Re: Reclaiming automake

2006-06-30 Thread Eric Dorland
* James Westby ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On (29/06/06 19:37), Eric Dorland wrote: > > * Scott James Remnant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 19:11 -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: > > > > > > > Scott James Remnant dropped me an email recently, interested in > > > > improving the

Re: Reclaiming automake

2006-06-30 Thread Eric Dorland
* Scott James Remnant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 19:37 -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: > > > * Scott James Remnant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 19:11 -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: > > > > > > > Scott James Remnant dropped me an email recently, interested

Re: Dropping indirect dependencies from libgnutls-config --libs

2006-06-30 Thread Vincent Ho
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 03:42:12PM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > It is also used to compile contrib modules that are included in the > distribution. If you started using pkg-config you'd have introduced a > build dependancy on a GPL'd program in a BSD licenced package, not > exactly a goo

Re: Debian mactel linux support?

2006-06-30 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > > Your bug is meant to be already fixed (#355252), but I see there are > > some deviations between Debian and Ubuntu (which you seem to > > maintain), I'm suspecting there might be problems with Debian code > > which is only updated about 3 months ago. > > Ok, that's a possibility - there w

Re: Dropping indirect dependencies from libgnutls-config --libs

2006-06-30 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Andreas Metzler said: > Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > [making foo-config a wrapper around pkg-config] > > > If you started using pkg-config you'd have introduced a > > build dependancy on a GPL'd program in a BSD licenced package, not > > exactly a good idea. > [...]

Bug#376215: ITP: octave2.9-forge -- Contributed functions for GNU Octave from http://octave.sf.net for Octave 2.9

2006-06-30 Thread Thomas Weber
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: octave2.9-forge Version : 2006.03.17 Upstream Author : Paul Kienzle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://octave.sourceforge.net/ * License : Various (GPL, Public Domain) Pr

Bug#376214: ITP: octave2.1-forge -- Contributed functions for GNU Octave from http://octave.sf.net for Octave 2.1

2006-06-30 Thread Thomas Weber
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Thomas Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: octave2.1-forge Version : 2006.03.17 Upstream Author : Paul Kienzle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://octave.sourceforge.net/ * License : Various (GPL, Public Domain) Pr

Bug#376187: ITP: isomd5sum -- ISO/block-level checksum utilities

2006-06-30 Thread Ryan Finnie
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ryan Finnie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: isomd5sum Version : 11.1.0.50 Upstream Author : Jeremy Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://fedora.redhat.com/projects/anaconda-installer/ * License : GPL Programming L

Re: Dropping indirect dependencies from libgnutls-config --libs

2006-06-30 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 03:42:12PM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > It is also used to compile contrib modules that are included in the > distribution. If you started using pkg-config you'd have introduced a > build dependancy on a GPL'd program in a BSD licenced package, not > exactly a goo

Re: Reclaiming automake

2006-06-30 Thread James Westby
On (29/06/06 19:37), Eric Dorland wrote: > * Scott James Remnant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 19:11 -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: > > > > > Scott James Remnant dropped me an email recently, interested in > > > improving the automake situation in Ubuntu and Debian[0]. > > > >

Re: Dropping indirect dependencies from libgnutls-config --libs

2006-06-30 Thread Andreas Metzler
Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: [making foo-config a wrapper around pkg-config] > If you started using pkg-config you'd have introduced a > build dependancy on a GPL'd program in a BSD licenced package, not > exactly a good idea. [...] That is something I hadn't thought about, gnutls is LGPL. Thank

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-06-30 Thread Florian Weimer
* Mike Hommey: >> The fix is to combine the diffs before applying them, so that you only >> need one process the large Packages file once. I happen to have ML >> code which does this (including the conversion to a patch >> representation which is more amenable to this kind of optimization) >> and

Re: Booting - new idea?

2006-06-30 Thread Tim Dijkstra
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:25:39 -0300 "Gustavo Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/30/06, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 11:54:42AM +0200, Tim Dijkstra > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:14:07 -0300 > > > "Gustavo Franco" <[EMAIL PROT

Re: code cpustat.c

2006-06-30 Thread Tim Dijkstra
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:41:05 +0300 (EEST) "Ozgur Karatas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > i want to help as much as i can. i dont know very much but i want to > help debian evolve and improve myself at the same time. i am coding > small applications for this purpose. they could help some. Y

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-06-30 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 06:29:40PM +0200, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Marc Haber: > > > The machine in Question is a P3 with 1200 MHz. What's making the > > process slow is the turnaround time for the http requests, as observed > > multiple times in this thread alone. > > Then

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-06-30 Thread Florian Weimer
* Marc Haber: > The machine in Question is a P3 with 1200 MHz. What's making the > process slow is the turnaround time for the http requests, as observed > multiple times in this thread alone. Then your setup is very broken. APT performs HTTP pipelining. On my machines, I see the behavior Miles

Re: Booting - new idea?

2006-06-30 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 01:25:39PM -0300, Gustavo Franco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/30/06, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 11:54:42AM +0200, Tim Dijkstra > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:14:07 -0300 > >> "Gustavo Franco" <[EMAIL PR

Re: Booting - new idea?

2006-06-30 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/30/06, Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 11:54:42AM +0200, Tim Dijkstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:14:07 -0300 > "Gustavo Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 6/29/06, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Software

Re: Booting - new idea?

2006-06-30 Thread Mike Hommey
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 11:54:42AM +0200, Tim Dijkstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:14:07 -0300 > "Gustavo Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 6/29/06, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Software suspend which exists in kernel for several years? >

Re: Bug#374968: ITP: castpodder -- Multithreaded GUI Podcast Receiver

2006-06-30 Thread John Goerzen
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 03:15:03PM +0200, Hilko Bengen wrote: > John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > CastPodder is a fork and enhancement of the popular iPodder > > podcast receiver. > > I already packaged and uploaded castpodder. However, it was rejected > because copyright statement

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-06-30 Thread Jeremy Stanley
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 12:12:10PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > Oh, so you mean checking the _free_ RAM instead of the _physical_ RAM? > This would be reasonable -- I didn't use this in the debian/rules > snippet I proposed as the physical memory is a trivially discernable > number while free RAM

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-06-30 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 04:55:58PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > You know that you can easily turn off this feature by adjusting apt.conf: Sure, and I've done so for several of my machines now. Actually, for many enough machines that it's becoming bothersome... /* Steinar */ -- Homepage: http:/

Re: Using the SSL snakeoil certificate

2006-06-30 Thread James Westby
On (30/06/06 10:51), Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > Following up to myself with a proper subject line. > > In bug #376146, Martin Pitt wrote: > > > In an effort to clean up the SSL certificate mess on Ubuntu servers, we > > recently converted all our supported Server packages to make use of > > the ssl

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-06-30 Thread Martin Schulze
Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 08:35:41PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote: > > Not really. pdiff's mainly reduce download size for low bandwidth > > connections. file:// is pretty high bandwidth, you won't notice the > > difference. > > I usually notice the difference -- the ot

Using the SSL snakeoil certificate

2006-06-30 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
Following up to myself with a proper subject line. In bug #376146, Martin Pitt wrote: In an effort to clean up the SSL certificate mess on Ubuntu servers, we recently converted all our supported Server packages to make use of the ssl-cert package instead of creating a package-specific self-

Unidentified subject!

2006-06-30 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
In bug #376146, Martin Pitt wrote: In an effort to clean up the SSL certificate mess on Ubuntu servers, we recently converted all our supported Server packages to make use of the ssl-cert package instead of creating a package-specific self-signed SSL certificate. This allows admins to easily rep

cdrtools

2006-06-30 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
Hi all, are there any activities on that project? There is no mailinglist active at https://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-cdrtools/ and the latest cvs-entry is about 3 months ago or so. Meanwhile we have ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/alpha/cdrtools-2.01.01a10.tar.gz # apt-cache policy cdrec

Re: code cpustat.c

2006-06-30 Thread Cesare Tensi
Or uptime(1)CesareOn 6/30/06, Sebastian Harl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ps and top command gives the ram state. i am doing this to see cpu's load> and usage.As far as I can see it, you're reading the exact same information as top(1)...

Re: News from the python policy transition

2006-06-30 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/29/06, Sam Morris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:25:17 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Le mer 28 juin 2006 23:20, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : >> So you don't have any excuse to not update your packages any more. >> About 60% of the Python modules have already been updated,

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-06-30 Thread Andreas Barth
* Marc Haber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060630 10:58]: > On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:44:30 +0200, Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >Your guess is correct, see #372504. "This is currently a UI problem. > >It displays the line three times, but it only downloads it in the > >first. The other two

Re: code cpustat.c

2006-06-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ozgur Karatas wrote: > Re, > ps and top command gives the ram state. i am doing this to see cpu's load > and usage. > regards. But top(1) also does that, no? Or is the difference that it is a "running total", like ping? Still, this app is so small t

Re: code cpustat.c

2006-06-30 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 04:18:58PM +0300, Ozgur Karatas wrote: > ps and top command gives the ram state. i am doing this to see cpu's load > and usage. top reports these. For example: | Tasks: 112 total, 2 running, 109 sleeping, 1 stopped, 0 zombie | Cpu(s): 0.0% us, 0.0% sy, 0.0% ni,

Re: Booting - new idea?

2006-06-30 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 6/30/06, Tim Dijkstra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:14:07 -0300 "Gustavo Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/29/06, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Software suspend which exists in kernel for several years? > > > > > > And works properly in Debian

Re: code cpustat.c

2006-06-30 Thread Sebastian Harl
> ps and top command gives the ram state. i am doing this to see cpu's load > and usage. As far as I can see it, you're reading the exact same information as top(1)... -- Sebastian "tokkee" Harl GnuPG-ID: 0x8501C7FC http://tokkee.org/ signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Dropping indirect dependencies from libgnutls-config --libs

2006-06-30 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On 6/30/06, Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | 4. Custom config tools can often provide more info than available in | pkg-config (plugin or config directories). Like: : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ > pkg-config --variable=system_bus_default_address dbus-1 unix:path=/var/run/dbus/system_bus_soc

Re: code cpustat.c

2006-06-30 Thread Ozgur Karatas
Hello, i want to help as much as i can. i dont know very much but i want to help debian evolve and improve myself at the same time. i am coding small applications for this purpose. they could help some. > On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:18:58 +0300 (EEST) > "Ozgur Karatas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> R

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-06-30 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:10:37 +0200, Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >* Marc Haber [Fri, Jun 30 2006, 08:00:57AM]: >> file:// URLs are not the only issue here - aptitude update is also >> much slower than before on a hosted box which has 100 Mbit/s >> connectivity and could load the Packages

Re: code cpustat.c

2006-06-30 Thread Tim Dijkstra
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:18:58 +0300 (EEST) "Ozgur Karatas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Re, > ps and top command gives the ram state. i am doing this to see cpu's > load and usage. huh? My top shows (admittedly not on my desktop machine;) shows: 15:31:22 up 50 days, 2:41, 2 users, load ave

Re: Bug#374968: ITP: castpodder -- Multithreaded GUI Podcast Receiver

2006-06-30 Thread Hilko Bengen
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > CastPodder is a fork and enhancement of the popular iPodder > podcast receiver. I already packaged and uploaded castpodder. However, it was rejected because copyright statement and licenses to files in the contrib/ directory were missing. If you manag

Re: code cpustat.c

2006-06-30 Thread Ozgur Karatas
Re, ps and top command gives the ram state. i am doing this to see cpu's load and usage. regards. > top(1) gives the exact same information. What's the advantage of your > program? > > Cheers, > Sebastian > > -- > Sebastian "tokkee" Harl > GnuPG-ID: 0x8501C7FC > http://tokkee.org/ ,''`. Ozgur

Re: code cpustat.c

2006-06-30 Thread Sebastian Harl
> This code is written to > take CPU loading statistics. cpustat; shows the usage load statistic of > your CPU. top(1) gives the exact same information. What's the advantage of your program? Cheers, Sebastian -- Sebastian "tokkee" Harl GnuPG-ID: 0x8501C7FC http://tokkee.org/ signature.asc De

code cpustat.c

2006-06-30 Thread Ozgur Karatas
Hello, I have written a program which gives CPU statistics, then what should i do for putting this program in to the debian? This code is written to take CPU loading statistics. cpustat; shows the usage load statistic of your CPU. I Code tested for Intel Processors. After then code will be ported f

Re: Reclaiming automake

2006-06-30 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Thu, 2006-06-29 at 19:37 -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: > * Scott James Remnant ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 19:11 -0400, Eric Dorland wrote: > > > > > Scott James Remnant dropped me an email recently, interested in > > > improving the automake situation in Ubuntu and Debia

Re: Debian mactel linux support?

2006-06-30 Thread Matthew Garrett
Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your bug is meant to be already fixed (#355252), but I see there are > some deviations between Debian and Ubuntu (which you seem to > maintain), I'm suspecting there might be problems with Debian code > which is only updated about 3 months ago. Ok, that

Re: new tar behavior and --wildcards

2006-06-30 Thread Guido Guenther
On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 10:36:20AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 07:02:15AM +0200, Christian Perrier wrote: > > > Debian still has to provide an upgrade path for users upgrading from > > > Sarge. > > > We cannot blindly break users scripts. > > > > Here, the only way seem

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-06-30 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 08:41:33AM +0200, Ingo Juergensmann wrote: > On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 03:22:48AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > The same can't be said for upstream makefiles though. Many sources > > don't build with -j option. Right, that's just what I said :p It's the upstream and

Re: make -j in Debian packages

2006-06-30 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 03:26:15AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Adam Borowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Still, the buildd admin has no way to estimate how much a sub-process > > of a package is going to use, the maintainer has at least a rough > > idea. Since the maintainer's action

Re: Dropping indirect dependencies from libgnutls-config --libs

2006-06-30 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* "Martijn van Oosterhout" | On 6/30/06, Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > Is there a reason why gnutls-config and xml2-config aren't just tiny | > wrappers around pkg-config for backwards compatibility? IMO, it's | > kinda silly to have each package provide its own -config script w

Re: Booting - new idea?

2006-06-30 Thread Tim Dijkstra
On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 15:14:07 -0300 "Gustavo Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 6/29/06, Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Software suspend which exists in kernel for several years? > > > > > > And works properly in Debian since what? Weeks? Months?:-) > > It doesn't really w

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-06-30 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Marc Haber [Fri, Jun 30 2006, 08:00:57AM]: > On Thu, 29 Jun 2006 11:43:45 -0700, Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >Steinar H. Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I usually notice the difference -- the other way. "aptitude update" on a > >> machine that hasn't been up

Re: These new diffs are great, but...

2006-06-30 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 08:44:30 +0200, Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Your guess is correct, see #372504. "This is currently a UI problem. >It displays the line three times, but it only downloads it in the >first. The other two lines are unpack and rred (patch)." So the "rred" is not a

Re: Dropping indirect dependencies from libgnutls-config --libs

2006-06-30 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On 6/30/06, Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there a reason why gnutls-config and xml2-config aren't just tiny wrappers around pkg-config for backwards compatibility? IMO, it's kinda silly to have each package provide its own -config script with its own set of bugs, rather than havi

Re: Dropping indirect dependencies from libgnutls-config --libs

2006-06-30 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Mike Hommey | On Thu, Jun 29, 2006 at 07:38:56PM +0200, Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > Hello, | > currently "libgnutls-config --libs"' output looks like this, | > -L/usr/lib -lgnutls -L/usr/lib -ltasn1 -lgcrypt -lgpg-error | > listing both direct (-lgnutls) and indirect depende

Re: News from the python policy transition

2006-06-30 Thread Toni Mueller
Hello, On Wed, 28.06.2006 at 23:20:46 +0200, Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please look for your name (or your team) in the list below and start > updating those as well! I'm expecting to update roundup this or the next weekend at the latest to fix all currently outstanding bugs, i