Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 10:29:30PM +0800, Enrico Zini wrote: > On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 02:53:52PM +0200, Linas Zvirblis wrote: > > A hypothetical example: I decide to found a debian-geology team and I am > > not a Debian Developer. So what now? Should I help debian-med to become > > a DD? But I

Re: Debian for desktop - gnome in usnstable/experimantal more stable than in testing ?

2006-01-02 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 06:14:09PM -0500, Benjamin Mesing wrote: > However I have often heard complaints about broken dependencies and > broken software in testing. Sure. Testing isn't perfect, it won't guarantee your software is bug free; and furthermore it changes daily, which means which bits a

Re: Experiment: poll on "switching to vim-tiny for standard vi?"

2006-01-02 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 01:59:46AM +0100, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Anthony Towns [Tue, 03 Jan 2006 07:55:06 +1000]: > > I still think the vi provided by vim-tiny needs to default to compatible > > mode and no-auto-indenting; but afaik it still doesn't. > > > If you agree with the change, do Stefano

Re: Debian for desktop - gnome in usnstable/experimantal more stable than in testing ?

2006-01-02 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Jan 03, 2006 at 06:29:00AM +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > ma, 2006-01-02 kello 22:16 -0500, Benjamin Mesing kirjoitti: > > But for example I can speak for my package (packagesearch) which broke, > > when xterm changed how it handles command line arguments. Of course I > > didn't knew this b

Re: Experiment: poll on "switching to vim-tiny for standard vi?"

2006-01-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 11:47:05AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 23-Dec-05, 11:54 (CST), Anthony Towns wrote: > > The size of base matters a little, but it's not an "every byte is > > sacred" situation. > > Cheers, aj (base maintainer, for those playing along at home) > So, it seems that

Re: [Listmaster] Seeking petsupermarket

2006-01-02 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 03 January 2006 00:28, Andrew Vaughan wrote: >On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 09:25, Cord Beermann wrote: >> Someone who is subscribed to d-devel forwards the mails to >> petsupermarket. petsupermarket itself is not subscribed to any of >> our mailinglists. >> >> If you have seen those c-r-responses

Re: [Listmaster] Seeking petsupermarket

2006-01-02 Thread Andrew Vaughan
On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 09:25, Cord Beermann wrote: > > Someone who is subscribed to d-devel forwards the mails to > petsupermarket. petsupermarket itself is not subscribed to any of our > mailinglists. > > If you have seen those c-r-responses outside of the debian-lists, or > in the last days on other

Re: Debian for desktop - gnome in usnstable/experimantal more stable than in testing ?

2006-01-02 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2006-01-02 kello 22:16 -0500, Benjamin Mesing kirjoitti: > I admit I was imprecise, often it are conflicts (usually through library > stuff) that prevent packages from being installable when you have > certain other installed, even though you would want both. > But as mentioned I am only repeat

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Andrew Vaughan
On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 11:52, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Given the choice between having to double check work done by > potentially inexperienced folks, and ensuring that the package is > done by people who can do some of the double checking on their own, > and make less errors, I'd go for th

installing gallery

2006-01-02 Thread Alejandro Bonilla Beeche
Hi, This should not be an email for this ML, but anyway, I think this version of gallery could be kind of broken as I have used the Sid one and works like a charm. This is a little box that I have with gallery and my web services. I think it most be apache2 the one giving a hard time here.

Re: Debian for desktop - gnome in usnstable/experimantal more stable than in testing ?

2006-01-02 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello > How on Earth would that be allowed into testing? I can imagine Serious > bugs slipping trough (because most are reported as Normal, after all), > but broken dependencies? I admit I was imprecise, often it are conflicts (usually through library stuff) that prevent packages from being inst

Re: [Listmaster] Seeking petsupermarket

2006-01-02 Thread Sebastian Tennant
Cord Beermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hallo! Du (Linas Zvirblis) hast geschrieben: > >>>BTW, Who da hell is some AntiSpam UOL? Everytime that I send an email to >>>debian-devel that stupid machine sends me an email. Is there a way to >>>block? >> >>Yes, the [EMAIL PROTECTED] is back. You wil

Re: New version of kernel-package to create image packages using debconf

2006-01-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 21:49:38 +0900, Junichi Uekawa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hi, >> A new version of kernel-package is imminent, it is undergoing boot >> camp out in experimental. > Congratulations; nice to see some hot action :) > I've been pondering on using kernel-package to generate debug

Re: Experiment: poll on "switching to vim-tiny for standard vi?"

2006-01-02 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Anthony Towns [Tue, 03 Jan 2006 07:55:06 +1000]: > I still think the vi provided by vim-tiny needs to default to compatible > mode and no-auto-indenting; but afaik it still doesn't. > > If you agree with the change, do Stefano and I need to do anything > > other than swap vi alternative priorit

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 23:59:41 +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Manoj Srivastava wrote: >>> I suspect a similar system for Debian might increase visibility >>> and commitment from a large set of users. >> >> Lacking quality control of the input, I am not at all convinced >> tha

Re: Experiment: poll on "switching to vim-tiny for standard vi?"

2006-01-02 Thread Anthony Towns
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 11:47:05AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 23-Dec-05, 11:54 (CST), Anthony Towns wrote: > > The size of base matters a little, but it's not an "every byte is > > sacred" situation. > > Cheers, aj (base maintainer, for those playing along at home) > So, it seems that so

Re: Debian for desktop - gnome in usnstable/experimantal more stable than in testing ?

2006-01-02 Thread Linas Zvirblis
Benjamin Mesing wrote: However I have often heard complaints about broken dependencies and broken software in testing. From what I have heard, I would not like to go with testing for my system. How on Earth would that be allowed into testing? I can imagine Serious bugs slipping trough (becaus

Bug#345715: ITP: k3dsurf -- tool for mathematical surfaces

2006-01-02 Thread Steffen Joeris
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Steffen Joeris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: k3dsurf Version : 0.5.4 Upstream Author : Abderrahman Taha ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) * URL : http://k3dsurf.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Description : tool for mathema

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> I suspect a similar system for Debian might increase visibility and >> commitment from a large set of users. > > Lacking quality control of the input, I am not at all > convinced that this is desirable. You know the "old adage of computer > men", GIGO. All the

Re: Experiment: poll on "switching to vim-tiny for standard vi?"

2006-01-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 11:47:05AM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > If you agree with the change, do Stefano and I need to do anything > other than swap vi alternative priorities and swap important<->optional > priorities? On my TODO list I also have to split the vim configuration files in /etc/vim

Re: Debian for desktop - gnome in usnstable/experimantal more stable than in testing ?

2006-01-02 Thread Benjamin Mesing
Hello > Secondly, you do not seem to understand how Debian works. "Unstable" is > called "Unstable" for a reason. It is the first stage of public testing. > Renaming it to "Latest" would not only falsely describe what it is, but > would simply be not true. If you want the latest, you download a

Re: Debian for desktop - gnome in usnstable/experimantal more stable than in testing ?

2006-01-02 Thread Linas Zvirblis
Hello, First of all, I would like to note that I have never experienced anything like that with my Debian desktop. The only time I have witnessed such devastating effects was when mixing packages from various distributions. Yes, that was my own fault. I knew it could happen and it did happen.

[Listmaster] Seeking petsupermarket (was: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers)

2006-01-02 Thread Cord Beermann
Hallo! Du (Linas Zvirblis) hast geschrieben: >>BTW, Who da hell is some AntiSpam UOL? Everytime that I send an email to >>debian-devel that stupid machine sends me an email. Is there a way to >>block? > >Yes, the [EMAIL PROTECTED] is back. You will just have to >block this address on your side u

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Neil McGovern] > Sounds like an idea that's being thrown around at the moment: > http://wiki.debian.org/FriendsOfDebian Ah, right. Very good idea indeed. :) That page even had a few more of those. Perhaps we should just go ahead and implement it . :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROT

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Neil McGovern
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 07:11:26PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > Your ideas reminds me of the Mandriva Club system, where users can [Snip] Sounds like an idea that's being thrown around at the moment: http://wiki.debian.org/FriendsOfDebian :P Neil -- __ .` `. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Debian for desktop - gnome in usnstable/experimantal more stable than in testing ?

2006-01-02 Thread Radosław Warowny
Hi I would like to share some interesting experience about using debian as desktop system. I have been using debian as my desktop system for several years. Lately, becouse I gained access to internet, i upgraded my system to the latest testing distribution of debian (etch, with the Gnome 2.10 envi

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 09:21:43 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 16:06:59 +0100, Frans Pop wrote >> On Monday 02 January 2006 15:42, Andreas Schuldei wrote: >> > so should we try to compile such a list and advertise it better, >> > perhaps from the startpage on

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 19:11:26 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I suspect a similar system for Debian might increase visibility and > commitment from a large set of users. Lacking quality control of the input, I am not at all convinced that this is desirable. You kn

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Linas Zvirblis
Alejandro Bonilla wrote: BTW, Who da hell is some AntiSpam UOL? Everytime that I send an email to debian-devel that stupid machine sends me an email. Is there a way to block? Yes, the [EMAIL PROTECTED] is back. You will just have to block this address on your side until listmaster takes care

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Alejandro Bonilla
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 13:55:01 -0600, Alejandro Bonilla wrote > On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:34:31 +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote > > On Monday 02 January 2006 16.21, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: BTW, Who da hell is some AntiSpam UOL? Everytime that I send an email to debian-devel that stupid machine sends me a

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Alejandro Bonilla
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 20:34:31 +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote > On Monday 02 January 2006 16.21, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: > [...] > > I could support or maintain some packages if I could be teached once, and > > if the mentoring process to get ownership of one package wouldn't be a > > pain. I once wa

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 02 January 2006 16.21, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: [...] > I could support or maintain some packages if I could be teached once, and > if the mentoring process to get ownership of one package wouldn't be a > pain. I once wanted to make a package for the ieee80211 stack or another > small pac

Re: udev event completion order

2006-01-02 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Monday 02 January 2006 14.48, Gabor Gombas wrote: > On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 07:29:16PM +, Darren Salt wrote: > > I'd call that broken, just as I consider udev (076) to be broken given > > that it breaks expectations wrt device naming. (Here, it swapped the > > names of the DVD drives (driver

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Rudi Effe
Am Sonntag 01 Januar 2006 19:46 schrieb Joseph Michael Smidt: > h) Advocacy I have given to the open source community. Dear Joseph, happy new year to you all. In this matter, I'd like to stress the importance to gain the youth, i.e. pupils, for free software, i.e. GNU/Linux. I plea to support a

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 07:11:26PM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > I suspect a similar system for Debian might increase visibility and > commitment from a large set of users. With the exception of the web forums and most of the commercial stuff that does sound rather like debian.org. -- "Yo

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Andreas Fester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > My impression is that the process of becoming a developer is very hard, > both for the applicant but also for the Application Managers. If someone > contributed to the project continously for a long time, then decides to > apply for New Maintainer which

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
Your ideas reminds me of the Mandriva Club system, where users can come together and show their commitment and involvement in Madriva (previously Mandrake Linux). The site is supposed to be http://club.mandriva.com/>, but I'm unable to get any response from it. The google cache gave me this intr

Re: Experiment: poll on "switching to vim-tiny for standard vi?"

2006-01-02 Thread Steve Greenland
On 23-Dec-05, 11:54 (CST), Anthony Towns wrote: > The size of base matters a little, but it's not an "every byte is > sacred" situation. > > Cheers, aj (base maintainer, for those playing along at home) Anthony: So, it seems that so far as Stefano (vim maintainer) and I (nvi maintainer) are c

Bug#345665: ITP: cl-kpax -- A Common Lisp Application Framework

2006-01-02 Thread Peter Van Eynde
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Peter Van Eynde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: cl-kpax Version : 20051222 Upstream Author : Sven Van Caekenberghe * URL : http://homepage.mac.com/svc/kpax/ * License : LLGPL Description : A Common Lisp Applicati

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 02 Jan 2006, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: > package, but NO. I had to know someone, that the someone had a developer > friend that would actually trust me, to ever be able to try posting something. Supposedly, one post to debian-mentors should have gotten you started. I guess the "How can you

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Joseph Michael Smidt
Well I decided to grab the bull by the horns. Margarita Manterola had this to say: So, rounding it up, if you have ideas as to how to get more people to help Debian, your best course of action is to _go do it_. Create a wiki page, blog or get someone to blog about it on Planet, etc. No one is g

Bug#345663: ITP: cl-s-http-server -- A Minimal Standalone Common Lisp HTTP Server

2006-01-02 Thread Peter Van Eynde
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Peter Van Eynde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: cl-s-http-server Version : 20051218 Upstream Author : Sven Van Caekenberghe * URL : http://homepage.mac.com/svc/s-http-server/ * License : LLGPL Description : A Min

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Alejandro Bonilla
On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 11:22:00 -0500, Kevin B. McCarty wrote > Alejandro Bonilla wrote: > > > I would love to help, but the fact is that people that know how to do > > these things like they know the palm of their hands, don't share > > information or actually show people how to do things. > > Ther

Bug#345661: ITP: cl-s-utils -- A collection of Common Lisp utilities

2006-01-02 Thread Peter Van Eynde
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Peter Van Eynde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: cl-s-utils Version : 20051212 Upstream Author : Sven Van Caekenberghe * URL : http://homepage.mac.com/svc/s-utils/ * License : LLGPL Description : A collection of C

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Alejandro Bonilla
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 17:10:52 +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote > * Alejandro Bonilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-01-02 09:21:43]: > > > On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 16:06:59 +0100, Frans Pop wrote > > > On Monday 02 January 2006 15:42, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > > > > so should we try to compile such a list and ad

Bug#345658: ITP: cl-s-sysdeps -- An Abstraction Layer Over Platform Dependent Functionality

2006-01-02 Thread Peter Van Eynde
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Peter Van Eynde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: cl-s-sysdeps Version : 20051122 Upstream Author : Sven Van Caekenberghe * URL : http://homepage.mac.com/svc/s-sysdeps/ * License : LLGPL Description : An Abstractio

Re: No 2.6 kernels for 586 in Sarge and up

2006-01-02 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 02 janvier 2006 à 16:40 +0100, Jérôme Warnier a écrit : > I wonder why there is no 2.6 kernel package for 586 in Sarge while there > is for 2.4? > I can find 386-486-686 and k7, but no 586. AFAIK, this was done to reduce the (way too high) number of kernels. The performance improvement of

Re: No 2.6 kernels for 586 in Sarge and up

2006-01-02 Thread Andrew Vaughan
Hi On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 02:55, Frans Pop wrote: > On Monday 02 January 2006 16:40, Jérôme Warnier wrote: > > I wonder why there is no 2.6 kernel package for 586 in Sarge while > > there is for 2.4? > > I can find 386-486-686 and k7, but no 586. > > Try linux-{source,image,headers}. (on sarge, long

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Alejandro Bonilla wrote: > I would love to help, but the fact is that people that know how to do > these things like they know the palm of their hands, don't share > information or actually show people how to do things. There is plenty of documentation about how to get started in creating a Debia

Bug#345657: ITP: cl-s-base64 -- A Common Lisp implementation of Base64 Encoding/Decoding

2006-01-02 Thread Peter Van Eynde
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Peter Van Eynde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: cl-s-base64 Version : 20051102 Upstream Author : Sven Van Caekenberghe * URL : http://homepage.mac.com/svc/s-base64/ * License : LLGPL Description : A Common Lisp i

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Alejandro Bonilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-01-02 09:21:43]: > On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 16:06:59 +0100, Frans Pop wrote > > On Monday 02 January 2006 15:42, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > > > so should we try to compile such a list and advertise it better, > > > perhaps from the startpage on www.debian.or

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Alejandro Bonilla wrote: > On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 16:28:06 +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote >> On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 09:21:43AM -0600, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: >> > I could support or maintain some packages if I could be teached once, and >> > if >> > the mentoring process to get ownership of one

Re: Archive architecture qualification

2006-01-02 Thread Aurelien Jarno
On Sun, Jan 01, 2006 at 05:58:24PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Possibly doing it on the wiki at a page named something like : > > http://wiki.debian.org/ArchiveQualification/kfreebsd-i386 > > would be a good way to go. The page is in place for kfreebsd-i386. Bye, Aurelien -- .''`. Aure

Re: No 2.6 kernels for 586 in Sarge and up

2006-01-02 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 02 January 2006 16:40, Jérôme Warnier wrote: > I wonder why there is no 2.6 kernel package for 586 in Sarge while > there is for 2.4? > I can find 386-486-686 and k7, but no 586. Try linux-{source,image,headers}. pgpWpHgVmaU8B.pgp Description: PGP signature

No 2.6 kernels for 586 in Sarge and up

2006-01-02 Thread Jérôme Warnier
I wonder why there is no 2.6 kernel package for 586 in Sarge while there is for 2.4? I can find 386-486-686 and k7, but no 586. Regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Alejandro Bonilla
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006 16:28:06 +0100, Steinar H. Gunderson wrote > On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 09:21:43AM -0600, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: > > I could support or maintain some packages if I could be teached once, and if > > the mentoring process to get ownership of one package wouldn't be a pain. I > > onc

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 09:21:43AM -0600, Alejandro Bonilla wrote: > I could support or maintain some packages if I could be teached once, and if > the mentoring process to get ownership of one package wouldn't be a pain. I > once wanted to make a package for the ieee80211 stack or another small >

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Alejandro Bonilla
On Mon, 02 Jan 2006 16:06:59 +0100, Frans Pop wrote > On Monday 02 January 2006 15:42, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > > so should we try to compile such a list and advertise it better, > > perhaps from the startpage on www.debian.org? > > http://www.debian.org/devel/join/ seems more suited for that. >

Here are lions

2006-01-02 Thread Sebastian Tennant
Hi all, happy new year and all that. Just rolled my own 2.6.12 on a 700 MHz Pentium III, with everything I need built-in, and very little that I don't. Boot time from button press to text console, via a grub default confirm, 72 secs :-) So now that I'm up to speed, I'm trying to grok the d-bus/u

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 02 January 2006 15:42, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > so should we try to compile such a list and advertise it better, > perhaps from the startpage on www.debian.org? http://www.debian.org/devel/join/ seems more suited for that. That whole page could maybe be organized a bit better by separa

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 02 Jan 2006, Alexander Schmehl wrote: > * Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060102 10:21]: > > (No, I don't really think titles will attract most of the productive > > kind contributors to Debian. Sorry.) > > Being one of those who contributed a lot, I disagree a bit. I would > say, that

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Enrico Zini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-01-02 22:26:46]: > On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 10:02:34AM +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > > > there are parts that provide a much easier and smoother entry to > > helping debian. The debian-installer, the inofficial security > > team and debian-edu for example

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Alexander Schmehl
Hi! * Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [060102 10:21]: > (No, I don't really think titles will attract most of the productive > kind contributors to Debian. Sorry.) Being one of those who contributed a lot, I disagree a bit. I would say, that having a title would be a "nice to have": You cou

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Enrico Zini
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 02:53:52PM +0200, Linas Zvirblis wrote: > A hypothetical example: I decide to found a debian-geology team and I am > not a Debian Developer. So what now? Should I help debian-med to become > a DD? But I am not interested in medicine, I am interested in geology. 1) Open

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Enrico Zini
On Mon, Jan 02, 2006 at 10:02:34AM +0100, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > there are parts that provide a much easier and smoother entry to > helping debian. The debian-installer, the inofficial security > team and debian-edu for example are groups that allow even > non-Debian-Developers to get their han

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Zak B. Elep
Hi Margarita! :-) On 1/2/06, Margarita Manterola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You suggest that people keep track of their contributions, everybody > can do that in their personal wiki page (yes, that's what Ubuntu does, > I don't know if it works or not). You could encourage people to do > that.

Re: udev event completion order

2006-01-02 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 07:29:16PM +, Darren Salt wrote: > I'd call that broken, just as I consider udev (076) to be broken given that > it breaks expectations wrt device naming. (Here, it swapped the names of the > DVD drives (drivers are built-in) and sound devices (drivers are modular).) B

Bug#345638: ITP: python-support -- automated rebuilding support for python modules

2006-01-02 Thread Josselin Mouette
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: python-support Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Josselin Mouette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : None yet * License : LGPL Description : automated rebuilding support fo

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Margarita Manterola
On 1/1/06, Joseph Michael Smidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1.)All people psychologically want to feel important and that they are an > official > part of an organization. I feel there should be an official title for all > contributers > so they feel like they are part of the community, not ju

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Linas Zvirblis
Andreas Schuldei wrote: there are parts that provide a much easier and smoother entry to helping debian. The debian-installer, the inofficial security team and debian-edu for example are groups that allow even non-Debian-Developers to get their hands dirty and do real (important, relevant) work

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Wouter Verhelst
Op ma, 02-01-2006 te 11:24 +0100, schreef Andreas Fester: > > (No, I don't really think titles will attract most of the productive > > kind contributors to Debian. Sorry.) > > I agree that "title" might not be appropriate. Thats why I primarily > talked about "stages" (maybe there is a better word

policy on stati/dynamically linked binaries

2006-01-02 Thread A Mennucc
hi does the Debian Policy mandate that binaries should be dynamically linked and not statically linked to their needed libraries ? I thought so but I could not find it; in particular, I looked in section "10.1 Binaries", where it goes at length in talking of the debugging and stripping options,

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Andreas Fester
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > I find your title unambitious and suggest improvements. > > >>- - Having at least one package in the archive: "Debian Maintainer" > > > "Debian Vice President for Packaging Foo" which could be subdivided into "Junior Vice President" (aka co-main

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Lars Wirzenius
ma, 2006-01-02 kello 09:03 +0100, Andreas Fester kirjoitti: > You are already a Maintainer as soon as you have a package > in the archive. Speaking of an "official title" as you suggested, > maybe something like the following stages could be reasonable: I find your title unambitious and suggest im

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Linas Zvirblis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-01-02 01:43:47]: > There are a lot of people out there that are willing to help Debian, but > "Help Debian" does look a bit like a horror detective story. > > I like the idea of an official title for contributers, but I am not so > keen on I-did-this-a

Re: How to Increase Contributions from Volunteers

2006-01-02 Thread Andreas Fester
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Joseph, I had similar thoughts recently, so I enjoyed your mail. Just some short comments: Some of the things you mentioned are already available, even if you are not an official developer. For example, - - your packages are listed at http://qa.debia

Re: Experiment: poll on "switching to vim-tiny for standard vi?"

2006-01-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Sorry for the delay in the reply, house moving ... On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 03:24:34PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > Sorry, no insinuation intended, although I see, in retrospect, how it > can be read that way; my apologies. I just used "Stefano?" to draw your > attention and ask for your comment