Re: Philipp Matthias Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIA?

2006-04-25 Thread Philipp Matthias Hahn
Hi! On Wed, Apr 19, 2006 at 02:57:14PM +0200, Christoph Berg wrote: > Philipp, are you around? xosd as a (fairly new) RC bug, do you think > you'll be able to address that in the near future? Yes, I'm still around, but I'm currently busy with other things. Regarding xosd: I'm not the main upstrea

Bug#364848: general: please have package short descriptions say what the package REALLY does

2006-04-25 Thread Don Armstrong
reassign 364848 ndiswrapper retitle 364848 please provide better short discriptions for ndiswrapper severity 364848 minor thanks On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i think it will help to require short descriptions to make sense to > anybody who knows only about the most widely used

Processed: Re: Bug#364848: general: please have package short descriptions say what the package REALLY does

2006-04-25 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > reassign 364848 ndiswrapper Bug#364848: general: please have package short descriptions say what the package REALLY does Bug reassigned from package `general' to `ndiswrapper'. > retitle 364848 please provide better short discriptions for ndiswrapper

Bug#364848: general: please have package short descriptions say what the package REALLY does

2006-04-25 Thread gambarimasu+reportbug
Package: general Severity: normal i think it will help to require short descriptions to make sense to anybody who knows only about the most widely used terms. often new packages are added like the following. i do not mean to pick on ndiswrapper at all; it was just the most recent example. this

Re: Bug#364652: ITP: squid3 -- Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache) version 3

2006-04-25 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 03:21:59AM +0200, Luigi Gangitano wrote: > Il giorno 25/apr/06, alle ore 15:26, Wouter Verhelst ha scritto: > >On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 02:19:12PM +0200, Luigi Gangitano wrote: > >>Whould you really use your production machine to test some > >>experimental software? > > > >Wo

Re: O: Gnus -- A versatile News and mailing list reader for Emacsen.

2006-04-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Jorgen Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Must we decide on a policy? Can't Manoj just package gnus-dfsg and > be done with it? Is that really such a big problem? > I think not. Amen. I can understand people disagreeing with Manoj's choice, but am completely mystified by having that disagre

Re: Archiving bugs with version info (Was: Re: Closing a bug vs. tagging wontfix)

2006-04-25 Thread Adam Borowski
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, Otavio Salvador wrote: "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: What about oldstable while it is supported? IMHO, would be good to have a way to check the bugs affecting each release, so in the current interface we might have a link for: Filter bugs affecting: -

Re: Bug#364652: ITP: squid3 -- Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache) version 3

2006-04-25 Thread Luigi Gangitano
Il giorno 25/apr/06, alle ore 15:26, Wouter Verhelst ha scritto: On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 02:19:12PM +0200, Luigi Gangitano wrote: Whould you really use your production machine to test some experimental software? Would you really install unstable on your production machine? No, and this is ex

Re: Possible conflict with XFree 4.5

2006-04-25 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, 24 Apr 2006, Gunnar Wolf wrote: gustavo halperin dijo [Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 01:40:42PM +0300]: I think that we have a problem when the common library between XFree and /usr/lib are update in /usr/lib. I assume that you're installing XFree86 4.5 by yourself, since it wasn't packaged for

Re: Archiving bugs with version info (Was: Re: Closing a bug vs. tagging wontfix)

2006-04-25 Thread Otavio Salvador
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Otavio Salvador wrote: >> >> What's the current consensus right now? >> >> IMHO, we should display every bug that still affect stable so we won't >> receive duplicated reports so often. >> > > What about oldstable while it is supported? IMHO,

Processed: Creating alternatives for keyword programs is not really policy

2006-04-25 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > reassign 363486 general Bug#363486: dpkg: [update-alternatives] New categories for: WORD, EXCEL, MEDIA-PLAYER etc. Bug reassigned from package `debian-policy' to `general'. > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance.

Creating alternatives for keyword programs is not really policy

2006-04-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
reassign 363486 general thanks Hi, This is a cure proposal, though not one I would expect to see realized. Anyway, someone has to decide which program can call itself "Excel", see if it can do it legally and not violate trademark law, and then implement this for the selected package.

Re: Archiving bugs with version info (Was: Re: Closing a bug vs. tagging wontfix)

2006-04-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Otavio Salvador wrote: > > What's the current consensus right now? > > IMHO, we should display every bug that still affect stable so we won't > receive duplicated reports so often. > What about oldstable while it is supported? -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto

Re: Archiving bugs with version info (Was: Re: Closing a bug vs. tagging wontfix)

2006-04-25 Thread Otavio Salvador
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Even if it's with versioning information? It would be usefull to keep it >> until the buggy version is available in the archive, what do others >> think? > > Archiving is currently disabled until the exact mechanism of its > operation with versioning is

Re: Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-25 Thread Filipus Klutiero
I'm interested in a "utnubu desktop/minimal/standard" now in sid so you see my metapackage upload. With Etch, i would like to add a "utnubu desktop task" yes, but as i pointed out above it seems that we will need more than a simple task. I can help with code if -boot agree. What do you intend t

Bug#364795: ITP: gwhere -- Manage a catalog of removable media contents

2006-04-25 Thread Alejandro Rios P.
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Alejandro Rios P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: gwhere Version : 0.2.0 Upstream Author : Sébastien LECACHEUR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.gwhere.org/ * License : GPL Description : Manage a catalog o

Re: O: Gnus -- A versatile News and mailing list reader for Emacsen.

2006-04-25 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > For me a changed .orig.tar.gz means I no longer can easily verify what > exactly is changed. So I have to not only to download the original This is a bug. debian/copyright might be in the diff, but it still needs to describe all changes to upstream.

Re: License nitpicking

2006-04-25 Thread Frank Küster
Frank Küster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl Berry) wrote: > >> Sigh. > > Oh, well. There are more intersting things in the world to care about. Sorry, this was a mistake, a funny effect of my mail setup. Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protei

Re: License nitpicking

2006-04-25 Thread Frank Küster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl Berry) wrote: > Sigh. Oh, well. There are more intersting things in the world to care about. Regards, Frank -- Frank Küster Single Molecule Spectroscopy, Protein Folding @ Inst. f. Biochemie, Univ. Zürich Debian Developer (teTeX)

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-25 Thread Mike Bird
On Tue, 2006-04-25 at 08:48, Joey Hess wrote: > FWIW, I advocated using packages with collections of recommends as task > packages when the task system was being designed, but the idea was > discarded for various reasons. You can find the full details of that > decision in the threads starting here

Re: AMD64: etch and uploads

2006-04-25 Thread Jérôme Marant
Goswin von Brederlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If I say no and it fails will you kill me? Of course not :-) > There are always risks on updates. Let's go! -- Jérôme Marant

Re: O: Gnus -- A versatile News and mailing list reader for Emacsen.

2006-04-25 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > No. But there are user expectations, and when you talk about > source package for Gnus, the assumption is that the orig,tar.gz comes > from the FSF, and the debian changes are in the diff.gz. There are > debian specific changes to Gnus, a

64bit kernel for i386, apt-get-multiarch - poor mans multiarch

2006-04-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hi, I've been working on wrappers for apt and dpkg-deb to get some resemblance of multiarch that can still make it for etch. The first thing I made to work is installing amd64 kernels on i386 and anyone interested is welcome to try a very alpha release: ftp://mrvn.homeip.net/apt-get-multiarch/ B

Re: O: Gnus -- A versatile News and mailing list reader for Emacsen.

2006-04-25 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060425 18:09]: > On what basis are you making this decision? I explained that > it is important, for debugging and development reasons for the free > software community, to be able to easily build upstream versions to > see how it compares to the d

Re: O: Gnus -- A versatile News and mailing list reader for Emacsen.

2006-04-25 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060425 15:59]: > > Such a stripped down archive will most likely not have a working > > build system and some stale references to stuff no longer contained, > > which can and has to be cleaned up in the .diff.gz (at least for the > > stuff relevant stuff, no

Re: O: Gnus -- A versatile News and mailing list reader for Emacsen.

2006-04-25 Thread Jorgen Schaefer
"Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Should Debian enforce a policy here? > > There is a Developer's reference quite explicit about that topic > and all those packages beside his. I guess you refer to "6.7.8 Best practices for orig.tar.gz files". This describes one way to accomplish

Re: O: Gnus -- A versatile News and mailing list reader for Emacsen.

2006-04-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 25 Apr 2006, Bernhard R. Link verbalised: > * Jorgen Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060425 14:34]: >> The discussion is about whether, after the removal of data from an >> upstream .tar.gz, it is ok for it to be still named ".orig.tar.gz" >> (with a version that does not exist upstream). > > Th

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-25 Thread Joey Hess
Henning Makholm wrote: > Can tasksel tasks be manipulated programmatically with the same > apt/aptitude inferfaces that metapackages can? This question does not have a yes or no answer, the situation is rather more complex than that. FWIW, I advocated using packages with collections of recommends

Re: O: Gnus -- A versatile News and mailing list reader for Emacsen.

2006-04-25 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Jorgen Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060425 14:34]: > The discussion is about whether, after the removal of data from an > upstream .tar.gz, it is ok for it to be still named ".orig.tar.gz" > (with a version that does not exist upstream). The question I was answering was about what I consider "

Re: O: Gnus -- A versatile News and mailing list reader for Emacsen.

2006-04-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On 25 Apr 2006, Bernhard R. Link outgrape: > * James Vega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060424 18:36]: >>> On the other hand a different source package name has also a >>> specific meaning. It means it is a different source package, which >>> means it is a differnt upstream or a different package. Unless y

Re: Bug#364652: ITP: squid3 -- Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache) version 3

2006-04-25 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 02:19:12PM +0200, Luigi Gangitano wrote: > Whould you really use your production machine to test some > experimental software? Would you really install unstable on your production machine? -- Fun will now commence -- Seven Of Nine, "Ashes to Ashes", stardate 53679.4

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-25 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Apr 25, Gabor Gombas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What stops udev from looking up the index before invoking any of the > rules? That avoids the races and does not require kernel support at all. Nothing, it's available as SYSFS{ifindex}. What I do not understand is how you would use it. -- cia

Re: Bug#364652: ITP: squid3 -- Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache) version 3

2006-04-25 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Tue, Apr 25, 2006 at 02:14:46PM +0200, Luigi Gangitano wrote: > Because it's not a short term package. It will be there for at least > 6 months. Just as a reference; Samba 4 is in exactly the same situation, and it is handled in experimental. /* Steinar */ -- Homepage: http://www.sesse.net/

Re: Bug#363598: udev should conflict with ifrename

2006-04-25 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 02:16:07PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Too bad that it is not what the kernel reports in the hotplug events and > that there are no symlinks in sysfs to access a kobject by its ifindex. > Sending a patch RFC to LKML would be the first step to improve this. What stops udev

Bug#364746: ITP: libtest-longstring-perl -- Tests strings for equality, with more helpful failures

2006-04-25 Thread Krzysztof Krzyzaniak (eloy)
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Krzysztof Krzyzaniak (eloy)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libtest-longstring-perl Version : 0.09 Upstream Author : Rafael Garcia-Suarez * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~rgarcia/Test-LongString-0.09/ * License : Per

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-25 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 07:56:18PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: >> On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 19:42, Steve Langasek wrote: >> > Having the metapackage kicked out of testing and having the release team >> > refuse to help you get it back into the release because

Re: O: Gnus -- A versatile News and mailing list reader for Emacsen.

2006-04-25 Thread Jorgen Schaefer
"Bernhard R. Link" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > - upstream includes "genuinely useless cruft" which removal > causes "significant space savings" (Imagine some 20k tool > containing 50M screenshots of how cool it is once you got > it compiled) > -> repack it removing that stuff >

Re: Bug#364652: ITP: squid3 -- Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache) version 3

2006-04-25 Thread Luigi Gangitano
Il giorno 25/apr/06, alle ore 07:12, Norbert Tretkowski ha scritto: squid 3.0 is not yet 'stable'. Squid 2.5 is still the stable series. Why not just uploading squid 3.0 to experimental? Because it's not a short term package. It will be there for at least 6 months. And experimental is no

Re: Bug#364652: ITP: squid3 -- Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache) version 3

2006-04-25 Thread Sven Mueller
Luigi Gangitano wrote on 25/04/2006 14:19: > > Il giorno 25/apr/06, alle ore 13:57, Sven Mueller ha scritto: >>>Luigi Gangitano wrote on 25/04/2006 01:32: >>> So I'm packaging Squid-3.0 from new sources (using CDBS for the first time, great!). The resulting packages will be named 'squid3,

Re: Bug#364652: ITP: squid3 -- Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache) version 3

2006-04-25 Thread Luigi Gangitano
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Il giorno 25/apr/06, alle ore 13:57, Sven Mueller ha scritto: Luigi Gangitano wrote on 25/04/2006 01:32: So I'm packaging Squid-3.0 from new sources (using CDBS for the first time, great!). The resulting packages will be named 'squid3, squid3- com

Re: Bug#364652: ITP: squid3 -- Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache) version 3

2006-04-25 Thread Sven Mueller
Luigi Gangitano wrote on 25/04/2006 01:32: > So I'm packaging Squid-3.0 from new sources (using CDBS for the first > time, great!). The resulting packages will be named 'squid3, squid3- > common, squid3-client, squid3-cgi' and will conflict with the > existing squid packages. Why do you conf

Re: Bug#364652: ITP: squid3 -- Internet Object Cache (WWW proxy cache) version 3

2006-04-25 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Luigi Gangitano said: > > Il giorno 24/apr/06, alle ore 21:54, Stephen Gran ha scritto: > >> This is the new development version, totally rewritten in C++ > >> with the > >> latest features like ICAP added. > > > > Is a new source package really needed? Is there n

Re: Debian Light Desktop - meta package

2006-04-25 Thread Jon Dowland
At 1144985401 past the epoch, Keegan Quinn wrote: > * Full desktop (or "Heavy" maybe?) >* KDE >* GNOME > * Light desktop (or "Advanced" maybe?) No complaints so far > * openbox > * fluxbox > * etc. No - if someone knows which window manager they want they're sufficient

Re: O: Gnus -- A versatile News and mailing list reader for Emacsen.

2006-04-25 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* James Vega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060424 18:36]: > > On the other hand a different source package name has also a specific > > meaning. It means it is a different source package, which means it is > > a differnt upstream or a different package. Unless you want to fork > > the package or add other f

[OT] plonk reports are off-topic.

2006-04-25 Thread Charles Plessy
On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 07:45:21PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote : > > *plonk*. Dear all, dear Manoj, Since the use of killfiles reflects the personnal opinion of the person who is using it about the person which will be ignored, I think that informing the thousands of subscribers of the

Re: Bug#364609: O: Gnus -- A versatile News and mailing list reader for Emacsen.

2006-04-25 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 04:51:48PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On 24 Apr 2006, Thijs Kinkhorst uttered the following: > > > On Mon, April 24, 2006 15:39, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> new upload _now_. I feel uncomfortable acceding to practices I > >> consider unethical, and I lack the motivat

Re: utnubu-desktop for the masses

2006-04-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 07:56:18PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > On Sun, 2006-04-23 at 19:42, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 23, 2006 at 06:59:41PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote: > > > * "Clogging Britney" is subjective. > > Having the metapackage kicked out of testing and having the release team > >

Re: Guidelines for packaging projects on Alioth

2006-04-25 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 11:36:47PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Mon, 24 Apr 2006, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > Those cases can be treated differently than failures due to other > > > reasons, though. > > > > Uh, yes; and they are. But that's not the point. > > > > The point really is that b

Rebirth of Status of Maintainer's packages and bugs and more

2006-04-25 Thread Gürkan Sengün
Hello I was missing Edds' karma page [1] when it wasn't updated anymore. But many months later also Kitames' [2] package status page [3] disappeared. That was too much for my heart and I made my own combining the two things, trowing in homepage URL, IRC nickname and cute photos of your Debian Mai