006 at 03:04:14PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > > On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 11:57:50AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > > Additionally, it puzzle

Bug#377220: ITP: liblingua-de-ascii -- convert german umlauts to and from ascii

2006-07-07 Thread Sebastian Harl
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sebastian Harl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: liblingua-de-ascii Version : 0.11 Upstream Author : Janek Schleicher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://cpan.org/modules/by-module/Lingua/ * License : GPL / Artistic De

Re: FTWCA Policy Section 7.6 (Build-Depends/Build-Depends-Indep)

2006-07-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi > > If this is the case, then I think lintian should be updated to tell > people this. It is in fact lintian that have made me do this kind > of change for all the Arch: all packages that I maintain. > > Please CC me as I'm not on this list anymore i

Re: doc compilations: build-time or pre-built?

2006-07-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Hi. > > My dillema: > > 1) compile docs pre-build-time; or > 2) compile docs in build-time > > > Pros of 1: < build-time and < Build-Depends Cons: - Docs that can be unbuildable or out of sync with the source. - Binary files in the diff.gz (have fun with that one) ei

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-07-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adam Borowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Jul 02, 2006 at 11:57:50AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: >> Additionally, it puzzles me how you think a maintainer will be able to >> accurately predict how much RAM a certain build is going to use. There >> are so many variables, that I think an

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-07-07 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Marc Haber: > >> The machine in Question is a P3 with 1200 MHz. What's making the >> process slow is the turnaround time for the http requests, as observed >> multiple times in this thread alone. > > Then your setup is very broken. APT performs HTTP

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-07-07 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Yes, I have. Test was done in a sid chroot that hasn't been updated > for like two weeks. ... > Updating with pdiffs took one minute nine seconds while downloading a > completely new set of list files took eight seconds. > > Test environment was quite unfair th

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-07-07 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:10:37 +0200, Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I have doubts, have you measured the real difference? Yes, I have. Test was done in a sid chroot that hasn't been updated for like two weeks. |$ time sudo aptitude update |Reading package lists... Done |Building dependen

Bug#377211: ITP: unreal-ircd -- Full featured irc server

2006-07-07 Thread Iñaki Rodríguez
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Iñaki Rodríguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: unreal-ircd Version : 3.2.5 Upstream Author : Stskeeps ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), codemastr ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), Syzop ([EMAIL PROTECTED]),

Re: header sanity check?

2006-07-07 Thread Craig Small
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 09:05:28PM -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > So it's really easy to package a -dev package with a header file, that > #include's a header file in a package that it doesn't depend on. Yes it is, it's a compile time problem of someones program. > to catch this or if there are a

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-07 Thread Kevin Bube
Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Adam Borowski [Fri, Jul 07 2006, 10:38:32AM]: >> * dvdrtools, a fork of the last GPLed version, is in non-free > > Please look at dvdrtools' files, eg. cdrecord.c before claiming that. What is wrong with that? The blurb [1] seems quite okay (i.e. GPL)

Re: failure notice

2006-07-07 Thread Junichi Uekawa
If people don't want to read mail from me, don't ask me to do something to you. At 6 Jul 2006 22:53:27 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi. This is the qmail-send program at viper2.netfort.gr.jp. > I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. > This is a perman

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-07 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Adam Borowski [Fri, Jul 07 2006, 10:38:32AM]: > * dvdrtools, a fork of the last GPLed version, is in non-free Please look at dvdrtools' files, eg. cdrecord.c before claiming that. > And of course, this particular case is already in good hands. What I > am interested in is whether GP

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jul 07, 2006 at 08:57:54AM +0200, Daniel Baumann wrote: > Kevin Bube wrote: > > What about switching to dvdrtools? I think this project was > > started to solve the frequently recurring arguments about the > > licensing and the device adressing scheme cdrtools use. > > dvdrtools are curren

Re: Poor quality of multipath-tools

2006-07-07 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 08:07:16AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 02:39:16PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: > > Not always true. Both paths can be active at the same time.. if supported by > > the SAN array. Then you do also load balancing between the paths.. > > Quite true, t

Re: cdrtools

2006-07-07 Thread Daniel Baumann
Kevin Bube wrote: > What about switching to dvdrtools [1]? I think this project was started > to solve the frequently recurring arguments about the licensing and the > device adressing scheme cdrtools use. This was also considered as an option[0]. However, this is not the place and not the right p