Re: NEW queue backlog

2006-05-23 Thread Thomas Viehmann
[apologies for the blank reply] Michael Banck wrote: > Both Jörg and Jeroen (who are usually doing the NEW processing AFAIK) > are travelling in Mexico for another two weeks I believe. Maybe one of > the regular ftp-masters steps in and does some processing for the more > important stuff in the m

not running depmod at boot time

2006-05-23 Thread Marco d'Itri
So, does anybody mind if I remove depmod from the module-init-tools init script? -- ciao, Marco -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: libetpan 0.45-2 was built on m68k but not went to archive?

2006-05-23 Thread Ingo Juergensmann
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 01:23:49PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > I just found that my package, libetpan, was not updated for m68k. > [1] states that it is out of date on m68k. > But [2] states that latest version was successfully built on m68k long ago > - on Apr17. > What's going on? A

Re: use of "invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $?" in prerm scripts

2006-05-23 Thread Michael Prokop
* Bernd Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Prokop wrote: >> How do you achieve that? For example symlinking invoke-rc.d to >> /bin/true is a workaround, but I'm searching for a general solution >> to avoid that daemons are started when upgrading even though they >> did not run before th

Re: libetpan 0.45-2 was built on m68k but not went to archive?

2006-05-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 01:23:49PM +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > Hello. > > I just found that my package, libetpan, was not updated for m68k. > [1] states that it is out of date on m68k. > But [2] states that latest version was successfully built on m68k long ago > - on Apr17. > > What's

free flash stuff WAS: Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-23 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, 2006-05-22 at 18:58 -0500, Anthony Towns wrote: > Java is one of the most important packages for which we don't have an > effective non-free replacement at present. The only one that I can think > of that would be more important would be flash. There is a gnash package destined for experi

Re: Changing the default syslogd (again...)

2006-05-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 23 May 2006, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña said: > On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 07:38:10AM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > (...) >> Issues: (1) Quality. sysklogd has 105 open bugs: 3 important (1 >> with patch), 43 normal (11 with patches), 11 minor (4 with >> patches), and 19 wishlist (some of w

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-23 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Mike Bird said: > On Monday 22 May 2006 16:52, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > I don't think the chance of "nutcase sueing Sun for Bad Applet" is any > > more relevant or likely than the chance of "nutcase sueing Debian for > > bad browser". I really don't see how it makes t

Re: Packages violating policy 8.2

2006-05-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 23 May 2006, Goswin von Brederlow stated: > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> On 22 May 2006, Goswin von Brederlow stated: >> >>> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>> On 22 May 2006, Goswin von Brederlow outgrape: > I think that Policy 8.2 is fully applicabl

Re: libdb transition policy? (Was: Re: Bug#367853: libetpan: Please consider transitioning to libdb4.4)

2006-05-23 Thread Andreas Barth
* Nikita V. Youshchenko ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [060523 17:22]: > However, if I will build library against libdb4.4 instead of libdb4.2, this > will probably break any binaries built against the library - both packaged > and local. Why that? It would only affect packages that (correctly or wrongly)

Processed: fix manual page name section: recode(1)

2006-05-23 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > clone 368383 -1 Bug#368383: dumb "manual page for..." NAME section on many man pages Bug 368383 cloned as bug 368634. > reassign -1 recode Bug#368634: dumb "manual page for..." NAME section on many man pages Bug reassigned from package `general' to `re

Re: Bug#368383: dumb "manual page for..." NAME section on many man pages

2006-05-23 Thread Brendan O'Dea
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 10:29:16PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Glad that you guys will take care of this, as it is way over my head. It's not complex. The problem manual pages have been generated with a program [help2man] which interprets a program's --help output. Unfortunately, it's not p

Processed: fix manual page name section: fribidi(1)

2006-05-23 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > clone 368383 -1 Bug#368383: dumb "manual page for..." NAME section on many man pages Bug 368383 cloned as bug 368632. > reassign -1 libfribidi0 Bug#368632: dumb "manual page for..." NAME section on many man pages Bug reassigned from package `general' t

Re: use of "invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $?" in prerm scripts

2006-05-23 Thread Bernd Schubert
> > inside their prerm maintainer scripts. If stopping $PACKAGE through > invoke-rc.d/init-script fails, removing the package fails as well. > > Using: > > invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || true > /etc/init.d/$PACKAGE stop || true > We are using chroot environments (e.g. with sid) where no daem

Processed: fix manual page name sections

2006-05-23 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > clone 368383 -1 Bug#368383: dumb "manual page for..." NAME section on many man pages Bug 368383 cloned as bug 368628. > reassign -1 mailutils Bug#368628: dumb "manual page for..." NAME section on many man pages Bug reassigned from package `general' to

Bug#368625: ITP: alleggl -- OpenGL extension for the Allegro gaming library

2006-05-23 Thread Sam Hocevar (Debian packages)
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Sam Hocevar (Debian packages)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: alleggl Version : 0.4-RC4 Upstream Author : Bertrand Coconnier, Elias Pschernig, George Foot, Robert J Ohannessian * URL : http://allegrogl.s

Re: use of "invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $?" in prerm scripts

2006-05-23 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 23 May 2006, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > Unfortunately sometimes the daemon does not stop for an error in the > maintainer script and that prevents upgrading for ever, even when > the package has been corrected. BTW, it seems a lack in the policy > to specify how the maintainers scripts

Re: Packages violating policy 8.2

2006-05-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 22 May 2006, Goswin von Brederlow stated: > >> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>> On 22 May 2006, Goswin von Brederlow outgrape: I think that Policy 8.2 is fully applicable to your package then. It is a MUST directive so

Re: use of "invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $?" in prerm scripts

2006-05-23 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 09:46:10AM +0200, Frank Küster wrote: > Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > * Michael Prokop: > > > >> Using: > >> > >> invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || true > >> /etc/init.d/$PACKAGE stop || true > >> > >> would be a replacement already used in some packages li

Re: Bug#368551: ITP: xml-security-c -- C++ library for XML Digital Signatures

2006-05-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Guus Sliepen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 05:28:07PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: >> * Package name: xml-security-c >> Programming Lang: C++ >> Description : C++ library for XML Digital Signatures > If it is a C++ library, please name the package xml-security-c+

Re: use of "invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $?" in prerm scripts

2006-05-23 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 23 May 2006, Florian Weimer wrote: > I suppose it would be preferable to fix the "stop" target of the init There is nothing preferable about it. Stop targets *are* to exit with status 0 if the service is already stopped. The fact that Debian policy still has this as a "should" clause is

Re: alternatives and priorities

2006-05-23 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[George Danchev] > or some hosts have popularity-contest installed from pure upstream sources > instead from a popularity-contest debian package, thus don't have it > registered with the dpkg db. That would seriously surprise me, as popularity-contest only is distributed as a Debian package, an

Re: Changing the default syslogd (again...)

2006-05-23 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Nathanael Nerode] > Conclusion > -- > We should change the default syslogd. There is only one feature I miss in the current sysklogd package, and that is the ability to store the facility and severity in the log file. If we are to switch, please select one where this is possible to enab

Re: use of "invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $?" in prerm scripts

2006-05-23 Thread Bernd Schubert
Michael Prokop wrote: > * Bernd Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> inside their prerm maintainer scripts. If stopping $PACKAGE through >>> invoke-rc.d/init-script fails, removing the package fails as well. > >>> Using: > >>> invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || true >>> /etc/init.d/$PACKAGE

Re: Making init scripts use dash

2006-05-23 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Sat, May 20, 2006 at 01:58:14AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > The interesting fact is that, contrary to what I expected, running > "configure" was improved by only about 1% on average. That may come from the fact that "configure" uses only the most basic shell constructs (it does not even use

Re: use of "invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $?" in prerm scripts

2006-05-23 Thread Michael Prokop
* Bernd Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> inside their prerm maintainer scripts. If stopping $PACKAGE through >> invoke-rc.d/init-script fails, removing the package fails as well. >> Using: >> invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || true >> /etc/init.d/$PACKAGE stop || true > We are using chroot

Re: libdb transition policy?

2006-05-23 Thread Florian Weimer
* Nikita V. Youshchenko: > However, if I will build library against libdb4.4 instead of > libdb4.2, this will probably break any binaries built against the > library - both packaged and local. What kind of interface does libetpan expose? Based on the package description, I wouldn't expect the li

Bug#368581: ITP: libdatetime-format-strptime-perl -- Parse and format strp and strf time patterns

2006-05-23 Thread Krzysztof Krzyzaniak (eloy)
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Krzysztof Krzyzaniak (eloy)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libdatetime-format-strptime-perl Version : 1.0601 Upstream Author : Rick Measham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/CPAN/authors/id/R/RI/RICKM/Date

libetpan 0.45-2 was built on m68k but not went to archive?

2006-05-23 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
Hello. I just found that my package, libetpan, was not updated for m68k. [1] states that it is out of date on m68k. But [2] states that latest version was successfully built on m68k long ago - on Apr17. What's going on? Whom to contact on this issue? Nikita [1] http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/test

libdb transition policy? (Was: Re: Bug#367853: libetpan: Please consider transitioning to libdb4.4)

2006-05-23 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
[CCing to -devel and to people who maintain packages that depend on libetpan] > Package: libetpan > Severity: wishlist > > > Hi, > currently several versions of the berkeley db libraries are used in the > archive: libdb[4.2,4.3,4.4]. > Please consider upgrading to libdb4.4 in order to ship etch w

Re: alternatives and priorities

2006-05-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 04:55:52PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If you have a look at the order of the by_vote numbers for editors, > > you'll see that vim, not nvi or nano, is at the top. > > A list like this only seems meaningful if the entries are

Re: Bug#368551: ITP: xml-security-c -- C++ library for XML Digital Signatures

2006-05-23 Thread Guus Sliepen
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 05:28:07PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > * Package name: xml-security-c > Programming Lang: C++ > Description : C++ library for XML Digital Signatures If it is a C++ library, please name the package xml-security-c++. If upstream names their tarballs xml-security

Re: alternatives and priorities

2006-05-23 Thread Miles Bader
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If you have a look at the order of the by_vote numbers for editors, > you'll see that vim, not nvi or nano, is at the top. A list like this only seems meaningful if the entries are fairly consistent with each other. For instance, if you have packages

Re: use of "invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || exit $?" in prerm scripts

2006-05-23 Thread Frank Küster
Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Michael Prokop: > >> Using: >> >> invoke-rc.d $PACKAGE stop || true >> /etc/init.d/$PACKAGE stop || true >> >> would be a replacement already used in some packages like for >> example at, binfmt-support, dnsmasq, drbd0.7-utils, freeradius, hal, >>

Re: alternatives and priorities

2006-05-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 10:42:26PM -0300, Maximiliano Curia wrote: > On Sunday 21 May 2006 16:31, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > You would end up with nvi or nano as editors, since they are installed by > > > default. Probably more as viewer and so on. > > > Which is bad why? > > What I meant was t

Re: Making init scripts use dash

2006-05-23 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Tue, May 23, 2006 at 01:19:44PM +0200, Gabor Gombas wrote: > difference. Some very basic tests using callgrind show that bash uses > 20-30 times more CPU cache than dash. And when things are running Er, fat fingers. The difference is just 2-3 times. Gabor -- ---

Re: Making init scripts use dash

2006-05-23 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 01:55:54PM +, Jörg Sommer wrote: > But what counts more in the comparison dash vs. bash is the shell > startup. And the shell is started for every script not name foo.sh. Also, if init scripts will be really parallel (meaning lots of concurrent scripts, not just 2-3),

Re: libdb transition policy?

2006-05-23 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
> * Nikita V. Youshchenko: > > However, if I will build library against libdb4.4 instead of > > libdb4.2, this will probably break any binaries built against the > > library - both packaged and local. > > What kind of interface does libetpan expose? Based on the package > description, I wouldn't

Re: libdb transition policy?

2006-05-23 Thread Florian Weimer
* Nikita V. Youshchenko: >> * Nikita V. Youshchenko: >> > However, if I will build library against libdb4.4 instead of >> > libdb4.2, this will probably break any binaries built against the >> > library - both packaged and local. >> >> What kind of interface does libetpan expose? Based on the pac

Re: alternatives and priorities

2006-05-23 Thread Nick Phillips
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 03:46:28PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > That's not an issue. First, ed doesn't install an alternatives for > "editor". Second, there's also 'by_vote', which puts vim on top. Which is an excellent demonstration of "why we should not use popcon to decide alternatives prio

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Well, IANAL, but as far as I can see, as long as Sun has a valid reason > to change their mind and is willing to compensate any losses caused by > them changing their mind, they can do whatever they like. Well, but *that* I don't think is a wor

Bug#368553: ITP: libparallel-forkmanager-perl -- A simple parallel processing fork manager for Perl

2006-05-23 Thread John Lightsey
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: John Lightsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libparallel-forkmanager-perl Version : 0.7.5 Upstream Author : Szabó, Balázs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~dlux/Parallel-ForkManager-0.7.5/ * License

Re: alternatives and priorities

2006-05-23 Thread Maximiliano Curia
On Sunday 21 May 2006 16:31, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > You would end up with nvi or nano as editors, since they are installed by > > default. Probably more as viewer and so on. > Which is bad why? What I meant was that you would have a high number of installations for the packages that are inst

Bug#368551: ITP: xml-security-c -- C++ library for XML Digital Signatures

2006-05-23 Thread Russ Allbery
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: xml-security-c Version : 1.2.1 Upstream Author : The Apache Software Foundation * URL : http://xml.apache.org/security/ * License : Apache 2.0 Programming Lang: C++ Des

Re: Making init scripts use dash

2006-05-23 Thread Felipe Sateler
gregor herrmann wrote: > IIRC lintian does this already. And devscripts contains a 'checkbashishms' tool -- Felipe Sateler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-23 Thread Mike Bird
On Monday 22 May 2006 16:52, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > I don't think the chance of "nutcase sueing Sun for Bad Applet" is any > more relevant or likely than the chance of "nutcase sueing Debian for > bad browser". I really don't see how it makes the license problematic. And that is why, in legal ma

Re: Unidentified subject!

2006-05-23 Thread Hex Star
On 5/22/06, Matthew R. Dempsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Sun, May 21, 2006 at 10:00:43PM -0700, Hex Star wrote:> Hmmm...interesting...the other time someone posted something explicit and> someone replied to it and pointed it out, everyone joined in and> investigated it...this time the person wh

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-23 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 08:47:52AM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > On Monday 22 May 2006 06:56, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 01:47:01PM +0200, Romain Beauxis wrote: > > > On Monday 22 May 2006 13:35, you wrote: > > > > Try as I might, and considering how lawyers and judges are human