Re: mdadm 2.4.1-1 ready for tests

2006-05-17 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.05.17.2210 -0500]: > mdadm is a *critical* part of a system that uses linux software > raid. Anything that helps users understand all the important > changes an update will imply is always uselful. Of course, but if there weren't

Re: mdadm 2.4.1-1 ready for tests

2006-05-17 Thread Frank Küster
martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > also sprach Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.05.17.1029 -0500]: >> I know this isn't the sort of feedback you want but these aren't >> all "please ship the new version of mdadm" bugs and whilst they >> might well be fixed by this version I though

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Brendon Higgins
Here I was, as a user, happy to read the announcement that the real thing was going into non-free. Then this. Brilliant. This is a stuff-up of Kovco[1] proportions. How can Sun consider a license with those sort of provisions fair? How can the JDK get into the archive before anyone picking up on

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Don Armstrong
Executive Summary: There are serious issues with clause 2a, 2b, 2c, 2f, and 4; and lesser issues with other bits of this license. As much as some of our users would like to see us distributing this JDK in non-free, I'm really not sure that it can be distributed while complying with the license or w

Re: Mass bug filing: failure to use invoke-rc.d when required

2006-05-17 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:37:56PM +, Brian M. Carlson wrote: > Then when are we removing the debian-policy package from the archive? > But seriously, if violating Debian Policy has no consequences, then it > probably won't be followed. As it stands now, Policy is useless because > the worst t

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 10:44:54PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 08:20:14AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > > During the past weeks there has been close collaboration between Sun > > engineers and Debian and Ubuntu developers. The quick turnaround for > > creating tho

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Florian Weimer
* Bill Allombert: > I don't think it is appropriate to use debian-devel-announce to > advertise non-free softwares epecially when we are striving to provide > a free alternative. I tend to agree. > Any pointer to that discussion ? I could not find any on debian-legal. > From reading the licens

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Florian Weimer
* Emmanuel le Chevoir: > Florian Weimer a écrit : >> * Jeroen van Wolffelaar: >> >>> Official packages of Sun Java are now available from the non-free >>> section of Debian unstable, thanks to Sun releasing[11 Java under a new >>> license: the Operating System Distributor License for Java (DLJ)[2

Re: Why not making /sbin/sendmail a mantadory component for mail operation?

2006-05-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 17 May 2006, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> delivered internaly or not at all for my chroots but I still want to >> be able to report bugs with the right dependency informations. If you >> force the use of an MTA then I would have t

Re: mdadm 2.4.1-1 ready for tests

2006-05-17 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 09:55:54PM -0500, martin f krafft wrote: > I just don't think there's a big point in duplicating information in > the Debian changelog. I see debian work as tailoring upstream one so that it best fits our users. Selecting the appropriate information from the upstream change

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-17 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 17 May 2006, Henning Makholm wrote: > Scripsit Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> What about modifying it to work through something like an http POST? > > > I'm personally not too terribly interested in implementing an HTTP > > access method for the BTS, because it makes it more easy f

Re: mdadm 2.4.1-1 ready for tests

2006-05-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 17 May 2006, martin f krafft wrote: > Mh. I don't want to (re)start a flamewar, but my take is that > changelog.Debian documents changes I've made, and the upstream > changelog documents the changes they've made. I acknowledge these > changes by closing the bugs, and if you care how it got

Re: Re: screenshot with package description

2006-05-17 Thread Andrew Donnellan
What I am trying to point out is that the DEBs *would* be a good idea it would clog up APT and dpkg (emphasis on dpkg) because on my system I have over 25 files from packages installed and as a result it takes at *least* 30 seconds to read the database from /var/lib/dpkg. Adding these pixmaps

Re: I want to modify the gnome panel deb package

2006-05-17 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 17 mai 2006 à 06:31 +0100, Indraveni a écrit : > Hi, > > we are working for a distro which is using debian pacakges. By > default the gnome panel is having no colour. I want to change the look > and feel of the panel, Applications menu backgroud color, Window title > background color

Re: Why not making /sbin/sendmail a mantadory component for mail operation?

2006-05-17 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 03:16:35PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > Ignorance, fear of becoming an open relay and years of learning > will have to be overcome before Most Users will config Debian to > use a relayhost. It's not very difficult to have exim, the default MTA, simply not launch an smtp lis

Re: mdadm 2.4.1-1 ready for tests

2006-05-17 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Simon Huggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.05.17.1029 -0500]: > I know this isn't the sort of feedback you want but these aren't > all "please ship the new version of mdadm" bugs and whilst they > might well be fixed by this version I thought consensus was to try > to describe what it was

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 17 May 2006, Ron Johnson wrote: > It blocks *incoming* port 25 traffic for well understood reasons. Yes, purely commercial reasons. > I never knew, though that it also blocks all *outgoing* smtp > traffic except to it's own servers. Maybe to Winbots from emailing > files back "home"? Ye

Re: Why not making /sbin/sendmail a mantadory component for mail operation?

2006-05-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 17 May 2006, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > You mean connection from random user ports to destination port 25? Yes. > If you are at a place where that is the case then you should have an > IT team or admin that will tell you what smtp host to use or even > install your system. We do. So

Re: id gives conflicting results

2006-05-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Juha Jäykkä <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was digging around a problem with a user not being able to access his > cdrom even though the user belongs to group cdrom (as reported by > "groups user") and the cdrom device is mode rw- group cdrom. It was > immediately clear this is a libnss-ldap issu

Re: Section of -dev packages

2006-05-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Kevin B. McCarty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In case anyone is interested in filing mass bug reports (I am not > sufficiently interested, sorry), here are the -dev packages in > unexpected sections, obtained as follows: > > grep-aptavail -r -P '.*-dev$' -s Section,Package | paste -sd ' \n' |

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Darren Salt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I demand that Gabor Gombas may or may not have written... > > [snip] >> How do you want to handle one-arch-only binNMUs? binNMUs change >> changelog.Debian.gz, so >> - you can't upgrade just the architecture that was binNMUed without >> changelog.Debian.

Re: Why not making /sbin/sendmail a mantadory component for mail operation?

2006-05-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> >> And how would that be any simpler than setting an smtp server for >> reportbug? Setting up a fully usable MTA is more difficult than having >> reportbug connect directly to bugs.d.o. >> > > I'm sorry, but that i

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Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email

2006-05-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 23:28 +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Wed, 17 May 2006 11:35:44 +0200, Adam Borowski > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > > Why this tool is written in python, an interpreted language with a run > time system the size of Buckingham Palace, The White House and the > Kreml combi

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 22:47 +0200, Michal Čihař wrote: > On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:44:19 -0500 > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Interesting. b.d.o doesn't seem to be answering on port 25 though. > > Doesn't your provider block port 25? > > $ telnet bugs.debian.org 25 > Trying 140.211

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 17 May 2006 22:56:06 +0100 Thiemo Seufer wrote: > Francesco Poli wrote: > > On Wed, 17 May 2006 12:02:34 + Brian M. Carlson wrote: > > > > > [For -legal people, the license is attached.] > > > > Thanks. > > > > [...] > > > Also, section 4 poses a major issue. If, for any reason, th

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 09:50:51AM -0400, Kevin B. McCarty wrote: > > If Sun becomes aware of a compatibility problem with the JDK > > software on your OS distribution and notifies you about it, then you > > must fix the problem and offer a patch or new version to your > > downstream users

Re: Section of -dev packages

2006-05-17 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
In case anyone is interested in filing mass bug reports (I am not sufficiently interested, sorry), here are the -dev packages in unexpected sections, obtained as follows: grep-aptavail -r -P '.*-dev$' -s Section,Package | paste -sd ' \n' | \ egrep -v '^Section: (|contrib/|non-free/)(doc|python|

id gives conflicting results

2006-05-17 Thread Juha Jäykkä
Hi! I was digging around a problem with a user not being able to access his cdrom even though the user belongs to group cdrom (as reported by "groups user") and the cdrom device is mode rw- group cdrom. It was immediately clear this is a libnss-ldap issue, since the problem disappears if I add the

Re: Why not making /sbin/sendmail a mantadory component for mail operation?

2006-05-17 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > And how would that be any simpler than setting an smtp server for > reportbug? Setting up a fully usable MTA is more difficult than having > reportbug connect directly to bugs.d.o. > I'm sorry, but that is just plain wrong. aptitude install postfix "What type of

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Francesco Poli wrote: > On Wed, 17 May 2006 12:02:34 + Brian M. Carlson wrote: > > > [For -legal people, the license is attached.] > > Thanks. > > [...] > > Also, section 4 poses a major issue. If, for any reason, the Linux > > kernel doesn't do something that Java requires, then we are obl

Re: Why not making /sbin/sendmail a mantadory component for mail operation?

2006-05-17 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Ron Johnson wrote: > > The d-i people, or the m-t-a people? That's where you define what > kind of service you want. > > You'd not just have to bluntly ask, but firmly recommend that they > install the m-t-a as a relay host. (Once a desktop user like me > figures out what a relayhost is, and th

Re: Section of -dev packages

2006-05-17 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Jörg Sommer wrote: > Hi, > > I ever thought development packages classified by $NAME-dev belong to the > Section devel or libdevel, but > > I am really suprised. Which packages belong to devel/libdevel? > I found this more instructive: $ apt-cache search -n .\*-dev\$ | sed 's/ -.*//' | xarg

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Thiemo Seufer
Carlos Correia wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Florian Weimer escreveu: > | * Jeroen van Wolffelaar: > | > | > |>Official packages of Sun Java are now available from the non-free > |>section of Debian unstable, thanks to Sun releasing[11 Java under a new > |>license: t

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 10:34 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 00:01 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> >> "Olaf van der Spek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >> >> > On 5/15/0

Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email

2006-05-17 Thread Tim Cutts
On 15 May 2006, at 1:13 pm, Henning Makholm wrote: Scripsit Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> More generally, Perl modules to send mail rather than using /usr/sbin/sendmail are often useful with web applications (or other applications that need security isolation) that are running in a chroo

Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email

2006-05-17 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 17 May 2006 11:35:44 +0200, Adam Borowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Except, this is _doubling_ a question that was already asked somewhere else, >ie, a bug. The UNIX way of configuring the mail is setting up a binary that >knows how to deliver it as "/usr/sbin/sendmail"; it doesn't matte

Re: Creation of custom "configured" packages?

2006-05-17 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 17 May 2006 12:33:21 +0200, "cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >=> /etc/.d directory might not be perfect, but it's good sight > better then monolitic configuration files Agreement on that. Greetings Marc -- -- !! No courtesy co

Re: debian and UDEV

2006-05-17 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 10:44:21AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Which is still stupid not to have in the kernel API as feedback from > the event manager and have insmod optionaly block. For that to work you should make device discovery synchronous everywhere in the kernel. That would be a

Re: Why not making /sbin/sendmail a mantadory component for mail operation?

2006-05-17 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 09:42:42AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > >>An open outgoing port 25 is commonly blocked by default anywhere you >>have non-incompetent network management, unless you are on the >>business of selling full internet uplinks for serv

Re: Why not making /sbin/sendmail a mantadory component for mail operation?

2006-05-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 17 May 2006, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> which results in "smtphost bugs.debian.org" in the conffile. Maybe the >> default to the MTA question could be "N" instead. > > An open outgoing port 25 is commonly blocked by default anyw

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 17 May 2006 12:02:34 + Brian M. Carlson wrote: > [For -legal people, the license is attached.] Thanks. [...] > Also, section 4 poses a major issue. If, for any reason, the Linux > kernel doesn't do something that Java requires, then we are obligated > to either fix it or inform ever

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Francesco Poli
On Wed, 17 May 2006 11:01:26 +0200 Michael Meskes wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 08:20:14AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > > Official packages of Sun Java are now available from the non-free > > section of Debian unstable, thanks to Sun releasing[11 Java under a > > new license: the Opera

Re: Why not making /sbin/sendmail a mantadory component for mail operation?

2006-05-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 09:42 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Wed, 17 May 2006, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: [snip] > What exactly is the problem with making a local MTA absolutely mandatory, > (as in anything that sends email either recommends or depends on > mail-transport-agent)? >

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-17 Thread Michal Čihař
On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:44:19 -0500 Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Interesting. b.d.o doesn't seem to be answering on port 25 though. Doesn't your provider block port 25? $ telnet bugs.debian.org 25 Trying 140.211.166.43... Connected to bugs.debian.org. Escape character is '^]'. 220 sp

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Bill Allombert
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 08:20:14AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > Official packages of Sun Java are now available from the non-free > section of Debian unstable, thanks to Sun releasing[11 Java under a new > license: the Operating System Distributor License for Java (DLJ)[2][3]. > This licen

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-17 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Gabor Gombas may or may not have written... [snip] > How do you want to handle one-arch-only binNMUs? binNMUs change > changelog.Debian.gz, so > - you can't upgrade just the architecture that was binNMUed without > changelog.Debian.gz becoming invalid for the other arches [snip] I

Re: debian and UDEV

2006-05-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 10:44:21AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Which is still stupid not to have in the kernel API as feedback from >> the event manager and have insmod optionaly block. > > For that to work you should make device discovery syn

Section of -dev packages

2006-05-17 Thread Jörg Sommer
Hi, I ever thought development packages classified by $NAME-dev belong to the Section devel or libdevel, but % apt-cache search -n .\*-dev\$ | sed 's/ -.*//' | \ xargs apt-cache show | grep \^Section: | sort -u Section: admin Section: comm Section: contrib/libdevel Section: devel Section: doc

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:14:24AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Multiarch (so far) does not allow the same path/file in 2 packages >> (with the exception of /usr/share/doc/ files) > > Hmm. How do you want to handle one-arch-only binNMUs? binNMUs

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:01:08AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> "Olaf van der Spek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Why do you think there's no compatible solution? >> >> Because basicaly all sources assume binaries go to /bin. You >> want t

Re: Why not making /sbin/sendmail a mantadory component for mail operation?

2006-05-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 17 May 2006, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 09:42:42AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > > An open outgoing port 25 is commonly blocked by default anywhere you > > have non-incompetent network management, unless you are on the > > business of selling full i

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-17 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> What about modifying it to work through something like an http POST? > I'm personally not too terribly interested in implementing an HTTP > access method for the BTS, because it makes it more easy for bug > submissions to be sent from people who can n

Re: Why not making /sbin/sendmail a mantadory component for mail operation?

2006-05-17 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 09:42:42AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > An open outgoing port 25 is commonly blocked by default anywhere you > have non-incompetent network management, unless you are on the > business of selling full internet uplinks for server hosting, or you > do business

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Carlos Correia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Florian Weimer escreveu: | * Jeroen van Wolffelaar: | | |>Official packages of Sun Java are now available from the non-free |>section of Debian unstable, thanks to Sun releasing[11 Java under a new |>license: the Operating System Distributor License f

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 10:34 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 00:01 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> "Olaf van der Spek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> > On 5/15/06, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: gnome 2 gnucash into unstable

2006-05-17 Thread Ondrej Sury
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 12:12 -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! > > and then apt doesn't run, and instead prints: > > E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes pbuilder login --save-after-login [...] # apt-get install gnupg

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Emmanuel le Chevoir
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Florian Weimer a écrit : > * Jeroen van Wolffelaar: > >> Official packages of Sun Java are now available from the non-free >> section of Debian unstable, thanks to Sun releasing[11 Java under a new >> license: the Operating System Distributor License

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 10:41 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 00:24 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > >> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 08:44 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > >> >> On

Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email

2006-05-17 Thread Ron Johnson
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 11:35 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 07:58:52PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 19:21 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: [snip] > Except, this is _doubling_ a question that was already asked somewhere else, > ie, a bug. The UNIX way o

Re: mdadm 2.4.1-1 ready for tests

2006-05-17 Thread Simon Huggins
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 01:11:43AM -0500, martin f krafft wrote: > Here's the changelog: > mdadm (2.4.1-1) experimental; urgency=low >* The "I'll kill that maintainer... uh, wait, it's me" release. Sorry for > the delay, here's the long awaited new upstream release, > which closes:

Re: debian and UDEV

2006-05-17 Thread Matt Zimmerman
The rest of the Linux distribution world is using udev with the current semantics and has not crumbled. If you don't like the current semantics, I understand, but that shouldn't stand in the way of its adoption. -- - mdz -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubs

Bug#367654: ITP: gavl -- Gmerlin Audio Video Library

2006-05-17 Thread Free Ekanayaka
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Free Ekanayaka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: gavl Version : 0.2.4 Upstream Author : Burkhard Plaum * URL : http://gmerlin.sf.net * License : GPL Description : Gmerlin Audio Video Library Gavl is short for Gm

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Hi Jeroen, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > Users requiring the complete functionality of Sun Java will find > that the Java 5 JRE and JDK can be installed by adding the non-free > component to their APT configuration. For now, this applies only to > users of unstable/sid, but will the packages are

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-17 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:14:24AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Wait a second. How do you create the dir when the file already exists? There was quite some talk on linux-kernel about 'every-file-is-a-directory' approaches when Reiserfs 4 was released. Some said they'd like to see this fea

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-17 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 06:02:58PM +0200, Romain Beauxis wrote: > Few things that I see: > -- FUSE goes throught userland <-> kernel <-> Userland so it: > ** May be an overhead for all /usr/bin calls. Sure. Every feature has a price. In reality I expect the dentry cache and the page cache takes c

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Michael Meskes
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 02:13:31PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > Did you read the accompanying FAQ? Question 12 addresses your concern. > http://download.java.net/dlj/DLJ-FAQ-v1.1.txt I did, but I wasn't sure if that FAQ has any legal meaning. I have problems seeing that the FAQ answer fits with

Why not making /sbin/sendmail a mantadory component for mail operation?

2006-05-17 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 17 May 2006, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > which results in "smtphost bugs.debian.org" in the conffile. Maybe the > default to the MTA question could be "N" instead. An open outgoing port 25 is commonly blocked by default anywhere you have non-incompetent network management, unless you are

Re: Mass bug filing: failure to use invoke-rc.d when required

2006-05-17 Thread Brian M. Carlson
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 09:19 +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote: > On Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:59 AM, Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:53:39AM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > >> ti, 2006-05-16 kello 09:53 +0200, Bas Zoetekouw kirjoitti: > [...] > >>> AFAIK, vi

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 11:01 +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > Could someone please explain to me why paragraph 2(f) does not pose a > problem? I couldn't find ANY discussion about the license on Debian legal > which surprises me a little bit, but then maybe I just missed the > relevant parts of the li

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Brian M. Carlson
[For -legal people, the license is attached.] On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 11:01 +0200, Michael Meskes wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 08:20:14AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > > Official packages of Sun Java are now available from the non-free > > section of Debian unstable, thanks to Sun releas

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Florian Weimer
* Jeroen van Wolffelaar: > Official packages of Sun Java are now available from the non-free > section of Debian unstable, thanks to Sun releasing[11 Java under a new > license: the Operating System Distributor License for Java (DLJ)[2][3]. This license requires that we remove all other Java impl

Re: Creation of custom "configured" packages?

2006-05-17 Thread cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 08:33, Marc Haber wrote: > On Tue, 16 May 2006 15:09:37 +0200, "cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >How so? As an admin you can always comment out any conf.d file > > completely if you don't want what is in there. After which dpkg will > > come wit

Bug#367628: ITP: thunar-archive-plugin -- Archive plugin for the Thunar file manager.

2006-05-17 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Xfce Maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: thunar-archive-plugin Version : 0.1.2 Upstream Author : Benedikt Meurer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://foo-projects.org/~benny/projects/thunar-archive-plugin/ * Lic

Bug#367631: ITP: thunar-media-tags-plugin -- Media tags plugin for the Thunar file manager.

2006-05-17 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Debian Xfce Maintainers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: thunar-media-tags-plugin Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Jannis Pohlmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://thunar.xfce.org/pwiki/projects/thunar-media-tags-plugin *

Re: I want to modify the gnome panel deb package

2006-05-17 Thread Brian M. Carlson
On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 02:44 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Indraveni wrote: [snip] > I notice that you have asked lots of questions on the debian-user and > debian-devel lists. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but you > may wany to consider hiring a Debian consultant [0] to help the

Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email

2006-05-17 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 07:58:52PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 19:21 +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > > >> The point is that they could if the wanted to. And if they did, it > > >> would work for _all_ programs, not just particular perl scripts that > > >> happen to use som

Re: Moving GFDL documentation to non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 10:20:17AM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: > Hi. I'm just a lowly user with a bandwidth problem. > Certainly was a shock to get back from town to find the documentation > gone from the debs I brought back. > However, I am to make one last trip to town so it's my one shot chance >

Re: Sun Java available from non-free

2006-05-17 Thread Michael Meskes
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 08:20:14AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote: > Official packages of Sun Java are now available from the non-free > section of Debian unstable, thanks to Sun releasing[11 Java under a new > license: the Operating System Distributor License for Java (DLJ)[2][3]. > This licen

Re: I want to modify the gnome panel deb package

2006-05-17 Thread Arjan Oosting
Op wo, 17-05-2006 te 06:31 +0100, schreef Indraveni: > Hi, > > we are working for a distro which is using debian pacakges. By > default the gnome panel is having no colour. I want to change the look > and feel of the panel, Applications menu backgroud color, Window title > background color..,etc

Re: Creation of custom "configured" packages?

2006-05-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, 16 May 2006 15:09:37 +0200, "cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>How so? As an admin you can always comment out any conf.d file completely >>if you don't want what is in there. After which dpkg will come with the >>usual prom

Re: debian and UDEV

2006-05-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:19:35AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > You don't need to wait for a particular event to be finished processing; >> > instead you should wait for the resource you actua

Re: reportbug defaults [Re: Bug#367200: ITP: libemail-send-perl -- Simply Sending Email]

2006-05-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 00:24 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 08:44 -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: >> >> On Tue, 16 May 2006, Ron Johnson wrote: >> >> > On the "home desktop" reportbug

Re: reportbug defaults

2006-05-17 Thread Florian Weimer
* Marco d'Itri: > On May 16, "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Except that many ISPs now block outbound port 25 (at least on >> consumer-level service), except for what is relayed through their mail >> servers. > Agreed. It's not reasonable to expect that port 25 connections fr

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-17 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:01:08AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > "Olaf van der Spek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Why do you think there's no compatible solution? > > Because basicaly all sources assume binaries go to /bin. You > want to break that. Also a lot of scripts expect binaries

Re: multiarch status update

2006-05-17 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 2006-05-17 at 00:01 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> "Olaf van der Spek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > On 5/15/06, Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> >> >> > On Sun, Ma

Re: Mass bug filing: failure to use invoke-rc.d when required

2006-05-17 Thread Adam D. Barratt
On Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:59 AM, Lionel Elie Mamane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:53:39AM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: >> ti, 2006-05-16 kello 09:53 +0200, Bas Zoetekouw kirjoitti: [...] >>> AFAIK, vilolating policy always waarent a serious bug: [...] >> This is not wha

The EDOS project: request for comments on a Debian Query Language

2006-05-17 Thread Berke Durak
Dear Debian users and workers, The EDOS project (http://www.edos-project.org/) is a research project funded by the European Union and focusing on fundamental aspects of free software processes such as distribution, quality assurance and dependency management. As the WP2 (Dependencies Management)

Re: debian and UDEV

2006-05-17 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 17, Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It may be possible to check that all pending udev events have completed. It is possible to check the status of individual events by looking at the queue, but it's not obvious why people would want to do this instead of using RUN rules. -- ci

Re: gnome 2 gnucash into unstable

2006-05-17 Thread Henning Glawe
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:12:30PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > /usr/sbin/pbuilder update --override-config --configfile /etc/pbuilderrc.sid > > Ok, this gets me a good sid chroot. But I can't build with it. When > I try to build, using, say

Re: Mass bug filing: failure to use invoke-rc.d when required

2006-05-17 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:53:39AM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > ti, 2006-05-16 kello 09:53 +0200, Bas Zoetekouw kirjoitti: >> Lars wrote: The usage is mendantory (aka a must clause) but the bugs are not RC? This does not fit. >>> It violates policy, but not in a way enumerated on >>>

Re: I want to modify the gnome panel deb package

2006-05-17 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Indraveni wrote: > Hi, > > we are working for a distro which is using debian pacakges. By default > the gnome panel is having no colour. I want to change the look and feel > of the panel, Applications menu backgroud color, Window title background > color..,etc. Just to make it look diferent with

Re: Creation of custom "configured" packages?

2006-05-17 Thread Marc Haber
On Tue, 16 May 2006 15:09:37 +0200, "cobaco (aka Bart Cornelis)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >How so? As an admin you can always comment out any conf.d file completely >if you don't want what is in there. After which dpkg will come with the >usual prompt at package upgrade about the conf-file being

Re: debian and UDEV

2006-05-17 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, May 17, 2006 at 12:19:35AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > You don't need to wait for a particular event to be finished processing; > > instead you should wait for the resource you actually need to become > > available, e.g. a device no