Re: openssl will block bacula into etch?

2006-05-27 Thread Andreas Metzler
John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 02:55:39AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: [...] >> Any source that builds udebs is always frozen (openssl builds >> libcrypto0.9.8-udeb). Udebs have to be moved into testing manualy and >> without the freeze the source+deb and ud

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:48, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:03, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > >> > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:19:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> >> On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mama

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:49, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The vote at champoeg was when the Oregon Territory voted to become > > Canadian. We're on the south side of the border exclusively due to > > the threat of military force when the US couldn't h

Re: openssl will block bacula into etch?

2006-05-27 Thread John Goerzen
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 02:55:39AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > regards, > > -- stratus > > Any source that builds udebs is always frozen (openssl builds > libcrypto0.9.8-udeb). Udebs have to be moved into testing manualy and > without the freeze the source+deb and udeb versions would dr

Re: [Debconf-discuss] list of valid documents for KSPs

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But then again people could lookup say mexican IDs and visas before > going to a KSP in mexico so they have some clue what it should look > like. Actually, in the present case, I believe it turns out that Martin Krafft's ID was exactly what it cl

Re: [Debconf-discuss] list of valid documents for KSPs

2006-05-27 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Goswin von Brederlow dijo [Sun, May 28, 2006 at 02:50:26AM +0200]: > >> Is there a list of official documents (with photos) that we can consider > >> acceptable for a KSP?. If there's not we definitely need one. > >> However this is rather tricky because the list itself should be > >> authenticat

Re: Bug#368985: ITP: mod-bt -- BitTorrent tracker for the Apache2 web server

2006-05-27 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You're missing the point that sonames track *ABI* changes, and -dev package > names should track *API* changes. Typically, upstreams make API changes on > new major releases; ABI changes can happen much more often than this. > Tracking sonames in your -

Re: openssl will block bacula into etch?

2006-05-27 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Gustavo Franco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 5/27/06, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Looking on packages.qa.debian.org, I'm seeing some confusing >> information and am hoping someone can help me figure out what's going >> on. >> >> The bacula page lists a depends on o

Re: [Debconf-discuss] list of valid documents for KSPs

2006-05-27 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:28:35PM +0200, Filippo Giunchedi wrote: >> Is there a list of official documents (with photos) that we can consider >> acceptable for a KSP?. If there's not we definitely need one. >> However this is rather tricky because the

Re: [Debconf-discuss] list of valid documents for KSPs (was: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys)

2006-05-27 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Steve Langasek dijo [Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:12:48PM -0700]: > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:28:35PM +0200, Filippo Giunchedi wrote: > > Is there a list of official documents (with photos) that we can consider > > acceptable for a KSP?. If there's not we definitely need one. > > However this is rathe

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:03, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:19:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On 27 May 2006, Lio

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Saturday 27 May 2006 15:28, Ron Johnson wrote: >> Paul Johnson wrote: >>> On Friday 26 May 2006 15:27, Ron Johnson wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: > On Thursday 25 May 2006 08:30, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> Given time,

Re: cowbuilder (pbuilder/cowdancer) released

2006-05-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > > Please share your experience with the world; cowbuilder code is pretty > > preliminary and doesn't have some features; please do report if you're > > 12 hours ago I initialized a buildd cowbuilder. Now I wanted to upgrade > it: > cowbuilder --update > and this wanted to update coreu

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 03:41:58PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: >> On Saturday 27 May 2006 14:12, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: >>> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 01:54:03PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: >> Oregon abolished the voting boo

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:12, Ron Johnson wrote: >> Paul Johnson wrote: >>> On Saturday 27 May 2006 14:12, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 01:54:03PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> Oregon abolished th

Re: gnome 1 packages up for adoption

2006-05-27 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Thomas Bushnell BSG [Sat, 27 May 2006 15:49:41 -0700]: Hi Thomas, > (indeed, whenever I use rdepends I get a lot of > spurious entries, and I don't know why, and it requires gobs of manual > work to figure out which ones are real). One scenario in which it does not work: http://chistera.yi.

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The vote at champoeg was when the Oregon Territory voted to become > Canadian. We're on the south side of the border exclusively due to > the threat of military force when the US couldn't handle the fact > that we don't want them here the first time arou

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:03, Ron Johnson wrote: >> Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: >> > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:19:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >> On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane spake thusly: >> >>> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:04:31PM -0500, M

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Saturday 27 May 2006 15:52, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: >> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > If only that were true. The Americans give me hell. Canada >> > practically waves me through. Last time I drove back to Oregon, US >> > customs d

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Steve McIntyre
Ron Johnson writes: >Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: >> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:19:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >>> On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane spake thusly: On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:04:31PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane stated: >> >[snip

Re: openssl will block bacula into etch?

2006-05-27 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 5/27/06, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello, Looking on packages.qa.debian.org, I'm seeing some confusing information and am hoping someone can help me figure out what's going on. The bacula page lists a depends on openssl, which is accurate, and says "not considered" -- which I g

openssl will block bacula into etch?

2006-05-27 Thread John Goerzen
Hello, Looking on packages.qa.debian.org, I'm seeing some confusing information and am hoping someone can help me figure out what's going on. The bacula page lists a depends on openssl, which is accurate, and says "not considered" -- which I guess means that bacula can't be considered for migrati

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:12, Ron Johnson wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Saturday 27 May 2006 14:12, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > >> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 01:54:03PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > Oregon abolished the voting booth in 2000 > > Oh, so they get better counts and

BACK TO -DEVEL

2006-05-27 Thread Norbert Preining
He guys! On Sam, 27 Mai 2006, Paul Johnson wrote: > > In one post you write, "I am not an American", but in another you > > assert your rights as an American citizen. > > > > Make up your mind, or move to Canada. > > We voted to become Canadian at the Vote of Champoeg. The US couldn't handle >

Re: cowbuilder (pbuilder/cowdancer) released

2006-05-27 Thread Norbert Preining
Dear Uekawa-san, On Sam, 27 Mai 2006, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Please share your experience with the world; cowbuilder code is pretty > preliminary and doesn't have some features; please do report if you're 12 hours ago I initialized a buildd cowbuilder. Now I wanted to upgrade it: cowbuil

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 03:41:58PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Saturday 27 May 2006 14:12, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 01:54:03PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > >>> Oregon abolished the voting booth in 2000 > > >> Oh, so they get better counts and less fraud by doin

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 16:03, Ron Johnson wrote: > Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:19:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane spake thusly: > >>> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:04:31PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On 27 May 2006, Li

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 15:52, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If only that were true. The Americans give me hell. Canada > > practically waves me through. Last time I drove back to Oregon, US > > customs decided that it was appropriate to violate the ri

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 15:32, Ron Johnson wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 26 May 2006 18:34, Russ Allbery wrote: > >> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>> On Thursday 25 May 2006 08:30, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Given time, one can pay more attention to each document (I r

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 15:41, Ron Johnson wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 26 May 2006 13:40, Joe Smith wrote: > >> Apparently the US makes it very clear that US Citizens are not to be > >> pestered at customs > >> "OR ELSE". > > > > If only that were true. The Americans give me hell.

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 15:28, Ron Johnson wrote: > Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 26 May 2006 15:27, Ron Johnson wrote: > >> Paul Johnson wrote: > >>> On Thursday 25 May 2006 08:30, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Given time, one can pay more attention to each document (I require at > least

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Saturday 27 May 2006 14:12, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: >> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 01:54:03PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > Oregon abolished the voting booth in 2000 Oh, so they get better counts and less fraud by doing

Re: Re: Debian GNU/MINIX

2006-05-27 Thread El Presidente
On Sunday 28 May 2006 00:59, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > > That would be me. I've done a lot of compiling of packages over the past > few months but avoided the hard parts of a full port also my build machine > has become severely limited in disk space. Next week I'm getting a > replacement and at t

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 04:07:22PM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > > > The obvious example is the UK, which insists on checking your > > passport if you come from the mainland. Passport or ID Card, that is. > The www.britishembassy.gov.uk website suggests EEA n

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:19:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane spake thusly: >>> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:04:31PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mam

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 14:12, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote: > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 01:54:03PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > >>> Oregon abolished the voting booth in 2000 > >> > >> Oh, so they get better counts and less fraud by doing away with ballot > >> secrecy. How wonderful. > > > > No, that's

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:19:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane spake thusly: >> On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:04:31PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >>> On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane stated: The US constitution applies only to USA citizens, right? >>

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If only that were true. The Americans give me hell. Canada > practically waves me through. Last time I drove back to Oregon, US > customs decided that it was appropriate to violate the rights the US > constitution claims I have by searching my vehicle

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Saturday 27 May 2006 12:32, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: >> Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > (The fact that most of the constitution is not applied to foreign >> > national is more a shame than something to be proud of for USA-ians.) >

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Saturday 27 May 2006 12:32, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: >> Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> (The fact that most of the constitution is not applied to foreign >>> national is more a shame than something to be pr

Re: gnome 1 packages up for adoption

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 12:00:43PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > >> I have been maintaining the following gnome-1 support packages: > >> bonobo gal0.x gnome-libs gnome-print gtkhtml gwrapguile imlib >> libcapplet libglade oaf > > gwrapguile an

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday 26 May 2006 13:40, Joe Smith wrote: > >> Apparently the US makes it very clear that US Citizens are not to be >> pestered at customs >> "OR ELSE". > > If only that were true. The Americans give me hell. Canada practi

Re: gnome 1 packages up for adoption

2006-05-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 12:00:43PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > I have been maintaining the following gnome-1 support packages: > bonobo gal0.x gnome-libs gnome-print gtkhtml gwrapguile imlib > libcapplet libglade oaf gwrapguile and gtkhtml have no reverse-dependencies in Debian excep

Re: Bug#368985: ITP: mod-bt -- BitTorrent tracker for the Apache2 web server

2006-05-27 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag, 28. Mai 2006 00:00 schrieb Steve Langasek: > and -dev package > names should track *API* changes To be more precise: incompatible API changes. If the current API is simply extended by some new function, the -dev package keeps its numbered name. HS pgpwQExhAEWsj.pgp Description: PGP

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday 26 May 2006 18:34, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> On Thursday 25 May 2006 08:30, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Given time, one can pay more attention to each document (I require at >>>

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday 26 May 2006 15:27, Ron Johnson wrote: >> Paul Johnson wrote: >>> On Thursday 25 May 2006 08:30, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Given time, one can pay more attention to each document (I require at least two photo ID's

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane spake thusly: > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:04:31PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane stated: >>> On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 07:03:27PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Friday 26 May 2006 13:40, Joe Smith wrote: > > Apparently

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Christian Pernegger
And, to the people who have trouble distinguishing between paying for a passport and purchasing an ID, while I have had to pay for all my official identity documents, merely paying would not have got me one -- there were background checks, There were none at all in my case, as outline

Re: Bug#368985: ITP: mod-bt -- BitTorrent tracker for the Apache2 web server

2006-05-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 11:14:44AM -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote: > Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Odd, because my package depends on libapr0-dev (probably going to be > > > libapr0-dev | libapr1-dev soon), and an apt-cache search for "0-dev" on my > > The versionings is when stuff

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 10:19:57AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I would be more inclined to do that to the people who signed his key > > based on the Transnational Republic ID. > So, who are those people? Is Manoj one of them? It seems that

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread martin f krafft
Dear Manoj, dear fellow DDs, I guess I could have known that this experiment of mine would turn into a huge thread, unfortunately extending across two mailing lists. Thus, it is surely in order for me to apologise for being the cause that your inboxes filled up. I have said most of what I wanted

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 10:19, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I would be more inclined to do that to the people who signed his key > > based on the Transnational Republic ID. > > So, who are those people? Is Manoj one of them? Martin has yet to name name

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 13:41, Russ Allbery wrote: > Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Friday 26 May 2006 18:34, Russ Allbery wrote: > >> You can get a passport. > > > > Yeah, if I really want to give a country I don't really have much of any > > allegence to, and consider foreign, my

Re: not running depmod at boot time

2006-05-27 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 27, Eduard Bloch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > This is not a choice, every package which installs modules must run > > > > depmod or they will not be available until a reboot. > > > Yes. But no package (besides maybe module-init-tools) should ever run > > > depmod at boot time. This al

Re: [Debconf-discuss] list of valid documents for KSPs (was: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys)

2006-05-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:28:35PM +0200, Filippo Giunchedi wrote: > Is there a list of official documents (with photos) that we can consider > acceptable for a KSP?. If there's not we definitely need one. > However this is rather tricky because the list itself should be authenticated > somehow, w

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 01:54:03PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> Oregon abolished the voting booth in 2000 >> Oh, so they get better counts and less fraud by doing away with ballot >> secrecy. How wonderful. > No, that's not how it works, your ballot is still secret. Think about it for > a minut

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 12:32, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > (The fact that most of the constitution is not applied to foreign > > national is more a shame than something to be proud of for USA-ians.) > > But then, as it happens, it does apply to fo

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 06:17, Jacob S wrote: > > Oregon abolished the voting booth in 2000: "Election Day" is > > actually the last election day of six consecutive weeks we can vote > > (beat that and your wussy six hours, America!), and we vote at home. > > You have your option of mailing or ha

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Paul Johnson
On Saturday 27 May 2006 11:34, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 07:03:27PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Friday 26 May 2006 13:40, Joe Smith wrote: > >> Apparently the US makes it very clear that US Citizens are not to > >> be pestered at customs "OR ELSE". > > > > If only th

Re: Request for key signing in Shanghai

2006-05-27 Thread Julien Danjou
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 12:57:10AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > Will there be somebody around in Paris or in Florida this summer for > signing my key??? (I might travel there...) There will probably be some DD in Paris this summer, AFAICT. Me , at least. Cheers, -- Julien Danjou .''`. Debian

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:04:31PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane stated: >> On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 07:03:27PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: >>> On Friday 26 May 2006 13:40, Joe Smith wrote: Apparently the US makes it very clear that US Citizens are not to >

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Friday 26 May 2006 18:34, Russ Allbery wrote: >> You can get a passport. > Yeah, if I really want to give a country I don't really have much of any > allegence to, and consider foreign, my money and wait around for a few > months. I'm Oregonian, no

Re: not running depmod at boot time

2006-05-27 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Marco d'Itri [Sat, May 27 2006, 11:29:32AM]: > > > This is not a choice, every package which installs modules must run > > > depmod or they will not be available until a reboot. > > Yes. But no package (besides maybe module-init-tools) should ever run > > depmod at boot time. This all

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > (The fact that most of the constitution is not applied to foreign > national is more a shame than something to be proud of for USA-ians.) But then, as it happens, it does apply to foreign nationals who are under the jurisdiction of the United State

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 27 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane stated: > On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 07:03:27PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: >> On Friday 26 May 2006 13:40, Joe Smith wrote: > >>> Apparently the US makes it very clear that US Citizens are not to >>> be pestered at customs "OR ELSE". > >> If only that were true. Th

gnome 1 packages up for adoption

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
I have been maintaining the following gnome-1 support packages: bonobo gal0.x gnome-libs gnome-print gtkhtml gwrapguile imlib libcapplet libglade oaf I have been doing so because gnucash (which I maintain) was the last major gnome-1 package, and the gnome maintainers (quite reasonably) did n

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 27 May 2006, Gunnar Wolf verbalised: > Manoj Srivastava dijo [Sat, May 27, 2006 at 09:38:00AM -0500]: >> Only if we take the word of someone who was trying to subvert the >> keysigning to belavour the obvious that it is easy to get people to >> sign using purchased ID's. How do you know the cla

Re: Please revoke your signatures from MartinKraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 07:03:27PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Friday 26 May 2006 13:40, Joe Smith wrote: >> Apparently the US makes it very clear that US Citizens are not to >> be pestered at customs "OR ELSE". > If only that were true. The Americans give me hell. Joe probably meant "peste

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Manoj Srivastava dijo [Sat, May 27, 2006 at 09:38:00AM -0500]: > Only if we take the word of someone who was trying to subvert > the keysigning to belavour the obvious that it is easy to get people > to sign using purchased ID's. How do you know the claim about the > check was not anothe

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 04:07:22PM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > The obvious example is the UK, which insists on checking your > passport if you come from the mainland. The www.britishembassy.gov.uk website suggests EEA nationals need only an ID card. -- Lionel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, em

Re: Bug#368985: ITP: mod-bt -- BitTorrent tracker for the Apache2 web server

2006-05-27 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Odd, because my package depends on libapr0-dev (probably going to be > > libapr0-dev | libapr1-dev soon), and an apt-cache search for "0-dev" on my > > The versionings is when stuff change to incompatible APIs, so probably > depending on (libfoo0-dev

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 12:33:54PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Within the Schengen area (European Union plus Norway, Vatican, > and... any others?), you travel between countries without even > waving your passport at anybody. Yes, but that's because the Schengen area is one area in this. You stil

Re: Bug#368985: ITP: mod-bt -- BitTorrent tracker for the Apache2 web server

2006-05-27 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2006-05-27, Tyler MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Odd, because my package depends on libapr0-dev (probably going to be > libapr0-dev | libapr1-dev soon), and an apt-cache search for "0-dev" on my The versionings is when stuff change to incompatible APIs, so probably depending on (l

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 04:54:19PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 05:45:42PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: >> On Thursday 25 May 2006 15:26, Mike Hommey wrote: >>> I'm pretty sure we can find official IDs that look so lame that you'd think >>> it's a fake > Al

Re: Request for key signing in Shanghai

2006-05-27 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Thomas Goirand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-05-28 00:57]: > I've seen it, and that's why I said there was nobody in Shanghai. In > fact I was very surprised that there was nobody in China, as half of > the world population is in China... There are some Debian people in Beijing, and in Nanjing which

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I would be more inclined to do that to the people who signed his key > based on the Transnational Republic ID. So, who are those people? Is Manoj one of them? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

Re: Bug#368985: ITP: mod-bt -- BitTorrent tracker for the Apache2 web server

2006-05-27 Thread Tyler MacDonald
Mike Hommey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ondrej, > > The source package is named mod-bt. It produces the > > following .deb's: > > > > libbttracker0-dev_0.0.16-1_i386.deb > > libbtutil0-dev_0.0.16-1_i386.deb > There's no reason to have the so version in the -dev package name.

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> What do you think we get by having the signed ID? What advantages >> accrue to Debian by having this check that someone's real name is what >> we think it is? > >> I think it's a good thing, I agree with our practice, but I'm not sure >> what vast sec

Re: Request for key signing in Shanghai

2006-05-27 Thread Thomas Goirand
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stephen Gran wrote: > This one time, at band camp, Thomas Goirand said: >> Hello! >> >> Is there somebody in Shanghai from Debian able to check my ID >> and sign my key? If there is none, is there somebody in >> Singapore, where I might be able to go?

list of valid documents for KSPs (was: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys)

2006-05-27 Thread Filippo Giunchedi
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 04:54:19PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: [snip] > Also worth noting that Spanish driving license IDs are on that group. They > are just (pink) cardboard with your name written in with a typewriter and > your picture *stapled* to it. I believe that has changed

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 04:04:33PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > > That being said I (personally) already decided not to sign people that > > showed > > me something that was *not* a passport and noted that in my KSP paper page > > through it. Unfortunately, I'm not confindent in my ability t

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 05:20:59PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > > On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 05:45:42PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > >> On Thursday 25 May 2006 15:26, Mike Hommey wrote: > [snip] > > [0] As long

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 03:09:04PM +0200, Filippo Giunchedi wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 08:00:23PM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña > wrote: > > FWIW, I noted down those keys I would *not* sign and didn't tell the people > > at the KSP that I would not sign them. I guess his experiment "

Re: cowbuilder (pbuilder/cowdancer) released

2006-05-27 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
El sáb, 27-05-2006 a las 18:04 +0900, Junichi Uekawa escribió: > Hi, > > This is a small note to say that cowbuilder is now released, after > some coding and testing at Debconf in Mexico, and on the plane on my > way back. To use it, install pbuilder and cowdancer package. > > apt-get inst

Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 26 May 2006, Christian Pernegger told this: >> Stop signing keys for Debian developers, since purchased ID's are > acceptable in this community? ;) > > There's a difference between 'purchase' and 'pay for' in this > context. I have always had to pay for any kind of ID card, be it > passport, c

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Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 05:30:23PM +0200, Luca Capello wrote: > > FYI, Martin's explanation is at [1], which passed on Planet Debian. > > > > Thx, bye, > > Gismo / Luca > > > > [1] http://blog.madduck.net/geek/2006.05.24-tr-id-at-keysigning > > FWIW, I not

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On 5/27/06, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 12:33:54PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Within the Schengen area (European Union plus Norway, Vatican, > and... any others?), you travel between countries without even waving > your passport at anybody.

Re: RFH: problems building against libradius1-dev with libtool-aware packages?

2006-05-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 27 May 2006, sean finney wrote: > it also seems like later versions of libtool (>> sarge) are able to > work around this problem, but specifying this in the build-depends makes > things a bit harder for backporting to sarge. also, people will continue Backporting using backported build-ti

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Re: Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Jacob S
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 26 May 2006 16:24:27 -0700 Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 26 May 2006 15:20, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > > > On Thu, May 25, 2006 at 05:45:42PM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > > >> On Thursd

Re: cowbuilder (pbuilder/cowdancer) released

2006-05-27 Thread Norbert Preining
おはよう ございます 上川さん! Junichi Uekawa wrote: > cowbuilder --create --debootstrapopts --variant=buildd Perfect, thanks a lot, cowbuilder will get some checking with my packages. Best wishes Norbert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact

Bug#369080: ITP: sylpheed-claws-gtk2-extra-plugins -- Extra plugins collection for Sylpheed-Claws GTK2 mailer

2006-05-27 Thread Ricardo Mones
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ricardo Mones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: sylpheed-claws-gtk2-extra-plugins Version : 2.2.0 Upstream Author : Several authors * URL : http://www.sylpheed-claws.net/plugins.php * License : GPL Programming Lang: C

Re: cowbuilder (pbuilder/cowdancer) released

2006-05-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > > cowbuilder --create > > Is there a way to create a cowbuilder/pbuilder buildd similar > environment, i.e. required + build-essential? I use pbuilder for > building my packages and created the build.tgz with --login > --save-after-login and kicking out everything with hand... Does the

Re: RFH: problems building against libradius1-dev with libtool-aware packages?

2006-05-27 Thread sean finney
hey daniel, On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:08:36PM +0300, Daniel Stone wrote: > The real fix there, is to not install the .la file, ever. It's a world > of hurt, and gains us nothing on Debian systems. but considering the fact that i do not maintain radiusclient1, and essentially have no way to impl

Re: RFH: problems building against libradius1-dev with libtool-aware packages?

2006-05-27 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 06:42:40AM -0400, sean finney wrote: > the latest upstream version of nagios-plugins has incorporated libtool > into the build process, and no longer successfully builds in a pbuilder > chroot with the following error: The real fix there, is to not install the .la file, eve

RFH: problems building against libradius1-dev with libtool-aware packages?

2006-05-27 Thread sean finney
hey folks, the latest upstream version of nagios-plugins has incorporated libtool into the build process, and no longer successfully builds in a pbuilder chroot with the following error: /bin/sh ../libtool --tag=CC --mode=link gcc -Wall -g -O2 -L. -o check_radius check_radius.o netutils.o uti

Re: cowbuilder (pbuilder/cowdancer) released

2006-05-27 Thread Norbert Preining
On Sam, 27 Mai 2006, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > cowbuilder --create Is there a way to create a cowbuilder/pbuilder buildd similar environment, i.e. required + build-essential? I use pbuilder for building my packages and created the build.tgz with --login --save-after-login and kicking out every

Re: [Debconf-discuss] Please revoke your signatures from Martin Kraff's keys

2006-05-27 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Fri, May 26, 2006 at 12:33:54PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Within the Schengen area (European Union plus Norway, Vatican, > and... any others?), you travel between countries without even waving > your passport at anybody. That's not fully true. You have to show your passport to the *first* cou

Re: not running depmod at boot time

2006-05-27 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 27, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> No, Im asking to have _one_ delay at a defined point instead of X > >> packages having a delay because they might have to run depmod manualy. > > This is not a choice, every package which installs modules must run > > depmod or they w

cowbuilder (pbuilder/cowdancer) released

2006-05-27 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, This is a small note to say that cowbuilder is now released, after some coding and testing at Debconf in Mexico, and on the plane on my way back. To use it, install pbuilder and cowdancer package. apt-get install pbuilder cowdancer Then create the chroot image in /var/cache/pbuilder

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